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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: darren73 on June 20, 2009, 08:27:42 pm
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could someone tell me what way an r/o is used to produce fishtank water
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could someone tell me what way an r/o is used to produce fishtank water
if your wanting it for a fish tank you need a nitrate filter, ros take stuff out of the water, you will still need a declorinator ounless you have them as prefilters.
My Dad owes an aquatics shop
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Ian you got that slightly wrong ;D You are quite right though that Ro takes too much out out of the water and minerals need to be added before adding it to an aquarium.
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could someone tell me what way an r/o is used to produce fishtank water
if your wanting it for a fish tank you need a nitrate filter, ros take stuff out of the water, you will still need a declorinator ounless you have them as prefilters.
My Dad owes an aquatics shop
how much
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Oops I may be mistaken ::) lol that's why my fish died.
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Nitrate is in the water but turns to nitrite after the tank is polluted, nitrite being lethal in high density to fish, a mature tank will have organisms that will stop the cycle though.
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could someone tell me what way an r/o is used to produce fishtank water
if your wanting it for a fish tank you need a nitrate filter, ros take stuff out of the water, you will still need a declorinator ounless you have them as prefilters.
My Dad owes an aquatics shop
Unless I have read this wrong, I think you'e mistaken Ian. An RO unit removes nitrate from tap-water.
Nitrate is in the water but turns to nitrite after the tank is polluted, nitrite being lethal in high density to fish, a mature tank will have organisms that will stop the cycle though.
Wrong............a mature tank does NOT have organisms that stop the cycle....a mature tank has a healthy population of nitrfiying bacteria that allow the nitrogen cycle to go through its natural stages, eventually so that nitrate is produced (being the least toxic). This is removed by water changes or de-nitrifying bacteria (bacteria that thrive in areas of water with a low oxygen content, such as deep-sand bed filters and live rock)
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could someone tell me what way an r/o is used to produce fishtank water
An RO unit produces fish-tank water in exactly the same way as we produce it for cleaning windows.
The final product needs minerals and dechlorinators added to it for fish to be able to survive and thrive in it if its for fresh water.
If its for marine fish/corals etc, just add the salt that is used in marine fish keeping; oxygenate it with a circulation pump to drive off the carbon dioxide, heat to 26°C then add to tank.
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well I was nearly right then ;D there is nitrate in tap water though isn't there? and chlorine will evaporate out of the water within 24 hours?
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it was about 15 years ago my dad had this gadget so could be mistaken, I swear is was to remove what I said though.
clorine is a big killer of fish and that need to be taken away, hard fish can take it the others can and will die should this not be removed.
Rain water is a good option, never heard that the water needs minerals put back in it after ro, ph buffers maybe, and declorinator, loads of poitions you can buy, I can also supply them mail order
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well I was nearly right then ;D there is nitrate in tap water though isn't there?
There is, it varies depending on where you are in the country, how much wash-off there is from local farmland (fertiliser is high in nitrates, particularly that used on grassland) is one factor that affects it, also how good and efficient your local water supplier is too has a high determining factor on NO3 levels.
Round here, hampshire the tap water NO3 is about 25 ppm.
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hey I'm south of the Sussex downs so we get it all in our water.
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A few bits of my marine tank.
(http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/DSCF0718.jpg)
(http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/DSCF0716.jpg)
(http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/DSCF0733.jpg)
(http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q4/DSCF0721.jpg)
(http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2006Q1/DSCF03610.JPG)
I just ordered a load of glass this week to the tune of £1,000 for a new tank.
Thats just for the glass, its not even a tank for that money ;D
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I used to have to clean out the lion fish tank in my dads shop, and Excuse the spelling) porcupine puffers oh I used to brick it every time.
pp I though were great the lions a nightmare
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Ian I think today's RO,S take anything like chlorine out, don't quote me though I'm having a bad day and getting it all wrong today ;D ;D ;D
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I dont know as not tested it, but when I viist I should take a bottle and put it through the tests, could be on a winner up here ;D
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Looks great Matt, I have 1 marine tank and the other main tank was of African lake cichlids until I knocked the stat up by accident and boiled them all, was gutted had 3 generations of breeding wiped out only 4 fish survived :'(
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Whoops, easy done actually.
I came in yesterday and said to my missus 'Whats that smell?' Eventually wwe found it was the ignitor for the flourescent tube above the tank, was melting.
Whoops again!!
These things happen easy.
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have to say Matt them pics are great, so relaxing looking at a good marine tank, I love reef still to set this up
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I like those top shots. The macro images of an Acropora coral.
I have just this week ordered the glass to build another tank at home. It'll have a total capacity of about 2,000 litres all told, including sump, circulation tanks and main viewing tank. The main tank will be viewed as if it were a picture on the wall in the kitchen although it'll actually be housed in a room built as a self-purpose fish room.
This is the stand for it
(http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2008Q4/DSCF0398.jpg)
Sure you get the idea from the plans we had drawn up.
(http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploads/extension%20plans.jpg)
(http://www.muzzys-reef.co.uk/new_tank_build/13.jpg)
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is that the height of the tank ? the view ?
I would ove one in my office as very relaxing
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The tank'll be 5' from front to back, 4' across and 2.5' high.
Im thinking the 5' from front to back will make it quite impressive, a real sense of depth and distance.
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should look very good, what bribe did you have to give the wife ?
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should look very good, what bribe did you have to give the wife ?
Tell ya what mate.....this tank is going in the extension that she paid for out of her own pocket, after selling her house she had before we met, AND (get this!!) she cleared my mortgage too.
WHAT A STAR!!
Hey, I take her on holiday 3 times a year ;) course Im worth it ;D
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should look very good, what bribe did you have to give the wife ?
Tell ya what mate.....this tank is going in the extension that she paid for out of her own pocket, after selling her house she had before we met, AND (get this!!) she cleared my mortgage too.
WHAT A STAR!!
Hey, I take her on holiday 3 times a year ;) course Im worth it ;D
lol, is your nickname lucky ?
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should look very good, what bribe did you have to give the wife ?
Tell ya what mate.....this tank is going in the extension that she paid for out of her own pocket, after selling her house she had before we met, AND (get this!!) she cleared my mortgage too.
WHAT A STAR!!
Hey, I take her on holiday 3 times a year ;) course Im worth it ;D
lol, is your nickname lucky ?
I think it is, others would disagree :D
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Matt you could have said you knew about fish.My sons nine and i killed all the fish we bought with ro water.
I did tell the shop and they said fine, purer the better.Waited a week, bought fish, fish all died.
shop tested water, made me refill with tap, this is week two, last week water failed test. This morning we go again to test water and buy fish. He wants three mickey mouse and two of the other sort.(litttle tough ones)
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Matt you could have said you knew about fish.
Clive I know about most things :D
Clive, you need to read up on fish-keeping if you are going to keep fish.
Its cruel and unethical to try to keep fish without first gaining some sort of background material on their needs.
Go here if they are cold water or tropical
http://www.fishforums.net/
Did you local fish shop not tell you about this?
http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=277264
Go here if the fish are marine
http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/
As for the shops....they'll sell you anything to get a sale and they normally employ dunderheads, so unbiased information and knowledge isnt their greatest asset.
Ask those with no alterior motive (other fish keepers on forums)
Id say your fish died because they were put in pure RO water and it hadnt been reconstituted back to some sort of state suitable for fish to thrive in. Bit like expecting us to thrive in a place like Chernobyl really.
Matt