Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: eddiemac on May 08, 2009, 01:28:11 pm
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Please can anyone tell me, if you were looking at setting up a domestic carpet cleaning company and had £1500 to spend on machine and chemicals, what would you buy and where would you get it. I am favouring prochem machines.
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Something like this from someone with more feedback: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mytee-speedster-450psi-carpet-cleaning-machine_W0QQitemZ160333261168QQ
and spend the rest on marketing.
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Its not just a machine you need
Wand
50ft hoses
hand tool
Sebo BS36
Sebo Duo
Air mover
Chemicals
One-Step Premium Fineline
Prochem Fibre & Fabric Rinse
Prochem Odour Fresh
Powdered Defoamer
Zip It
Zap It
Citrus Gel
Rust Remover
Stain Pro
Coffee Stain Remover
Wineaway
Gluespot
Fabric Restorer
Stainshield Professional
Accessories
5 lt pump up sprayer
1.5L pump-up sprayer
Furniture foil protectors
Polystyrene blocks
Grandi-groomer
Tampico upholstery brush
Trigger Sprays x 2
Sebo BS36 vacuum bags x 10
Carpet sliders
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And the rest.
Another 5lt sprayer
Double Clean
Powerburst
Ultrapac Renovate
Upholstery tool acts as a backup as well to hand tool
A cheapo 2nd hand wand again as a backup
Remember if anyone item of equipment fails then you won't be able to finish it unless you have a spare
and you will look foolish in front of the customer.
Having said that once you have everything in place you rarely have to buy any more equipment for a long while
as the gear tends to last.
John
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E-bay would be your best bet with that budget - there are a few set ups on there at the moment including hoses and wands.
A couple of Ninja's and at least 3 Prochem's.
Steve
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thanks guys
have just seen a prochem powermax 2100 starter kit with 1 x SX2100 Steempro Powermax
1 x AC1021 Glidemaster handtool
1 x AV3101 hose accessory bag
1 x SS4300 8ltr pressure sprayer
1 x ST3401 Tarpaulin
1 x PA3401 18" carpet pile brush
1 x HG3401 Handlefor carpet pile brush
1 x CN3402 30ml dispenser for 5ltr
1 x CN3503W 10ltr white bucket
1 x CN3503r 10ltr red bucket
1 x PR3401 PSK spotting kit
1 x SMP-4C carpet cleaning sample pack
1 x One day prochem training course
Cost £1600
would this be enough to get me started
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Ok here's a deal for you.
3 years into carpet cleaning I now have a Truckmount and two portables. I was going to sell my machine that got me started and made me money (a Ninja) on ebay. But if you are interested I will sell the ninja to you for £500 with hoses but no tools. And you can have soem chems as well. ::)
More importantly if you come and collect it (Bristol way) I will show you how to use it, give you some leaflets of mine for ideas, loads of marketing material and some ways to build your business quickly.
PM me if you are interested.
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Sounds like a good offer Mike - worthy of serious look.
Tools - wand for about £180 and hand tool £100 - unless anyone has anything 2nd hand.
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Could be interested Mike, is the ninja as good as the prochem powermax.
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Mike
can you give me some more details on the machine spec.
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I started in the carpet cleaning industry nearly 20 years ago and im one of the few lucky guys that started with a truckmount. Over the years i have slated portables as they have no wheere near the power of even a basic truckmount HOWEVER, over the past 3 years i have used a few portables & the Ashbys Ninja impressed me. Good solid machine, enough grunt to do a decent job. £500 for that kit sounds like a good deal to me and im sure that someone on this forum could part with a carpet wand & upholstery tool at a good cheap price if you were to ask nicely.
Richie.
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Eddie
I would give thought to the deal as i know dave and he would not sell you anything thats duff mate and you could be unlucky and buy 1 from ebay that might cost. :)
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Clinton
Dave ? ???
You started early on the beer ? ;D
Steve
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Steve ;D
Sory just looking at dave powers e mail and meant to say mike ;D
Not on the beer yet lol.
Must be my age :D
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I'm on the Merlot already ::)
It's the basic spec ninja 135psi, not the most powerful, certainly the Speedster has more grunt.
If you said you had 2.5k to spend I would point you in the direction of Cleansmart. Not because of the kit but because of the backup and marketing package supplied.
I'm a firm believer the true 'Fastrtrack' is a guy with a mission, a crappy portable and solid marketing plan.
