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Title: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: davids3511 on July 01, 2009, 11:51:26 pm
You've guessed it, I've been leafletting again.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: Tosh on July 01, 2009, 11:57:39 pm
 ;D

I take it that this is a threat, probably delivered over the telephone?

I think it would be time to phone the police if you've not already done so.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: mr D on July 02, 2009, 12:03:47 am
whats this?????
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: alanwilson on July 02, 2009, 12:29:48 am
you leafletting in Afghanistan again??

Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: pingu on July 02, 2009, 07:34:09 am
Dave...do as per Tosh's advice then at least there is a log number incase you do find this fool.

Cheers
Dave.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on July 02, 2009, 09:22:54 am
Yeah I'd make a call to the police too. Guessing it was off a witheld number
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: GWCS on July 02, 2009, 09:32:45 am
can someone explain to me what reporting it to the police will do if you have no details or any idea who it was?

Ive no experience with this type of thing.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: drwindows on July 02, 2009, 11:51:02 am
Threats to kill is a criminal offense, they will contact the phone company and get the details of the caller.  Maybe even a recording of the phone call.  Then they'll prosecute him/her.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 02, 2009, 12:04:21 pm
BT can trace withheld numbers that are being called from this country, they cant trace calls coming from overseas. right down the area that you dropped leaflets off and that will be a start for the police. also if they used a mobile phone the network operator can find out which mast it was coming from at that time. its called "pinging"
I would certainly report the offence to the police though, as if anything happens the police have the initial report to strengthen any case.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 02, 2009, 12:07:10 pm
drwindows they cant get a recording of the call!
becuase to have a recording of a phone call without the consent of either party, they would need a court order to "tap" the phone. this has only been used in a few cases.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: davids3511 on July 02, 2009, 08:13:35 pm
I had this before and the police did bot bugger all. The didn't even log it as a crime.

I spoke to the guy last night at 10pm. At 11.30 he rang again but I missed the call. I rang it back this morning and spoke to a different guy who said he had lent the phone to his mate in the pub last night.

I have the number, they didn't even bother to hide it.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: davids3511 on July 02, 2009, 08:38:45 pm
I'd love to but I don't want to escalate the problem right now.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: Niall McAllister on July 02, 2009, 08:41:40 pm
Whats the number, we can all call him up and tell him we 'gonna pop a cap in his ass'  ;D

it's always the donkey that pays the price  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: mr D on July 02, 2009, 08:51:34 pm
david, where are you based? you in my neck of the woods aint you?
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: wozzza007 on July 02, 2009, 10:18:48 pm
the police will have a way of getting the number. BT will have a log system even tho it comes up at your end of the phone as no number. My daughter had a few prank calls and we had it reported and checked, police found out who it was in a matter of a day.

the threats you are getting sould not be going on, you have a right to earn money without threats
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: seandyer2003 on July 02, 2009, 10:24:36 pm
david, where are you based? you in my neck of the woods aint you?


Stockport he is i think ??

I wouldnt listen its a ridiculous thing to say, a window cleaner with a gun?? come on, would he really be cleaning windows if he owns a gun lol

maybe its an air rifle - scary :)
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: mr D on July 02, 2009, 10:28:51 pm
david, where are you based? you in my neck of the woods aint you?


Stockport he is i think ??

I wouldnt listen its a ridiculous thing to say, a window cleaner with a gun?? come on, would he really be cleaning windows if he owns a gun lol

maybe its an air rifle - scary :)


lol dont you belive it!

my old man has to barrettes

but your right. this fellas just being a bell end.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: seandyer2003 on July 02, 2009, 10:34:33 pm
david, where are you based? you in my neck of the woods aint you?


Stockport he is i think ??

I wouldnt listen its a ridiculous thing to say, a window cleaner with a gun?? come on, would he really be cleaning windows if he owns a gun lol

maybe its an air rifle - scary :)


lol dont you belive it!

my old man has to barrettes

but your right. this fellas just being a bell end.


