Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JandS on June 12, 2009, 05:19:56 pm
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Pick up my new machine next Friday.
400psi Ninja, can't wait.
John
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Thats what I've got John - you won't be disappointed.
The heater is very good on the Ninja and while it goes up to 400 - I rarely use more than 220.
Let us know how you get on with it.
Steve
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You got the steammate with it??
Is it worth it cos I've ordered it.
Nice round trip for me Thurs/Fri.
John
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John
No I haven't got the steamate, just the normal element - but that heats up to 60 C, so the steamate is going to give you all the heat you will need from the porty.
Just one word of advice, get Alltec to service it when it's due - it was one thing buying the machine from Ashbys, but I wouldn't give them anymore of my money.
Steve
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The steam mate is superb, especially for letting properties with no hot water.
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Cheers for that Gary.
What was the problem with them Steve?
Will probably find somebody local to service.
Any good digs near Ashbys for the night?
I'm a Yorkshireman so must be cheap, no more than 2 bags of salt!!!!!
John
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The steam mate is superb, especially for letting properties with no hot water.
Agree with that! Did a commercial this morning - couldn't see for steam. ;D
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John
I just don't like Martin's attitude and nor do a lot of people, never met Derek but I think he commands more respect.
Steve
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When I did some training at Ashby's they put me on to a really nice place like a converted barn. Was about 5 mins drive from them.
PS. Derek is a nice guy and I'm sure Martin is as well. But I completely agree with Steve. Martin is a classic example of someone who can do textbook Sales, but then lose a heck of a lot of money because he just gives you the the feeling he's pulling your pants down.
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Agree with you steve on that.
Didnt like his attitude either and i did mention that to him ;)
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John you won't be dissapointed really good machine i bought one in February. Definitely made life easier . I bought my one in Dartford ,always had a good rapport with Derek and Ed ,always been very helpful,even get a cup of tea when i go there ;D
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John
Did you get the extra vac in your new set up mate ???
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It's about 8 years since I first dealt with Ashby's and what totally put me off for life was the manner of Martin ..............after I'd got the machine which was the full spec with added steammate and chewing gum wand plus 75 feet of hose he refused to honour their advertised FREE two days training.
I'm afraid that was the last time I dealt with Ashby's
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Clinton
No just got the next package down 1 x 3 stage heavy duty vacuum + 1 x 3 stage vacuum motor.
4oo psi motor pump.
3 kw immersion heater.
3 kw V2 SteamMate.
Plus the add ons
John
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Clinton you don't need a third vac with a NINJA ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D in series better water lift ;) ;) ;) ;)
CHEERS TONY ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Tony
I forgot that ;D ;)
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Gonna be a long drive down.
John
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Dont want to put a downer on Ashbys and the Ninja but it was my worst ever decision in carpet cleaning to get a Ninja.
I had a Ninja with all the bells and whistles ie auto pump in waste tank and in line heater. Bought it 3 yrs ago and its been in shed for the last 2 years had to dig out my 10 yr old Alltec Pro plus which IMO knocks spots off it.
Firstly Ashbys refused to re new a water pump on my new Ninja after only 6 months work because I hadnt had a service done with them. I kicked and screamed and they eventually did. Then after another 6 months the water pump packed in again which was my cue to put it in the shed.
Heres the problems I couldnt get on with.
1. No temperature gauge.
2. No hour meter.
3. Small solution and waste tanks
4. The in line heater will not ( well it didnt on mine and Ashbys told me it wont) heat up stone cold water if using eg a scrubba deluxe or similar because the water flow is too much with 3 water jets as opposed to say the upholstery tool with one.
5. Maybe I've been spolit with the vac motors I've always had previously but the vac motor brushes were very hard to change WRT the connections. Had to butcher the connections to get them off and replace with new. There was no easy slide on slide off spade connection.
6. I'm 6ft 2 and fit but with all the bells and whistles on this Ninja it was sooooo hard to carry up and down steps and manouvre anywhere, a bleeping nightmare.
All you boffins and anoraks will all try and shoot me down in flames but everything I've said is true.
Chris
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Why do you need a temperature gauge?
Why carry it up and down stairs, it's got wheels and it only weighs 39kgs.
John
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Had mine as long all bells and whistles no problems at all.
Just one point the idea of having an in tank heater is so you heat the water while doing you prep then you are passing already hot water over the heat exchanger bingo very hot water.
sooooooon TO BE MY BACK UP MACHINE TRUCK MOUNT NEARLY READY
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CHEERS TONY
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Hi guys
I have to agree with most of you , I have had my two ninja for the past 7 years, the actual machine is a great one, because I have tried different portys prior to that, but Ashbys have to change some of their attitude towards their customers, I also had problem with their services too.
Regards,
Bosh
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I've run ninjas for years, but never the all-singing all dancing ones with the bells and whistles attached. You pour water in, it heats it, pumps it out and sucks it back. Simples! Rarely had a breakdown and never had a machine offline for more than 24 hours.
I think the stumbling block is ashbys trying to make them more than they are - a twin vac machine that will heat water fairly hot, pump it at a modest pressure/flow rate and suck it back pretty well from up to 50ft away. Adding the extra gadgets is just more scope to go wrong. If you want higher vac, heat and pressure, auto fill and pump out.....get a truckmount and be done with it for heaven's sake. A porty is a porty.
