Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Timmy Boy on May 26, 2009, 12:51:04 pm
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Hi all
Cleaned a carpet last friday that is in the offices to a flapjack factory. The carpet is covered in margarine and has been trodden in over a period of about a year. I used to clean it every 2 months but they cut budgets and have asked to come back in. I pre sprayed with Chemspec preclean enzyme spray, brushed in and extracted with F&F rinse (truckmount). I hit the carpet 4 times, although the blacktop has gone and it looks better, it still looks a real mess. Any ideas as I have got to go back this friday to try again
Thanks in advance
Tim
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tim, i don't know if this method is any use to you... when i've done resturant/pub carpets, i use a product called 'enzo-soil one', its an in tank & pre-spray (powder), aggitate with a slow speed floor machine, & that cuts through the grease & black top, & then extract it off... charlie
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Charlie is your little slogan " we got lumps of it round the back " off Black adder 2
scene from the execution dungeon with ploppy and son of ploppy
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It's from "Monty Python's Meaning of Life".... ;D
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sorry lads your both wrong! it twas from 'the life of brian' ;D i've always loved that saying, it always makes me chuckle.... i remember ploppi son of ploppi too, makes me laugh too! charlie ;D
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Oh dear, how frightfully embarassing! ;D
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Hi Charlie
Thanks for the response, who makes enzo-soil one? Is it similar to enzall?
Regards
Tim
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Tim, margarine is primarily vegetable oil. How long did you leave the pre spray to dwell as the enzymes do need time to work. I think Enzall would be better.
Or I would hit it with a hot high alkaline pre-spray.
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Charlie
Think i had some of that a while back given as a sample :)
I thought it was black adder too ;D
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I sprayed it down using an inline sprayer and the concentrated mix was hot when I put it in the presprayer. In regards to agitation I used the broom, but I will be returning with my envirodry machine. I tried testing an area with some hydramaster grease breaker as it says you can apply this as a spotter. Although it broke down the grease, the carpet went lighter than the rest! The other problem is that they are Low profile carpet tiles.
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Hi Guys
Timmy, I would forget the fibre and fabric rinse and use a highish pH product with the TM, you can always mist with acid rinse at the end if you are worried about pH.
Dwell time is very important with thick grease , so spray early.
Cheers
Doug
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Sounds like a Ferrari bye product
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thanks Doug
What would you suggest, I've got some carpetclean XL in the garage, do you think that is more up to the job (PH 9.5)
Regards
Tim
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Higher ph12-13
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this sounds like a job for "CHAMPION" by craftex, its great on grease, oils, grime, tar & very heavy traffic... ph 13.5... costs about £8.95 for 5lts... enzo-soil one is distributed by amtechuk.biz. regards charlie ;)
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Get the job done right & use Prochem Power Burst. If you aggitate it even better, rinse extract with acid rinse. The results im sure will be 1st class.
Richie.
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Sounds like a Champion job.
Hope you charge them more than it works out to do it on your old schedule.
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Hi Guys,
Timmy , Champion must be stacked with sodium hydroxide to be pH 13.5, it will be effective on fat but will be corrosive and difficult to neutralise.
Powerburst in pH 11.5, I think ,which as pH is logarithmic scale is 100 times less alkaline than Champion (but the amount of buffering will also be a factor).
I would try Powerburst first but it would be an interesting experiment to try both.
Cheers
Doug
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I had a really bad pub carpet and rinsed with prochems double clean after powerburst. Did a super job! Agitation is the key. Spray with FF rince/acidic rinse afterwards. If you have a bonnet system you could bonnet after double clean prior to acidic rinse spray, or if you get it dry enough why not extract again with rinse and finish with a bonnet. This is really restoration work and you should charge properly for your time. Then impress apon them the logic of regular and cheaper cleans ;D
Simon
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Thanks all
I've just ordered some enzall (sounds like I dont need it now - Damn!), I have powerburst and double clean in the garage so I shall give it a whirl. So my plan is prespray with powerburst, agitate with envirodry, rinse extract with double clean, bonnet and then mist with F&F. I will let you know how it goes.
Regards
Tim
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I use Hydramaster Blitz with some Hm greasebreaker added - works for me...
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Hi Guys
Timmy, enzymes products are particularly good when you have food i.e protein mixed in with the fat , as in restaurants.
Cheers
Doug
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i would have agreed with you there doug but i had a minging restaurant the other week and as i had some enzyme still in the van thought i would use that, not too good, mixed up some powerburst, chalk and cheese, came up great, that said i don't know how old the enzyme was, can it go off?
colin
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Hi Doug
I thought that Powerburst worked along the same lines as a enzyme, whats the difference? (chemically speaking)
Thanks
Tim