Ive got a paint ball gun lol
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: ronnie paton on July 02, 2009, 11:14:45 pm
some window cleaners are fronts for bigger crimanl activety, me being me i would confront them head on but maybe not clever, if some one was going to do something beacause your on "his patch" he wouldnt tell you!
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: seandyer2003 on July 02, 2009, 11:34:42 pm
some window cleaners are fronts for bigger crimanl activety, me being me i would confront them head on but maybe not clever, if some one was going to do something beacause your on "his patch" he wouldnt tell you!

Do you reckon?? I wouldnt see that someone would window clean if they were making easy money - its too much like hard work lol

:)

But id flippin go up 2 em too
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: davids3511 on July 02, 2009, 11:50:43 pm
I'm based in Altrinham but the hassle started when I branched out into neighbouring Sale. I was warned about these guys, apparantly they scared another window cleaner off a while ago.

The funny bit is that they called me a 'skinny little bas***d' and commented that they knew I was on my own, so just bully boys really. I suspect someone described my leafletter to them. I am 6' 2" an 20 stone (some flab now muscle since taking up window cleaning). People who know me are laughing at the idea of them tackling me thinking I was a little skinny fella.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: davids3511 on July 02, 2009, 11:51:41 pm
david, where are you based? you in my neck of the woods aint you?

Altrincham, Cheshire. A bit away from you I think.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: davids3511 on July 02, 2009, 11:53:32 pm
david, where are you based? you in my neck of the woods aint you?


Stockport he is i think ??

I wouldnt listen its a ridiculous thing to say, a window cleaner with a gun?? come on, would he really be cleaning windows if he owns a gun lol

maybe its an air rifle - scary :)

I kinda look at it like that too. If they were that violent they would be drug dealers or loan sharks, not grafting for a living cleaning windows.

I just laughted at them and said 'you must be crap if you are so worried'.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: ronnie paton on July 03, 2009, 12:10:47 am
what i mean is people have to launder there money so a cash business and they get some mug to do it, these people have all types of business to hide there crime
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on July 03, 2009, 12:15:03 am
Some drug dealers use window cleaning and other manual labour jobs to justify their income.
theres one guy in Leicester who does this, the police now but cant prove a thing.
he's self employed, so he can put whatever he feels like through the books whether its from window cleaing or not.
so in short they are using window cleaning to launder the money they take through drugs.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: leapstallbuildings on July 03, 2009, 06:06:14 am
I had this before and the police did bot bugger all. The didn't even log it as a crime.

I spoke to the guy last night at 10pm. At 11.30 he rang again but I missed the call. I rang it back this morning and spoke to a different guy who said he had lent the phone to his mate in the pub last night.

I have the number, they didn't even bother to hide it.

Try getting a crime number from them to ensure it is logged.  If the copper on the front desk won't log it, (politely) say that you wish to report this crime to someone of higher rank.  If the copper on the desk still won't do anything, write in with your report to someone of higher rank, expressing the fact that you are prepared to go to someone even higher if the crime is not logged.  I'm sure that many coppers are OK but unfortunately, some of them can't be bothered with the paperwork unless there is a good chance of nicking someone.
Although a threat to kill in anger is very rarely acted upon, it is regarded as a serious offence (unless the copper is the gun holder in which case they are allowed to shoot a person with table leg in a bag and pull naked a unarmed man out of bed and kill him with, apparently, the full backing of the state).
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: leapstallbuildings on July 03, 2009, 06:09:20 am
the police will have a way of getting the number. BT will have a log system even tho it comes up at your end of the phone as no number. My daughter had a few prank calls and we had it reported and checked, police found out who it was in a matter of a day.

the threats you are getting sould not be going on, you have a right to earn money without threats

Can they do that these days?  I know they can get withheld numbers if they are logging a line but didn't realise that they could get a number retrospectively.
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: seandyer2003 on July 03, 2009, 07:33:04 am
Sale?
i get lots of calls to work there, so they must be pants, just go and undercut all their work and then never do it hahahaha that s what id do :)
Title: Re: "You're gonna get a bullet in the back of your head"
Post by: weetot on July 03, 2009, 11:38:39 am
Whats the number, we can all call him up and tell him we 'gonna pop a cap in his ass'  ;D
;D ;D ;D