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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: big J on May 23, 2009, 06:52:58 am

Title: CRB
Post by: big J on May 23, 2009, 06:52:58 am
I got asked yesterday if I have a CRB check done!!

I have as it happens but has anyone else been asked or had them  done?
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: windolene on May 23, 2009, 07:46:42 am
Hi,

Yes I have by a BUPA nursing home that I had cleaned for a couple of years. The new manageress went by the book & said she had to let me go as some convictions I had incurred a life time ago (over 20 years) forced her hand.

Kevin windolene.
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: LWC on May 23, 2009, 07:57:09 am
Yes i have been asked for one, for a nursing home.

Matt
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Post by: ftp on May 23, 2009, 08:03:05 am
I do an old peoples home and to be honest I wish they would do one.
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: AJ on May 23, 2009, 10:35:40 am
I was asked by a company for CRB, but was told that it would only be for staff.
Apparently, as the owner of the company I didn't need it.
Still doing the job myself without it.
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: weetot on May 23, 2009, 04:34:57 pm
I do a large care home, and had one for 3 years now, the manager said it couldnt accept any windowcleaners who do inside work without one. previous to that i did the same home for 15 years before they asked but i dont think CRB,s or 'Criminal Investigation Beureux' checks were around then.
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: weetot on May 23, 2009, 04:36:10 pm
'Criminal Records Bureax' is what i meant to say ;)
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: jodan63 on May 23, 2009, 05:36:10 pm
bureau !!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: GWCS on May 23, 2009, 06:22:47 pm
Ive had them done, but never been asked.

Title: Re: CRB
Post by: macmac on May 24, 2009, 08:50:07 am
How do you get a "CRB"?
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: LWC on May 24, 2009, 11:26:21 am
How do you get a "CRB"?

Go to Police station and ask for CRB check form.
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: macmac on May 24, 2009, 03:44:05 pm
How do you get a "CRB"?

Go to Police station and ask for CRB check form.

does it cost? ;D
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: LWC on May 24, 2009, 04:35:05 pm
Yes i think its £25
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: macmac on May 24, 2009, 04:48:12 pm
Yes i think its £25

Thanks dude, do you get some kind of certificate or something?
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: LWC on May 24, 2009, 05:09:26 pm
Yes you do, i think it lasts 2 years.
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Post by: dave0123 on May 24, 2009, 05:13:36 pm
Can you do that with employees? or do they have to go and apply themselvs ?
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: LWC on May 24, 2009, 05:15:47 pm
Take a look here guys

http://www.crb.gov.uk/
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: weetot on May 24, 2009, 08:24:21 pm
Thanks jodan63, I couldnt spell the bleedin word.... berua, bearuex, got it in the end cheers. ;D ;D
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: simon knight on May 24, 2009, 08:39:43 pm
Hi,

Yes I have by a BUPA nursing home that I had cleaned for a couple of years. The new manageress went by the book & said she had to let me go as some convictions I had incurred a life time ago (over 20 years) forced her hand.

Kevin windolene.

She's lying! Statute of limitations is 7 years.
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: Window Washers on May 24, 2009, 11:03:26 pm
Hi,

Yes I have by a BUPA nursing home that I had cleaned for a couple of years. The new manageress went by the book & said she had to let me go as some convictions I had incurred a life time ago (over 20 years) forced her hand.

Kevin windolene.

She's lying! Statute of limitations is 7 years.
I think you may find your wrong on that one, some things will be picked up on crb checks it depends on what they search for ;) it is not limited to 7 years trust me
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: mci services on May 24, 2009, 11:10:08 pm
it says on the link provided that the self employed cant apply for one on themselfs


The current legislation does not allow the self-employed or individuals to apply for a CRB check on themselves. In addition, parents who employ a nanny/au pair/babysitter directly cannot apply for a CRB check; however, if an agency supplies the nanny/au pair/babysitter, the agency is entitled to carry out a CRB check.
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: Window Washers on May 24, 2009, 11:13:03 pm
it says on the link provided that the self employed cant apply for one on themselfs


The current legislation does not allow the self-employed or individuals to apply for a CRB check on themselves. In addition, parents who employ a nanny/au pair/babysitter directly cannot apply for a CRB check; however, if an agency supplies the nanny/au pair/babysitter, the agency is entitled to carry out a CRB check.

