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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: R W C on May 21, 2009, 08:31:43 am

Title: East Sussex/West Sussex
Post by: R W C on May 21, 2009, 08:31:43 am
There is a company from Burgess Hil ringing up LOADS of custys offering window cleaning, this isnt the problem but there now asking the custys what they currently pay and that they will be cheaper, this has hacked off a lot of the local lads, I know there contact details but not putting them on here as then theyll gets lots of hits to there site.

Chris
Title: Re: East Sussex/West Sussex
Post by: Rob.Hall on May 21, 2009, 08:46:39 am
Are they a w/c company or tel sales?

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Post by: R W C on May 21, 2009, 08:47:57 am
There a window cleaning company,
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Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on May 21, 2009, 08:55:10 am
This is called business ! ! !
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Post by: leapstallbuildings on May 21, 2009, 08:58:31 am
There a window cleaning company,

Although they might be giving their own business a quick fix, they're creating a problem for themselves in the longer term - as well as other W/Cers.  A fair bit of W/Cing involves the spirit of co-operation.  Remove that and it can start to get a bit silly.  There are people now - since the advent of WFP particularly - who are transferring methods from other businesses into W/Cing.  It had to happen eventually I suppose.  However, the problem being that most W/C businesses are one man bands or very small businesses.  Start undercutting the rates of enough very small businesses and getting the work and it starts to get very personal indeed.  I foresee trouble for that outfit if they encroach too far.  I wonder where they were when it was necessary to use ladders.  Crapping their pants at being two feet above the ground probably.
I acknowledge that with a recession, some of this stuff is inevitable.  It's the deliberate undercutting that is the problem - not the phoning.
Title: Re: East Sussex/West Sussex
Post by: leapstallbuildings on May 21, 2009, 09:03:47 am
This is called business ! ! !

Of course it is.  It just gets a bit more personal in a trade where nearly all the businesses are one man bands.  If it were possible to organise it, I would be happy to team up with 30 window cleaners and do the Burgess Hill company's work for £1 a house until they go broke.  It would only be a day a month each to almost sacrifice.  So I spend a day earning £15 or £20 along with 30 others.  Burgess Hill Co. goes broke.  Then put the prices up to what they should be.  Alternatively, they could leave other people's work alone.
Of course it wouldn't be realistic to organise this but maybe the threat of it could stop the toe treading.
Title: Re: East Sussex/West Sussex
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on May 21, 2009, 09:09:42 am
This is called business ! ! !

Of course it is.  It just gets a bit more personal in a trade where nearly all the businesses are one man bands.  If it were possible to organise it, I would be happy to team up with 30 window cleaners and do the Burgess Hill company's work for £1 a house until they go broke.  It would only be a day a month each to almost sacrifice.  So I spend a day earning £15 or £20 along with 30 others.  Burgess Hill Co. goes broke.  Then put the prices up to what they should be.  Alternatively, they could leave other people's work alone.
Of course it wouldn't be realistic to organise this but maybe the threat of it could stop the toe treading.
I understand that but there will always be undercutting in window cleaning or any other business, if you stamp out one of them there will always be another that comes along.
Title: Re: East Sussex/West Sussex
Post by: MSTAV on May 21, 2009, 10:27:54 am
i had this too it was a company called ezy clean. i think its a frachise company. loads of my customers have been approached on phone for cheaper prices. Yes business is business but what anoys me is how they can give a verbal price over the phone. Well  i didnt lose any customers so i must be doing something right hey.

Mick
Title: Re: East Sussex/West Sussex
Post by: R W C on May 21, 2009, 09:03:53 pm
This is called business ! ! !

The bit that annoys me and others is the asking the custy what tehy currently pay, this is wrong, what goes around comes around, so if i was to take that contract away from you thats in my area as i know the price would you say oh its alright its only business, i just wouldnt do it as id rather get my own work and price my own price.
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Post by: martinsadie on May 21, 2009, 09:06:22 pm
sounds like a range war kicking off  ;D ;D
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Post by: andyatkinson on May 21, 2009, 09:08:28 pm
east side west side, innit ;)
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Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on May 21, 2009, 09:51:04 pm
You can try to take my job if you want but you will have problems cleaning it with no legs
Title: Re: East Sussex/West Sussex
Post by: R W C on May 21, 2009, 09:54:54 pm
You can try to take my job if you want but you will have problems cleaning it with no legs


