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Title: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 24, 2009, 08:34:57 pm
I've just been asked to remove some chewing gum along with a few other things. I can get hold of a steamer, but how do I go about pricing the job?
I need to get thequote in soonish.

Any ideas?
price per metre?

Thanks guys

Richy
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 24, 2009, 09:51:19 pm
Anyone?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: BDCS on June 24, 2009, 10:25:31 pm
I count the number of pieces in 3 seperate mtr square areas to give the average number of pieces per square mtr, times that by the total area to give the total pieces. The time taken by my osprey is about 12 - 15 secs so you times that by the total area to give the time for the job - times that by your rate
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 24, 2009, 11:49:05 pm
ok so 12- 15 seconds per piece of gum eh?
How about chemicals?how much will i need per metre and how much are they?

I use a cold pressure washer at the mo for my usual stuff, but i asume i will need a steam cleaner, is that right?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: BDCS on June 25, 2009, 08:44:26 am
I'm on cold but to do gum you need heat - a hot box is about £k. I have an old osprey m/c with the chemical injection which can be used on a generator with punters about
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 25, 2009, 05:58:40 pm
Been to look at it and it is bad chewing gummed!
We're looking at 40 pieces per metre on average.
So 15 secs per piece = 1 metre every 10 mins - 6 metres per hour

ive got about 1,000 m2 to clean. - so that will be 166 hours! What is a fair amount to charge for this? £20 or £50. I dont want to sell myself short incase it takes longer than i thought
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: drive surgeon on June 25, 2009, 06:09:38 pm
£2.00 - £2.50 a sq metre according to trevor perry.
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 25, 2009, 06:24:43 pm
thats cheap isnt it?
that will work out at £12 an hour
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Nathanael Jones on June 25, 2009, 06:59:10 pm
£35 - £40 per hour + Vat minimum for this kind of work. You've fuel & maintenance costs on top of your normal expenses remember.
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 25, 2009, 07:01:34 pm
thats better! thats what i was thinking!
If we're talking of about 40 pieces per metre, how many metres would you be able to do in one hour?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 25, 2009, 08:58:21 pm
would 6 metres an hour be about right?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: drive surgeon on June 25, 2009, 10:38:24 pm
well most people charge around 40 to 50 quid an hour for just jet washing so would it not be more for gum removal?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 25, 2009, 11:15:36 pm
i was just wondering if 6 metres an hour would be concidered slow?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: BDCS on June 26, 2009, 01:53:32 am
If its that bad I would'nt look at doing it with the steamer but it depends if you can shut areas down, water supply, drainage etc. You need to employ someone thats keen but with a very small mind
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Rob_Mac on June 26, 2009, 07:22:43 am
Richy - Leeksons

Sub it. I've got a twin operator set up and a single operator unit. If you want to call me on 07919 425664. We could do it together and share the dosh!!

Rob ;D
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 26, 2009, 08:58:44 am
Ive got a very nice friend whos letting me use his hot washer for next to nothing. So i'll be using that. the chewing gum is on tarmac(good condition) so I have been told steam is not a good idea.
I will have someone with me scraping, sweeping and bagging the gum. Also, I will be doing a couple of night shifts to get the main areas done when there will be noone around and coning off other areas in the day - this is no problem.

M-Clean - Is it likely to do 6 metres an hour or 16 metres an hour with this set up?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: trevor perry on June 26, 2009, 09:19:47 am
on tarmac you need to turn the pressure right down but still have plenty of heat if i was you i would tell them you will do a trial area then work your price out from the time it takes you, depending on surface i can remove between 15 to 25 peices of gum a minute with my set up but if your going to tackle it with a steamer then you willbe lucky to be doing 6 pieces a minute.
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 26, 2009, 09:28:01 am
on tarmac you need to turn the pressure right down but still have plenty of heat if i was you i would tell them you will do a trial area then work your price out from the time it takes you, depending on surface i can remove between 15 to 25 peices of gum a minute with my set up but if your going to tackle it with a steamer then you willbe lucky to be doing 6 pieces a minute.
Do you use a hot box and pressure washer?

I have to submit my quote this afternoon. They only gave me one day to price it all!
I dont want to sell myself short, but I would like to get the job.
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: trevor perry on June 26, 2009, 09:31:56 am
on tarmac you need to turn the pressure right down but still have plenty of heat if i was you i would tell them you will do a trial area then work your price out from the time it takes you, depending on surface i can remove between 15 to 25 peices of gum a minute with my set up but if your going to tackle it with a steamer then you willbe lucky to be doing 6 pieces a minute.
Do you use a hot box and pressure washer?

I have to submit my quote this afternoon. They only gave me one day to price it all!
I dont want to sell myself short, but I would like to get the job.

no i dont use a hotbox but they do work well, mine is a thermic 17 trailer mounted their is a picture of it on my website
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 26, 2009, 09:45:36 am
but it works in the same way eh?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: trevor perry on June 26, 2009, 09:50:13 am
but it works in the same way eh?
very simalar but much easier to control heat and pressure more precisely.
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: drive surgeon on June 26, 2009, 12:11:30 pm
doesnt heat melt the tarmac trev?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: drive surgeon on June 26, 2009, 06:22:37 pm
trev what make is your hot washer it looks ok?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: trevor perry on June 26, 2009, 07:01:24 pm
its a lavorwash thermic 17
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: drive surgeon on June 26, 2009, 07:22:42 pm
how much?  does it need a seperate generator?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Seers on June 27, 2009, 09:16:14 am
Hi Richy,

If you want me to have a look at the job for some advice with you, give me a ring 07900 800 315.

We've got hot washers and dedicated chewing gum steamers available too, no probs.

Cheers,

Huw.
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: drive surgeon on June 27, 2009, 09:57:45 am
what pressure washers do you use seerclean?  i love your website.  ;)
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Seers on June 27, 2009, 10:05:50 am
Hi,

Our main one at the moment is a Karcher HDS 13/24 PE Cage. Diesel burner, petrol engine. Never let us down and been a great step up from smaller portable machines.

Thought there was a pic on the website, will have to update.

Cheers, drive surgeon, spent a lot of time on it over the years, but I still need to add lots more to some unfinished pages. We also have about fifty smaller sites floating around the net too!


Cheers,

Huw
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: drive surgeon on June 27, 2009, 10:10:15 am
is that a hot washer?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Seers on June 27, 2009, 10:17:03 am
yes
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: drive surgeon on June 27, 2009, 10:18:33 am
thanks seerclean just out of interest how much did you pay>
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 27, 2009, 11:00:18 am
Hi Huw,
Cheers,

Have you been asked to quote for a similar job? To be carried out in August?

My friend owns SE Cleaning Services and does a lot with Crystal Clear. He reccommended that I use a hot washer instead of his steamer as it is all on tarmac.
Would you agree with that?
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Seers on June 27, 2009, 02:38:57 pm
Hi richy,

I don't think we're quoting on that as far as I know. Without seeing it its hard to price really.

Cheers,

Huw
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: Richy L on June 27, 2009, 05:29:41 pm
Ive submitted my price now. So it's just wait and see.
Let's hope I get it! :)
Title: Re: CHewing gum
Post by: drive surgeon on June 27, 2009, 09:15:22 pm
good luck richy!! ;)