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Title: will this work???
Post by: mr D on June 04, 2009, 11:49:37 pm
i've a 400ltr tank with a varistream and a 100psi pump.

could I buy another hose+real and run a 2nd pole from the same system by just turning the veristream from 2 which I currently use it on to 4?

I'm looking at taking on my 1st member of staff.  :-[
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on June 04, 2009, 11:56:48 pm
Personally I would have a second pump and flow controller.






Matt
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: mr D on June 05, 2009, 12:02:34 am
ideally i would but at the moment things are a bit tight what with my van dieing so i thought i'd be able to make do?
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: NWH on June 05, 2009, 12:04:38 am
You will need another outlet from your tank aswell.
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: Window Washers on June 05, 2009, 12:10:58 am
i've a 400ltr tank with a varistream and a 100psi pump.

could I buy another hose+real and run a 2nd pole from the same system by just turning the veristream from 2 which I currently use it on to 4?

I'm looking at taking on my 1st member of staff.  :-[
yes you could, you would need a Y hose connector before hose reels, it will do.

I would defo get another pump and controler though, but for short term use yes you could what you have.
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: mr D on June 05, 2009, 12:11:22 am
You will need another outlet from your tank aswell.

NO WAY!?!

I'll get the lad a squeeze then.
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: mr D on June 05, 2009, 12:12:43 am
i've a 400ltr tank with a varistream and a 100psi pump.

could I buy another hose+real and run a 2nd pole from the same system by just turning the veristream from 2 which I currently use it on to 4?

I'm looking at taking on my 1st member of staff.  :-[
yes you could, you would need a Y hose connector before hose reels, it will do.

I would defo get another pump and controler though, but for short term use yes you could what you have.

cheers Ian, I was sure I'd heard guys say they had done this b4.
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: NWH on June 05, 2009, 12:14:12 am
If your putting in a Y piece why will you need another pump and varistream,the single pump will pump water to the Y piece and then to both reels.
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on June 05, 2009, 12:14:32 am
you can buy a double elbow for the outlet.
Mr D how long is your hose and the second hose? how high are the windows you plan to clean.
100psi pump is ok for 1 guy and 100m of minibore upto heights of 50-60ft, 2 guys going through 2 sets of 100m minibore upto to 30-40ft and the pump will struggle to cope.
Mr D dont take this the wrong way mate, but if finances are tight why are you having an employee?
personally I would set him on a week later than you planned and the money you would of paid him could pay for a pump and controller. thats just my opinion Mr D



Matt
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: Window Washers on June 05, 2009, 12:18:55 am
If your putting in a Y piece why will you need another pump and varistream,the single pump will pump water to the Y piece and then to both reels.
I have either read wrong or this dont make sence m8, a 100psi pump will pump to 2 pole if using a y piece it will also go to 2 reels, I just would not reccommend only having a single pump (have 1 for back up for the cost of them you would be mad not to as soon as funds were available.
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: mr D on June 05, 2009, 12:28:34 am
you can buy a double elbow for the outlet.
Mr D how long is your hose and the second hose? how high are the windows you plan to clean.
100psi pump is ok for 1 guy and 100m of minibore upto heights of 50-60ft, 2 guys going through 2 sets of 100m minibore upto to 30-40ft and the pump will struggle to cope.
Mr D dont take this the wrong way mate, but if finances are tight why are you having an employee?
personally I would set him on a week later than you planned and the money you would of paid him could pay for a pump and controller. thats just my opinion Mr D



Matt

at present I'm using 100m 8mm hose and dont clean over 20 ft. dont need to and dont want to, no need.

I need to take some one on to cover the work load, I'm turning work away left right and center at the moment which I dont like doing. since going wfp I've become very picky on what I do and feel its time I got some one to help expand and be less fussy.

funds are tight but nothing a week wont sort its just I'm not sure how the workload I have will go with 2 poles there for thought trying it out b4 I buy would be a good idea.

also if the lad turns out to be 2 bob. no big deal.

Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on June 05, 2009, 12:31:46 am
true but you will still need to find another guy if you want to expand mate.
just a question, how much do you think pumps and flow controllers are?
You could get both for about £150




Matt
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: mr D on June 05, 2009, 12:36:16 am
as little as that? :o

 prices have dropped since I last shopped!

where from?
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: Window Washers on June 05, 2009, 12:36:29 am
true but you will still need to find another guy if you want to expand mate.
just a question, how much do you think pumps and flow controllers are?
You could get both for about £150




Matt
correct at purefreedom.co.uk, I had these delivered the other day  ;D

sAY i SAID TO CALL THEM aNDREW BRAMLEY THE GUY you want to talk to, he  will sort you out and not stitch you up  ;)

Edit: not sure what happened with the text above  ::)
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on June 05, 2009, 12:40:05 am
Oh those guys at purefreedom do it again  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I dealt with Andrew Bramley with my system  :P lol
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: mr D on June 05, 2009, 12:41:35 am
whey hay Ians on the pop again!! lol

cheers mate will do once I know how much this van's gonna cost me.
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on June 05, 2009, 12:43:24 am
Mr D you sound surprised that Ian's on the pop lol   ;D
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: Window Washers on June 05, 2009, 12:44:33 am
whey hay Ians on the pop again!! lol

cheers mate will do once I know how much this van's gonna cost me.
Reading that back myself made my head spin and the pop I have been drinking is coffee :( 15 hours from now I can see an ice cold beer, welcome back Dean
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: mr D on June 05, 2009, 12:47:24 am
cheers doode.

better hit the sac i've a hot date with some Iron tomorrow at 6am  ;D

then gonna have to walk ladders a mile to a gutter clean I've got waiting coz mrs wont let me pop ladders on the roof of the car  >:(
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on June 05, 2009, 12:49:10 am
Ive been ddrriinnkkiiinngg ccoofffeee aall ddaayy aannddd II caanntt ssttoppp thheessee bbllooooddyy cafeine shaakkeess lol
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: DaveG on June 05, 2009, 08:45:22 am
Alright MrD long time no see mate....

When i was working with my step brother we ran 2 100m mini bore hose reels off of one pump pump no problem, just using a Y piece to split the the hose before the reels.

We did this for almost a year , so i would say go for it mate
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: mr D on June 05, 2009, 09:02:12 pm
thanks a lot mate. hows business?

pm me if you'd rather.
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: DaveG on June 05, 2009, 09:07:57 pm
Hi Dean cant pm on here!

Yeh busy at the mo mate .. good to see youre busy too !!

Cheers Dave
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: mr D on June 05, 2009, 09:54:42 pm
to many windows not enough window cleaners, same old story.

I've recently taken up wall and floor tiling to gain a visa to move to OZ so i'm finding my work load unmanageable alone so going to have to take someone on to keep on top of it when I get behind from the tiling work.

I figure if i stop turning work down (which I hate doing but has become a regular occurrence lately) I can afford to take some one on for a couple of days a week then build from there.

Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: DaveG on June 05, 2009, 10:26:05 pm
Good on you mate!

I had a guy call me a few weeks ago looking for work, says hes an experienced w cleaner (?)  ive kept his number if you want it?
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: mr D on June 05, 2009, 10:56:50 pm
cheers mate but I've got someone waiting in the wings.

after 7 years of my dad employing so called 'experienced window cleaners' i'd rather train/mould some one my self.
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: DaveG on June 06, 2009, 07:13:00 am
I thought you would say that!!

No worries mate

Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: Alex Wingrove on June 06, 2009, 08:06:01 am
if you want, you could always buy the new pump from gardiners, and hook it up to a 100m reel of microbore 6mm, and add a tap on the end and adjust flow like that,

the problem with adding a flow controler to two reels, is that when one is stopped it will pour it out the other, and they are set up for one reel,

you can alternatibly try connecting up the two reels to the pump without the flow controller and see how that works, but i have only got experience with flojet so not sure about that one

best bet, buy a new pump and controller for £150
Title: Re: will this work???
Post by: mr D on June 06, 2009, 08:13:57 am
thanks for your input Alex, your right I'd thought about that, the H2O wastage would be high because i'd be doing the lions share and when matey boys turned his hose of i'd end up using x4.