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Bleeping hell you lot make me laugh. So you're telling me you never have to carry your porty up and down stairs or steps. Behave yourself lol .
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Bleeping hell you lot make me laugh. So you're telling me you never have to carry your porty up and down stairs or steps. Behave yourself lol .
I rarely have to take my machine upstairs or steps as I have plenty of hose (Fnar Fnar). But when I do have I make sure I've had 3 Weetabix ;D The Exel's a heavy bugger so I'm looking forward to building my shoulders up even more with the Alltec TV when it arrives in a couple of weeks time..... ;) ;D
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You don't have to physically carry it, it's got wheels on it.
John
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I've done a few second floor flats with a ninja, dragged it up the stairs... not fun! But it's do-able, going backwards and taking it easy, the centre of gravity is good and there's a knack which you find easy once you've got it.
Probably a few times a week I'll have to negotiate a small set of steps, like 2 or 3 at a time, and I don't find it a problem. Mind you I'm 6'2" and not a weakling, maybe it's different for others :P
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it will be interesting col to hear your feedback on how the alltec negotiates stairs looks a little awkward just from the way it looks . it looks like a lot of weight on the front end. but with that much suck doubt you will have to take it up much.
you goin to run all 2inch hoses from it or have a whip hose to make it more manouverable
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Dunno what I'm going to do, I was going to run a whip hose but I'll play around first and see if the manoeuvrability will make things difficult and if the results are worth it. If the TV is too heavy then I'll use the Exel if there's an issue with steps/stairs!
I've got used to using the Scrubba now too, so I'll probably carry on using that if I can get away with putting 200 psi through it ??? This will mean using a whip in that case.
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Coln you will find most jobs you can manage with your hoses and leaving the machine outside..
Did you order a reducer hose at the end ??? i also got a small reducer tube to go on the end of the 2"hose extension so it would fit on my wand if i didnt want to use the whip hose.
Am sure you will be fine with it.
You wont be disapointed mate with it ;)
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I told them I needed a reducer so I can only assume they're sending one... I leave my Exel outside, keeps those motors cool. I'm itching to get my machine Clinton, I think I'm looking at 2 and a half weeks now....
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Nice one colin
The reducer is handy just dont loose it lol or leave it got another myself just in case ;D
You will find the dif with the larger hoses and its so quiet and like most stuf from alltec it lasts :)
Looks like your a big guy like me so wont have trouble if you ever have to lift it ;D
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That's my Dad in the picture... I'm only 3' 2" and weigh 3lb.... ;D ;D ;D
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shouldn say too much more col people may assume your a native cornish man.
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Colin ;D
Am too only tiny and quiet ;)
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I have a length of whip hose for most jobs, but when it's a big open area I just use a reducing cuff to 1.5. When I do this I'm using the super flexible hose that solutions sell, I wouldn't do it with the standard HM hose.
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shouldn say too much more col people may assume your a native cornish man.
I said nothing about having a pointy head ;D ;D ;D
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First job tomorrow with it.
But first my computer room.
The steammate is amazing.
It weighs quite a bit too so God knows what the new Altech
is like to load at 15kg heavier.
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Apparantly looks are worth more then practicalities like weight considerations. ::)
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I`ve got a ninja 400 psi which I bought from Ashby`s a few years back. The very first job I did with it, the pump had water pouring out of it. Phoned up Ashbys and they said send it back by courier and they will sort it. Only problem was, they wanted me to pay the courier £50 each way. When they got it, the two back wheels where damaged by the courier and I got billed for that to!! They said i hadnt packed it properly. Anyway, last thing I ever bought from them.
Their new truckmount looks nice but because of the service I`ve had from them in the past, U wouldn`t even consider buying one from them. Shame cos Derek is a really nice bloke but the family have absolutely no odea of customer service.
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Sounds like people either love 'em or hate 'em.
John
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Well anyone who loves a Ninja can have mine. Was used for a year at most with all the bells and whistles. Finish paying for it in a month or so then its up for sale.
Chris
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The new version looks good.
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ok Chris if it is that crap i'll give you £100 for it to go with mine that't been going for 3years with no problems at all.
CHEERS TONY
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make that £200 :)
geoff
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;D ;D
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The Ninja is that crap and worse and if you love it u can av it for £3000
Chris
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Three Grand CRAP ha! ha! ha! what a JOKE best i've heard this year ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;
CHEERS TONY
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Used it Saturday and it performed brilliantly, especially the steammmate.
But I did miss the temperature gauge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If that's all you can find wrong with it cleanability then you aint got a clue.
John
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What do you want a temp gauge for?
I never had one on my CFR500, nor on the Scorpion. OK - the TM has one but when I am working 50' feet away I cant see the thing anyway.
You can feel the heat in the brass connectors. Thats enough isnt it?
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I think knowing what the heat is, (Albeit it at the machine) is a confidence thing. The Extracta 20" Scrubba allows you to see the temp and the pressure at the business end.... Nice to know? I suppose, and it "Looks" the mutts but it's probably not really necessary!
If my hand's burning I know the solution is hot ;) ;D
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It's got a thermostat that tells you the temp it's heating to.
John
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John
If your not used to having a temp gauge on your other machine you wont miss it really.
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I just keep the thermostat up at maximum at the mo.
The steammate is awesome just with plain hot water, if using chemicals
only need to use half what it recommends on label.
John