Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ftp on June 18, 2009, 05:36:21 pm
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Does my head in, it really does ???
Some time ago I was moaning about how poor the results are at times.
Today I had the worst possible clean known to man - large victorian house inside and out with oxidised aluminium frames. This property hasn't been cleaned for at least nine years and probably many many more, it was in a state and a half. Frames were filthy, above frames were minging.
I thought I'd use my superlight flocked brush and give it the once over cleaning all the crud from everywhere, do the insides then attack it again with the single trim maybe twice more.
Start to clean the insides and hardly a spot or a run anywhere ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Several areas that had been missed though especially in the corners but the glass generally was very good. Does my head in.
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quit yer moanin!
;D
some folk are never happy! :-\
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So what exectly is it you're complaining about? Did they complain or what? :)
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Because normally I'm cleaning property thats been cleaned by me for the last two years. I do a thorough job and rinse off the glass - only to find spots and runs.
This time I did a filthy clean in and out the muck, never lifting the brush with terrible frames and hardy a spot or a run. ???
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never hear the trad guys moaning lol
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The power of the Gardiners Flocked!!
;D
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just the other day I cleaned a 2 bed terraced in exactly the same time as a 4 bed detached.
I had no interuptions on either job. just frustrating.
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FTP just face it...you're not worthy to be a wfp'er...you should hang your pole up in disgrace and acknowledge you would be better cleaning windows with the top of your head just like Ian Lancaster.
Question to other wfp'ers...should we blackball FTP from our club?
Dave ;D ;D
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I think he should just stick to cleaning round windows ;D
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there just seems to be so much scope for error with window cleaning. On some windows u spend ages scrubbing and rinising and then there are runs everywhere. other windows you could throw the water at it and they will come up perfect.
doing my head in right now.
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I suppose eventually we will lose the customers who's windows streak no matter how hard you rinse, and be left with the sparkly windowed gems! (I like to think that will happen anyway :-\)
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Filthy glass often does come up perfect first go, I have often wondered if the dirt acts as an abrasive and actually aids cleaning.
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I might start putting soil in my water tank ;)
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there just seems to be so much scope for error with window cleaning. On some windows u spend ages scrubbing and rinising and then there are runs everywhere. other windows you could throw the water at it and they will come up perfect.
doing my head in right now.
Runs come from somewhere, find where they come from and then post back for advice, or figure it out for yourself.
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well i did a house today with wooden framed windows, and the had really bad runs down them. i scubbed the frames well, it was as if someting was leaching out from the wood.
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well i did a house today with wooden framed windows, and the had really bad runs down them. i scubbed the frames well, it was as if someting was leaching out from the wood.
If you are talking about the real untreated wooden frame windows, they usually do not have proper gaskets. Usually there is a gap between the glass even where years of detergent builds up, it bubbles even on the third clean. I now skip the wooden frames all together and focus on the glass. If the water beads up around the top edge of the window, it still draws that soap and dirt out, leaving spots. Either really focus on flushing everything out for the next couple of cleans, with a higher flow rate, or use a microfibre on the top edge after rinsing.
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Eh? Why not trad them if you have to resort to a microfibre.
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yeh trade them ;D
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i'll trade you! ;D
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Some water based wood stains leach off wooden frames to give that detergent smear appearance (well, I read that on here) it makes sense if you are still getting the detergent appearance after 6 months or so.
Runs therefore arent always fairy, sometimes theyre wood stain.
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Eh? Why not trad them if you have to resort to a microfibre.
It's just a quick wipe over the very top, plus getting two sets of tools out is a hassle, not to mention having to fill your bucket etc. Just wastes time.
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IMO this whole "detergent" thing is dreamed up theoretical nonesense which has snowballed out of all controll from this forum!
Any detergent will clean off right away & is not the cause of problems regarding spotting, streaks etc.
I have many situations on my round where I may trad one month & wfp the next! Yep, no "detergent" probs what so ever. Even when I used to use fairy!
There could be many factors- buid up of crap in seal, oxidised paint/stain/varnish/aluminium/pvc etc. A cut/tear/joint in the seal which holds dirt. If you clean the top frame it could be vents but the frame at some point will meet mortar/brick or stone, this will always have dirt on it just ready to mix with your pure & run down the glass! Unintentional maybe, you've flicked water above the frame with your brush? Either way, I would forget about detergent, your barking up the wrong tree & doing yourself no favours with your diagnostics of the real problem! ;)
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Even though those are legitimate issues you come across, I don't think there is no any other explanation for it, when you get quite a lot of bubbles on the glass.