you have to use an umbrella company or get a care home or simalar to do it for you......
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Post by: mci services on May 24, 2009, 11:22:25 pm
ok but seems a bit daft, as part of the licencening process i pressume i am checked anyway
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Post by: ftp on May 24, 2009, 11:32:50 pm
I understand they are not transferrable. So if the nursing home gets one done on you then you can't carry it on to your next job?
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Post by: Window Washers on May 24, 2009, 11:55:34 pm
I understand they are not transferrable. So if the nursing home gets one done on you then you can't carry it on to your next job?
My wife is a social worker and her new job but same area needs a new crb check, so I guess it goes for all
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: simon knight on May 25, 2009, 09:04:52 am
Hi,

Yes I have by a BUPA nursing home that I had cleaned for a couple of years. The new manageress went by the book & said she had to let me go as some convictions I had incurred a life time ago (over 20 years) forced her hand.

Kevin windolene.

She's lying! Statute of limitations is 7 years.
I think you may find your wrong on that one, some things will be picked up on crb checks it depends on what they search for ;) it is not limited to 7 years trust me

Yes you're right...my mate don't know s##t!
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: Window Washers on May 25, 2009, 09:58:57 am
Hi,

Yes I have by a BUPA nursing home that I had cleaned for a couple of years. The new manageress went by the book & said she had to let me go as some convictions I had incurred a life time ago (over 20 years) forced her hand.

Kevin windolene.

She's lying! Statute of limitations is 7 years.
I think you may find your wrong on that one, some things will be picked up on crb checks it depends on what they search for ;) it is not limited to 7 years trust me

Yes you're right...my mate don't know s##t!
your m8 is half right, it depends on the conviction and the reason for the checks
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: big J on May 25, 2009, 10:06:49 am
it can also depend on if it is a basic CRB check or the enhanced one
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: GWCS on May 25, 2009, 01:45:50 pm
If you get it done via an umbrella body you can have your own company name on it.

But, just like a MOT its only as good as the day it was done.

So its best to get it done every year.

The basic one is pointless as it misses stuff out, best to go for the enhanced, but i suppose if you have been a bad boy (or girl) at some point it will prob be not a good idea to get it done.
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: tonyoliver on May 25, 2009, 02:10:33 pm
lots of people on here could lose out big time for stuff they did 20 or 30 years ago that night out drunk........................convictions arte spent over so long you dont have to reveal it except for the young and the old and for security type jobs she cant let you go if it was spent 20 years ago
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: Gordon Saunders on May 25, 2009, 08:03:29 pm
 There are 2 types of crb check . An enhanced disclosure CRB check will list any convictions with no time limit . It does not last for 2 yrs as a previous post mentioned it is only an indication of your criminal record up til the date of the check. The enhanced disclosure crb check also lists info held under the following

  section 142 education act 2002
  protection of children list
  Protection of vulnerable adults list

  Other relevant information can also be disclosed at the chief police officers discretion

  Rehabilitation of offenders act does not apply under enhanced disclosure.
 As well as window cleaning i also work with vulnerable adults and children and these crb checks are compulsory.

  You can apply for for a copy of your own crb disclosure.
   G
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: collins82002 on May 26, 2009, 12:04:26 pm
Being self employed how can i get a crb check done?
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: big J on May 26, 2009, 12:22:50 pm
go on line and look up crb checking services and take it from there
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: Frankybadboy on May 26, 2009, 09:05:22 pm
i get mine done for free. ;) ;) ;) ;)and they last 3years :P :P
Title: Re: CRB
Post by: R W C on May 29, 2009, 05:36:45 pm
CRB checks do last 3 years, I had to have them done in my previous employment (care worker) lucky enough my mum is the director of my previous job so I can still get them done (due now) and it cost me about £50 for full one, I do know that when my mum employes new staff even if theyve had a CRB done in the last 3 years it counts for nothing and a new one needs doing, also if your only doing externals of nursing homes etc you dont need one but of your doing any internal windows to residents of the homes rooms (bedroom) the manager/director etc by law has to get you CRB checked, internal of nursing home communal areas, restaurants etc doesnt count.