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Title: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: R W C on May 08, 2009, 07:35:45 pm
http://robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/2009/05/fatal-ladder-fall-for-window-cleaner.html
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: ccmids on May 08, 2009, 07:38:49 pm
what a shame four kids too.
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Dean Aspects on May 08, 2009, 07:39:42 pm
I think its the same window cleaner that has been mentioned on another forum and the sad thing is that the guy had a wfp system and ditched it because of customers complaints this has cost the man his life and it could have been avoided
Still a tragic loss for the family
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: ccmids on May 08, 2009, 07:40:38 pm
they should ban ladders .
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Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 08, 2009, 08:14:03 pm
I think its a wake up call to us all.

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Post by: martinsadie on May 08, 2009, 08:15:57 pm
personally id rather posts like that were banned
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Post by: Mike_G on May 08, 2009, 09:09:21 pm
Thats really sad news.
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Post by: Rob.Hall on May 08, 2009, 09:09:42 pm
Sad story.

Wonder how long it  will be before a 60ft wfp crashes down and seriously injures somebody. Just a thought ????
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Post by: elite mike on May 08, 2009, 10:16:33 pm
personally id rather posts like that were banned

stan  work with me anytime

except next week
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Post by: Neil Williams on May 08, 2009, 10:24:43 pm
personally id rather posts like that were banned

I don't know why I post on here with stupid comments like this but I can't stop myself.
This same person gave the impression that wfp-ing downwards off a 20 foot drop was a solution to doing the job. Idiot
 
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Window Washers on May 09, 2009, 12:08:30 am



That is very sad news and I feel for his family, and only hope the other guys learns from a shocking mistake.
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Lee Pryor on May 09, 2009, 12:18:37 am
Sad story.

Wonder how long it  will be before a 60ft wfp crashes down and seriously injures somebody. Just a thought ????

A 40 ft pole fell on my head this time last year, and gave me concusion. but the worst thing was i also got post-concusion syndrome which took over 8 months to get better, and i can tell you it was an awfull thing to go through, headaches which made me almost blind and sick 3-4 times a week every week.
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Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 09, 2009, 08:23:12 am
Sad story.

Wonder how long it  will be before a 60ft wfp crashes down and seriously injures somebody. Just a thought ????

A 40 ft pole fell on my head this time last year, and gave me concusion. but the worst thing was i also got post-concusion syndrome which took over 8 months to get better, and i can tell you it was an awfull thing to go through, headaches which made me almost blind and sick 3-4 times a week every week.

Sad news about the w/c dieing.

Lee - what were the circumstances? Was it left against a wall and fell or what? I know I had a ladder blow over in the wind when I was trad. and fortunately it didn't hit anything. (Left me stranded on an extension roof, mind!)
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Post by: Helen on May 09, 2009, 08:25:41 am
Sad story.

Wonder how long it  will be before a 60ft wfp crashes down and seriously injures somebody. Just a thought ????

A 40 ft pole fell on my head this time last year, and gave me concusion. but the worst thing was i also got post-concusion syndrome which took over 8 months to get better, and i can tell you it was an awfull thing to go through, headaches which made me almost blind and sick 3-4 times a week every week.

I'm sure you did feel awful after that happening to you, but not as awful as the poor guys family is feeling now. You're alive to tell the story.............. and that proves point.

All sympathies go to his family.

If it is right that because of some customer complaints he went back to ladder work, then I hope those customers have learnt from  this too. A few spots maybe or wet on the ground for a while? No contest against life.
As for all the ladderworkers left in the whole wide world, be clever. ONLY use ladders as a last resort. Whether that ladder climb will earn you £5,000,000 or £50 it isn't worth risking your life. Dead...... you earn nothing.

As for reality now in this case, lets hope his insurances pay out to ease the burden on his family.
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Nathanael Jones on May 09, 2009, 10:09:34 am

As for all the ladderworkers left in the whole wide world, be clever. ONLY use ladders as a last resort. Whether that ladder climb will earn you £5,000,000 or £50 it isn't worth risking your life. Dead...... you earn nothing.

Wise words Helen. :(
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 09, 2009, 10:44:44 am
Please start another post if you want to discuss the rights and wrongs of wfp/ladders, please show some respect to the guys family who could be reading this post.

I am going to delete the off track posts
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Lee Pryor on May 09, 2009, 02:27:42 pm
Sad story.

Wonder how long it  will be before a 60ft wfp crashes down and seriously injures somebody. Just a thought ????

A 40 ft pole fell on my head this time last year, and gave me concusion. but the worst thing was i also got post-concusion syndrome which took over 8 months to get better, and i can tell you it was an awfull thing to go through, headaches which made me almost blind and sick 3-4 times a week every week.

Sad news about the w/c dieing.

