Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Frequently Asked Questions & Useful Resources => Topic started by: tdog7777 on May 29, 2009, 04:10:56 pm
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me and my friend recently bought a window cleaning round, did the hand over and now he has the money he has turned round and stuck two fingers up at us and is saying he is ripin us of, he has said he is going to canvass the houses back, he is local lad and well know in the area and we are not from that area, has anyone else been ripped of? if so what did u do and how do u go about reporting it an geting your money back?
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Did he not introduce you to the customers ???
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yes he did, he has been doing the round for 2 yrs before us, so they no him pretty well
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They dont know him well enough, :o
go round your custies and tell them what he is planning to do
and ask them to give you a chance to prove yourselves,
then if you are better than him you can give him the 2 fingers.
;D ;D
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Sorry to read that you are in this situation. It would probably be best for you to go and see all the customers on the round you bought or leave letters for them and explain the situation. Chances are they won't be happy with the old window cleaners behaviour and they might give you a chance to prove yourself.
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Did you give all money upfront??. We bought a round and I made up an agreement (not sure if it was actually worth it..lol, but just in case). We paid a deposit, and agreed that we wanted all customers numbers/adresses and would work the round for two months and introduce ourselves (which we did), and not canvass any and do a runner without paying.
In turn, the guy received no more money until we had established it and if we lost any, i.e they moved, got another cleaner, etc... we deducted this from the final payment. It worked fine.
If it is an honest round I honestly think it should be paid in instalments.
Another guy wanted it all upfront, and we said instalments....................funny, he decided not to sell it and have never heard from him again.
Really sorry to hear that m8 :( Hope it works out
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Sorry to read that you are in this situation. It would probably be best for you to go and see all the customers on the round you bought or leave letters for them and explain the situation. Chances are they won't be happy with the old window cleaners behaviour and they might give you a chance to prove yourself.
Yeah that's what I would do.What an utter lowlife.This is one of the main reasons I've always been wary about buying rounds.
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cheers for th advice ut it int woking they ae going back to him, he is telling them we riped him of nd they are going back to him, the round is in sale and he is called daniel just to let other plp know
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I feel really angry at this sort of thing
I have to say that is why I will canvassing fresh custies to try to prevent this >:(
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cheers for th advice ut it int woking they ae going back to him, he is telling them we riped him of nd they are going back to him, the round is in sale and he is called daniel just to let other plp know
I'm not a violent man in the slightest but I'd be tempted to give him a hiding.It's the only language scum like that understand.I'm guessing he charged you a lot of money for the round so it's basically theft.
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WOW!
OK! Did you have any evidence of your agreement i.e written, advertisement, etc. How did you pay your deposit by cash, cheque. Check back and see if you have any information received from him etc.
Look it all depends on how much the round is worth before considering any further steps but you may want to consider taking advice on a possible injunction to stop him from working in the area but this would not guarantee the customers would come to you. What you could do if sucessful is to let the client know the round has been sold, he was not trustworthy and you would hope that you could continue their service on a trial basis. If they are not happy then they can give you notice not to do any more windows for them.
If you can get enough information together there is some prospect of obtaining an order to stop one from working in the area. Why was he selling it anyway? Was it his intention to commit a deception from the start after all that is what it is and there is laws about this type of behaviour.
Go the smart way not an eye for an eye although tempting could put you in the sought of trouble you do not need right now or at anytime.
Good luck
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Slightly different but 3 years ago two employees took it upon themselves to photocopy worksheets and then inform customers i was no longer working in their area. A solicitor wrote them a letter threatening court injucntion if they desist from their actions. I then post a copy of the solicitors letter to all customers with a brief explanation about what was going on. I got all my customers back plus a few of neighbours these had picked up as well .
In regards to your situation take legal advice, failing that i would do him a bit of damage
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can i ask how much he charged you for the round?and what was his last name?am asking cause on another site a guy called daniel is selling a round in the manc area for 12k thanks
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ian thats him, www.windowcleaningroundforsale.co.uk
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well he still trying to rip someone off then you should plaster his name and all the details all over the place make sure he dont do it to someone else,personally your story has put me off buying a round altogether.........i wouldnt let it lie though mate no way
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Somebody should have a word with that website before somebody else is stitched up.
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You really need to make an appointment with a solicitor taking along as much evidence of the transaction as possible i.e. bank statement showing money being drawn out, the receipt for the sale, the customer list he gave you, even a print out of his advert on 'roundsforsale' together with anything else you may have.
And let them tell you the best course of action!
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THE SAME ROUND IS BEING SOLD HERE ON BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES!!! :o
I know I was shouting.
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The round in question has now been removed.
Thank you for notifying us of the situation.
Also: If anyone has bought a round and it is still advertised as being for sale then please let us know.
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You really should be talking to the police this is theft
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are you sure it has been removed?
I can see one with that name still on.
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No that's a different Daniel.
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me and my friend recently bought a window cleaning round, did the hand over and now he has the money he has turned round and stuck two fingers up at us and is saying he is ripin us of, he has said he is going to canvass the houses back, he is local lad and well know in the area and we are not from that area, has anyone else been ripped of? if so what did u do and how do u go about reporting it an geting your money back?
Are you in manchester pal??
Where in manchester is the round i might know of it?
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All my work is 100% genuine - All my buyers are very happy and have already started to build on what i sold them Im danny from Platinum Contracts NW in St Helens before anyone wants to hang me
I sold my rounds for the cash but i printed reciepts for both me and the buyer to prove the payment. They arent legally binding by any means but it is was security on both halfs doing it this way
Im not aware of any way you could get your money back other than breaking his legs-dont think the police would do much either but it is theft but from a police view it would be a business dispute which they would not want to get involved in
Your best bet is to speak to the customers get them on your side and drag him into your van and poop him up. Also learn from your mistakes . If the round is genuine he would have given you all the help and support you wanted. I still keep in touch with buyers and they are doing well but im surprised if oyu can call it theft as you agreed a price on the round - He sold it - you bought it - Think the police would just see it as him canvassing as another window cleaner
Let us know how you get on
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Personaly i would never buy a round, but i have sold a big one before and i sold it far to cheap to a lad who then after a couple of months had it taken off him by a drug dealer who he owed money to and it when down hill very quickly and now these nothing left of it, but i reacon the works still going spare and the dealer's locked up now.