Its called business  ;D

Never cleaned with my legs, ill have to try that one
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Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on May 21, 2009, 09:55:39 pm
 ;D
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Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on May 21, 2009, 10:02:38 pm
 yeah give it a go, they shouldnt come out any worse than they already do.
 ;D  ;D
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Post by: borg on May 21, 2009, 10:39:08 pm
 i wonder if thats the same comp that my custs had phone calls from but my custys told them  they r happy with me.
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Post by: EZclean on May 22, 2009, 12:11:09 am
i'm down in worthing on tues to clean all the houses i got for a £5/clean
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Post by: chris@c.m.s on May 22, 2009, 01:04:53 am
Oh Worthing that's local would you like to meet for a coffee  ;D strangely enough we did have a guy offering £5 a clean a while back ::)
Title: Re: East Sussex/West Sussex
Post by: SonOfFormby on May 22, 2009, 12:53:26 pm
What do you guys think of this

 I had a leaflet through door a few days ago:

 trad bucket and cloth window cleaning

1 bed: £5.50

2 bed: £6.00

3 bed: £6.50

4 bed: £7.50

Conservatories, price to be negotiated!  (yes exclaimation mark)

THE FULL CLEAN

windows, frames, conservatory
& conservatory roof

Prices starting from £20

I live on the South Coast where I think pricing is quite high. Oh and he offers grass cutting on same piece of paper.

Lee
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Post by: martinsadie on May 22, 2009, 02:46:04 pm
yeah give it a go, they shouldnt come out any worse than they already do.
 ;D  ;D
they could be better  ;D ;D
Title: Re: East Sussex/West Sussex
Post by: EZclean on May 23, 2009, 12:44:07 am
Oh Worthing that's local would you like to meet for a coffee  ;D strangely enough we did have a guy offering £5 a clean a while back ::)

i'm visiting my parents in Worthing, but need a decent pub to watch United on Weds night, any suggestions?
Title: Re: East Sussex/West Sussex
Post by: chris@c.m.s on May 23, 2009, 07:26:38 pm
I would say probably The Broadwater would be your best bet, well its where I would go anyway.
Stay clear of the Clifton or the Jack horner. 
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Post by: martinsadie on May 23, 2009, 07:29:17 pm
Oh Worthing that's local would you like to meet for a coffee  ;D strangely enough we did have a guy offering £5 a clean a while back ::)

i'm visiting my parents in Worthing, but need a decent pub to watch United on Weds night, any suggestions?
parents drive you to drink then  ;D ;D
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Post by: EZclean on May 25, 2009, 10:33:47 am
the broadwater it is then, thanks for that.  ;)


only need an hour with the parents and i'm needing a drink. lol
Title: Re: East Sussex/West Sussex
Post by: stephen s on May 25, 2009, 12:27:21 pm
This is called business ! ! !

Of course it is.  It just gets a bit more personal in a trade where nearly all the businesses are one man bands.  If it were possible to organise it, I would be happy to team up with 30 window cleaners and do the Burgess Hill company's work for £1 a house until they go broke.  It would only be a day a month each to almost sacrifice.  So I spend a day earning £15 or £20 along with 30 others.  Burgess Hill Co. goes broke.  Then put the prices up to what they should be.  Alternatively, they could leave other people's work alone.
Of course it wouldn't be realistic to organise this but maybe the threat of it could stop the toe treading.





so what did you do before  the likes of tesco's and sainsbury's opened up their superstores and killed off the little corner shops ?   I never hear anyone complain about this as they are far too busy getting their bargain booze and shopping,  but isn't it exactly the same thing ?  the one differnce being is that once this window cleaning company does get established and taken a lot of work off others they WILL put up their prices

Business is Business and as long as a company does everything legal then it is well within its rights to excercise its rights to use telesales to drum up business,  after all it goes on in all parts of the market place.

one thing Ive learned is that these customers don't belong to us just because we clean their windows,  and yes it is hard when we lose customers to undercutting,  but I believe in providing the best possible seervice to my customers and building as best form of loyal relationship as possible to be their preferred supplier.

Those people who don't provide this I feel are more at risk although none of us are exempt from it.
Title: Re: East Sussex/West Sussex
Post by: EZclean on May 25, 2009, 12:59:48 pm
 ???
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Post by: EZclean on May 26, 2009, 03:46:33 pm
who cleans Worthing on here wfp?
wondering who cleans my parents place?
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Post by: chris@c.m.s on May 26, 2009, 04:14:33 pm
Me  ;D  Where are they?
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Post by: EZclean on May 26, 2009, 10:39:03 pm
dolphin lodge off grand avenue
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Post by: chris@c.m.s on May 26, 2009, 11:27:46 pm
I have work close to there but not in Grand ave itself.
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Post by: ryan1 on May 27, 2009, 02:20:39 pm
Is that the big blocks of white flats on the sea front???
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Post by: EZclean on May 27, 2009, 07:06:03 pm
Is that the big blocks of white flats on the sea front???


yeah big ugly thing bud, built facing away from the sea  ???