Lee - what were the circumstances? Was it left against a wall and fell or what? I know I had a ladder blow over in the wind when I was trad. and fortunately it didn't hit anything. (Left me stranded on an extension roof, mind!)

It fell as one of my staff who was using it near me tripped on an uneven pavement and caught me on the top of the head.
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Russell Macdonald on May 09, 2009, 05:59:57 pm
I think its the same window cleaner that has been mentioned on another forum and the sad thing is that the guy had a wfp system and ditched it because of customers complaints this has cost the man his life and it could have been avoided
Still a tragic loss for the family

If its true about customer complaints lets hope the berieved family write to the customers to ask if they
are happy now.
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: martinsadie on May 09, 2009, 09:55:33 pm
personally id rather posts like that were banned

I don't know why I post on here with stupid comments like this but I can't stop myself.
This same person gave the impression that wfp-ing downwards off a 20 foot drop was a solution to doing the job. Idiot
 
my reply got deleted
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: scud on May 09, 2009, 11:23:37 pm
  I recently bought a round of a wc who is retiring after 32 years, he had a nasty fall 4 years ago, he still limps and is in constant pain.

  One of the customers I took dropped me yesterday for a ladder man because she prefers the old way - people are just too selfish and ignorant.

 The most gauling thing is she must be aware of the healthand safety side of things as they own and run a very large company.
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: martinsadie on May 10, 2009, 12:11:21 am
  I recently bought a round of a wc who is retiring after 32 years, he had a nasty fall 4 years ago, he still limps and is in constant pain.

  One of the customers I took dropped me yesterday for a ladder man because she prefers the old way - people are just too selfish and ignorant.

 The most gauling thing is she must be aware of the healthand safety side of things as they own and run a very large company.
if cleaners are using ladders its her chioce to have one
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: tomy jackson on May 10, 2009, 12:28:22 am
yes your so write stan its chose , the only thing id like is for a lot less windys to be falling ??
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Post by: stay white n bright window cleaning service on May 10, 2009, 12:57:14 am
they should ban ladders .

How many people are killed in cars /bikes lets ban them as well
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Moderator David@stives on May 10, 2009, 01:05:33 am
Lets leave the rights and wrongs of ladders on the other post
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on May 11, 2009, 06:08:48 pm
to the guys who have had their WFP fall on them, did you go out and buy hard hats afterwards?
When I clean with my WFP on floors higher than first floor I always use my hard hat, as its not just the pole that could fall on you, but poorly maintained window sills and frames could break and fall, so hard hats are a must.
rather look a fool, than recieve injuries and be out of work for weeks.



Matt
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 12, 2009, 12:22:27 am
to the guys who have had their WFP fall on them, did you go out and buy hard hats afterwards?
When I clean with my WFP on floors higher than first floor I always use my hard hat, as its not just the pole that could fall on you, but poorly maintained window sills and frames could break and fall, so hard hats are a must.
rather look a fool, than recieve injuries and be out of work for weeks.



Matt

You serious Matt? What do you mean by "first floor"?
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: daniel worgan on May 12, 2009, 07:16:01 am
to the guys who have had their WFP fall on them, did you go out and buy hard hats afterwards?
When I clean with my WFP on floors higher than first floor I always use my hard hat, as its not just the pole that could fall on you, but poorly maintained window sills and frames could break and fall, so hard hats are a must.
rather look a fool, than recieve injuries and be out of work for weeks.



Matt

LOL.....i wear padded underwear as well just in case i fall on my arse when it's windy.... ;D
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on May 13, 2009, 04:44:40 pm
Yes I am serious Malc, most industrial jobs require you to wear hard hats..





Matt
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on May 13, 2009, 05:08:27 pm
I thought this post was about a window cleaner who had died???
He obviously ignored safety issues!
to the people that ridiculing the idea of hard hats obviously dont take health and safety that seriously either!!!


Matt

p.s. Malco 1st floor is the one above ground floor lol so I wear hard hat on second floor above.
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on May 13, 2009, 05:12:44 pm
I know you were YWCS
just cant believe people on here going on about the safety of ladders. then laughing at the idea of using safety with poles.




Matt
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: daniel worgan on May 13, 2009, 05:48:58 pm
Matt....sorry if you thought i was taking the pee....well i was but sorry anyway... ;D
What i dont understand is when cleaning above first floor how anything could really come down on you as when i clean 2nd,3rd and 4th occasionally i am at a certain distance from the building that nothing could fall onto me without me noticing...
Perhaps i do it wrong then... :-[
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on May 13, 2009, 05:55:08 pm
Daniel a friend of mine was using a pole and the plastic angle snapped and the stock came crashing down hit the sill on the first floor window and only just missed him. he was standing several metres away from the building.




Matt
Title: Re: W/C comes off ladder
Post by: andyjm1 on May 13, 2009, 07:36:53 pm
Deepest sympathies to the family, a real tragedy. :'( :'(