I do agree with you to an extent, only on untreated wood with no gasket I seem to get it, I almost never get it on other windows. Never had it when I switched from Squeegee off to wfp either.
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Even though those are legitimate issues you come across, I don't think there is no any other explanation for it, when you get quite a lot of bubbles on the glass.
I do agree with you to an extent, only on untreated wood with no gasket I seem to get it, I almost never get it on other windows. Never had it when I switched from Squeegee off to wfp either.
I get this bubbling on two hotel windows, I've cleaned them twice a month for the last two years wfp. It was closed for 18 month prior to that.
The last time that glass could have possibly been traded was 3.5 years ago. They have been cleaned 48 times each wfp, they bubble every time but come up perfect!
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Even though those are legitimate issues you come across, I don't think there is no any other explanation for it, when you get quite a lot of bubbles on the glass.
I do agree with you to an extent, only on untreated wood with no gasket I seem to get it, I almost never get it on other windows. Never had it when I switched from Squeegee off to wfp either.
I get this bubbling on two hotel windows, I've cleaned them twice a month for the last two years wfp. It was closed for 18 month prior to that.
The last time that glass could have possibly been traded was 3.5 years ago. They have been cleaned 48 times each wfp, they bubble every time but come up perfect!
That's strange, I wonder what causes the bubbles then. 48 cleans and it keeps doing that. What do you think is causing those bubbles? Good to know they come up well.
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Even though those are legitimate issues you come across, I don't think there is no any other explanation for it, when you get quite a lot of bubbles on the glass.
I do agree with you to an extent, only on untreated wood with no gasket I seem to get it, I almost never get it on other windows. Never had it when I switched from Squeegee off to wfp either.
I get this bubbling on two hotel windows, I've cleaned them twice a month for the last two years wfp. It was closed for 18 month prior to that.
The last time that glass could have possibly been traded was 3.5 years ago. They have been cleaned 48 times each wfp, they bubble every time but come up perfect!
That's strange, I wonder what causes the bubbles then. 48 cleans and it keeps doing that. What do you think is causing those bubbles? Good to know they come up well.
Haven't a clue, I reckon I've about another 6 windows that do the same. Maybe it's the surface of the glass that lends itself to oxygenating the water?
can you give some input to my other post Tim?
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Even though those are legitimate issues you come across, I don't think there is no any other explanation for it, when you get quite a lot of bubbles on the glass.
I do agree with you to an extent, only on untreated wood with no gasket I seem to get it, I almost never get it on other windows. Never had it when I switched from Squeegee off to wfp either.
I get this bubbling on two hotel windows, I've cleaned them twice a month for the last two years wfp. It was closed for 18 month prior to that.
The last time that glass could have possibly been traded was 3.5 years ago. They have been cleaned 48 times each wfp, they bubble every time but come up perfect!
That's strange, I wonder what causes the bubbles then. 48 cleans and it keeps doing that. What do you think is causing those bubbles? Good to know they come up well.
Haven't a clue, I reckon I've about another 6 windows that do the same. Maybe it's the surface of the glass that lends itself to oxygenating the water?
can you give some input to my other post Tim?
You mean the one with the different causes to bad results? It's a bit difficult to help someone unless I see a picture of the exact window and frame I'm afraid.
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Even though those are legitimate issues you come across, I don't think there is no any other explanation for it, when you get quite a lot of bubbles on the glass.
I do agree with you to an extent, only on untreated wood with no gasket I seem to get it, I almost never get it on other windows. Never had it when I switched from Squeegee off to wfp either.
I get this bubbling on two hotel windows, I've cleaned them twice a month for the last two years wfp. It was closed for 18 month prior to that.
The last time that glass could have possibly been traded was 3.5 years ago. They have been cleaned 48 times each wfp, they bubble every time but come up perfect!
That's strange, I wonder what causes the bubbles then. 48 cleans and it keeps doing that. What do you think is causing those bubbles? Good to know they come up well.
Haven't a clue, I reckon I've about another 6 windows that do the same. Maybe it's the surface of the glass that lends itself to oxygenating the water?
can you give some input to my other post Tim?
You mean the one with the different causes to bad results? It's a bit difficult to help someone unless I see a picture of the exact window and frame I'm afraid.
No, the 100psi pump & digi varistream post
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Ah you meant topic, instead of post. Okay, I will check it out. :)