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Title: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: CarPete Cleaning on July 01, 2009, 05:07:19 pm
Hi, I currently run a Powr-Flite Perfectheat, which is a great machine - very happy with it.  But it is too large and heavy to take upstairs when cleaning flats (with no lift), nursing homes, small hotels etc.
I would like to source a smaller light-weight machine that can be used in these situations and also as a backup machine.  I have been considering the Prochem Galaxy, but wonder if the tank capacity maybe a bit on the small side.  I have also started looking at the Ashby Sensei machine, which seems to fit the bill and also has a heater option (handy when there is no hot water!).
I would be interested to hear comments on the Sensei and any advice regarding alternative machines I should consider.
Thanks in advance - Pete
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: Darren O on July 01, 2009, 05:53:36 pm
Always use my Powermax when doing flats as its light as a feather and easy to bounce up and down stairs had mine for nearly 5 years now and its still going strong.
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: from edge2edge on July 01, 2009, 06:34:23 pm
Pete the sensei can have the vac booster fitted as well so it sucks good too.Regards Alan(swindon)
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: CarPete Cleaning on July 01, 2009, 07:24:17 pm
Hi Darren, who makes the powermax ?
cheers,
Pete
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: Joe H on July 01, 2009, 07:32:43 pm
Prochem

Do Powerflite not make a compact machine - thought I saw one at a show 12 months ago or so.
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: absolutecleaning on July 01, 2009, 08:18:04 pm
They do do a smaller version but its still not as lightweight as what Pete will be looking for.
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on July 01, 2009, 08:51:29 pm
Have you got a link? looking for that elusive porti still.

Shaun
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: absolutecleaning on July 01, 2009, 10:05:11 pm
http://www.cleansmartsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/PowrFlite_Perfect_Heat_PFX_1085.html
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: Darren O on July 01, 2009, 10:25:29 pm
56kg i thought we were talking light weight here the powermax is only 38kg.
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: Doctor Carpet (Ret'd) on July 01, 2009, 10:54:13 pm
Ninja with built in tank heater and in-line heater; a little over 11 stone-70kg?

I don't have a problem humping that up staircases (keeps me fit, weight down blah,blah) or do you lot think I'm a posing weight-lifter (talking out of my hose?) ;).........Results fantastic

(Have to say I prefer not to do so and if I can use extension hoses I will.)
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: JandS on July 02, 2009, 02:51:20 pm
Dr Carpet
 
75kg??   Think they are about 45kg with the twin vacs etc.

John
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: Doctor Carpet (Ret'd) on July 02, 2009, 05:44:13 pm
John yes 45 kg but with built -in heater and in-line heater it's 70 kg!!
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: dave123 on July 02, 2009, 08:21:24 pm
Darren 38 kg is approximately 5 stone which ain't light by any means .Whereas the sensei is only 25 kg.which is just over 3 stone
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: Darren O on July 02, 2009, 08:42:31 pm
If you cant handle a 38kg machine i think carpet cleaning is the wrong job for you try lifting a Hydramaster Raptor up 4 flights of stairs now thats what i would call heavy.
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: CarPete Cleaning on July 03, 2009, 07:13:50 am
Thanks fpr all the comments and info guys....but I would love to hear from anyone who actually uses a Sensei??

Cheers,
Pete
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: dave123 on July 03, 2009, 07:59:37 am
Darren I do everday and have been for the last ten years,but then again I am pushing 60,but we were talking light machines and the sensei fits the bill . ;D
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: Darren O on July 03, 2009, 09:10:40 am
The Sensei only comes with one vac as standard you would then have to add a vac booster thats another thing to carry but it does look ok how much are they couldnt see a price.
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: kinder clean on July 03, 2009, 01:38:18 pm
Powrflite do small (er) box style cleaners, they used to be a regular on the amtech auctions about 12 months ago, not sure if they still stock any now.

To see the full range follow link:          http://     www.powrflite.com/istore/boxextract.asp?dept=10051

Paul
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: homenclean on July 04, 2009, 11:24:47 am
Probably not yhe most popular machines on here but have you considered the craftex machines the grace and sabrina maxi. both split into 2 sections for ease of carrying.

The sabrina is the smaller aound 30l clean water but perfectly adequate to undertake any domestic job. I know of one carpet cleaner who uses this above his bigger machine simply because of its ease of use. As i understand they have know fitted it with a large 3 stage vac and although single vac the power is pretty good.

The last time i checked they were under £1000 to buy.
The only down side is that they require a heat and run as there is no built in heater option, but then again in most of the enviroments you have described hot water will probably be available.


john
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: robert meldrum on July 04, 2009, 04:11:28 pm
Darren

Why would you need a vac booster for the Sensei ?

There are many machines which give excellent results on a single 2 stage vac including CFR's
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: Darren O on July 04, 2009, 04:52:30 pm
CFR  tools are different but i wouldnt buy a porty that has a 135psi pump and only one vac a spotting machine is fine with one vac but for carpets i would want at least two.
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: robert meldrum on July 04, 2009, 07:44:34 pm
Presume you've never used either a Ninja or a CFR machine, both and I'm sure many others with similar pumps / vacs are capable of anything you achieve with whatever you use.

To regard them as spotters is unbelievably naive and lacking in knowledge or experience.

Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: Darren O on July 04, 2009, 08:30:27 pm
First of all i never said a ninja was a spotting machine and i have used one a few times when i was talking about spotting machines i was meaning a Prochem Bravo or Spot Pro or similar they have one vac and are ok for spotting.Dont see the point of spending nearly a grand on a machine that has only one vac anybody can clean a carpet with one vac but why make things harder for yourself.When it comes to experience nobody can come close to you as you think your a total smart arse thats why you keep posting under different names like carpet guy,you will start an arguement make a tit of yourself and then come back and post under a different name your an idiot.
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: robert meldrum on July 04, 2009, 10:26:03 pm
Ahhh Darren

Yes I have used more than one name most recently to satisfy the requests of other posters who wanted to know who they were talking to and previously because you have to re register if you forget your log in details after an absence of a while.
If a post suggests a machine with a single vac and / or 135 psi is only usefull for spotting it deserves a reply a reply.............Why ?
Because there are hundreds of hard working people out there using such machines every day and may be insulted by your comments.
Personally I don't give a monkey's about your comments but don't insult other people who use what to you, are underpowered machines. Compared to some machines they ARE underpowered, but they can and do achieve acceptable results for operators who don't mind having to break sweat.
There are MANY lower than 135 psi and single vac machines which are still being sold and used for domestic carpet cleaning because they get acceptable results.
Hope you're machine is behaving better these days





Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: Darren O on July 04, 2009, 11:18:53 pm
There you go again more nonsense now iam insulting carpet cleaners who use 1 vac machines times have changed for the better we all no about the days of 60psi pumps and 1 vac as standard its only MY opinion i wouldnt spend a grand or more on a machine with one vac  is that ok for you Robert,rob m,therapist,carpet guy or what ever your calling yourself now.
Title: Re: Lightweight Backup Porty
Post by: Darren O on July 04, 2009, 11:39:08 pm
Another thing 135psi is more than enough to clean a carpet and ive been using less than that for the last fortnight with my powermax with great results however i wouldnt be happy using 135psi with only one vac there has been ocasions when one of my vacs has died on a job and had to finish with only one vac running and thought the results were poor.