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What are the motors in that Mike - I presume 2x something but what? 2 stage or 3 stage.
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Hi Joe
They are 3 stage. In fact one is a bit iffy and I have a new one from woodbridge that I will put in before it's sold. :)
It also has the hot solvent kit. Most people don't bother with it. Others use it on high value work like delicate tapestries, stage curtains and rugs etc.
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thanks for all the advice from everyone, no one has commented whether they think the Prochem Starter Kit is a good deal at £1600, any thoughts?
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Eddie
It is quite a good deal if you have your heart set on new equipment but you only get 1 year warranty on these things so if you can get your hands on a good 2nd hand machine at the sort of money Mike is talking about, then you should give it some serious consideration.
You could then use the balance of your budget and spend it wisely on marketing. You will soon discover that this is far more important than the type of portable you buy.
Fraser
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www.hygcare.co.uk for my money
with machines from only £440 and chems from only £15 call them on 01845255635 or their rep russ on 07800769562
they will help and advise they helped me call me on 0789108738 or my mate allen 07841677267
like me allen has used lots of machines and rates hygicare's range as the best value for money he has seen
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Simon
That machine has a very low powered pump and only holds 7 / 8 litres which would put it in the Numatic George league or thereabouts.
If you want to talk value for money but with reasonable capacity, 135 psi pump and well made the Sabrina Maxi represents excellent value and is capable of achieving a decent result
Can't compete with triple vac's and has less grunt than Mike's ninja but compared to the hygicare machine it's no contest
I would seriously consider the Ninja if I were you
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Simon
The link is "broke", but to be honest at £440 I could not recomend as a main machine - spotter maybe - and thats without seeing it!
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The machine Mike is selling is the same Ninja that we have but ours doesnt have the solvent kit. The pump is only 135psi however it does have a higher flow rate this compensates for the lower psi of the pump. I have cleaned some pretty minging carpets with ours & have some really good results.
Richie.
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Eddie are you starting part time or do you have working capital
what do you have for transport
what training do you need
have you a computer & printer
have you already got any kit thats useful eg: dyson vacuum
Ryan
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Well guy's your all ready to off load ya kit on the poor fellow and the only poster on here is Ryan who has mentioned one of the most important parts of the job in hand. He needs to get on and do soom TRAINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Good point Dave.
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Oh Shhhhhhoot I've just looked at his profile and his down here in my neck of the woods.
Well thats it there's no going back he'll have to have a Truck-mount and be done with it. i can't have cleaners down here with pea shooters. Oh no not me sir!
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i can't have cleaners down here with pea shooters.
thats not what ya wife told me dave. ;D
derek
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derek you have mail
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Cheers Ryan
At the moment I am still thinking of taking the prochem route, which comes complete with a one day training course. So far though have had no feedback as to how good the Prochem machines are. Probably looking at the sx2100 powermax to kick off, any thoughts?
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Dave ;D
Your a top man ;D
long as you aint a utd suporter :P
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Hi Eddie
Prochem machines are reliable but the range is a bit limited, howver not a bad starting machine.
Are you going for one of two vacs, the latter will give you much better performance.
Cheers
Doug
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Hi doug, 2 vacs.
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I started of with a powermax and still use it for top floor flats ect its a good porty if you buy it you will still have to buy the heat & run heater to and thats about £400 if you can afford it you are better buying the Powerflight 1350 its a great porty with plenty of heat and psi.
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Hi Darren
Do you have to have the heater or can you just use hot water.
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Eddie on some jobs you do there wont be any hot water and even if there is hot water if you have the Heat & Run on it makes the water a lot hotter at the wand.
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Eddie
Mentally you have already bought the Powermax, you just don't know it yet.
Just get it and get going or you will be dithering still in July just in time for the summer holiday slump.
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Mike
The holiday slump ;D
Is that the 3 or 4 months one ;D
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I thought it was 6 months. ???
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Mike as many months as that ;)
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Eddie I'd go with Darren's comments as he says he as got the said machine and still useing it to this day. So that sounds like the kit to go with.
When you have bought your machine give me a call and I'll take you out and run you thought the pro's and con's, Hose wise don't buy too much as you will see when you get here I have enough vac and solution hose in 1 1/2" and 2" to run to the coast.
Same with upholstery tools save your money and wait till you have tried a few and again there are enough here to choose from.
there are plenty of bargins on e-bay good luck with your bidding.
Dave
Hope to see you soon.
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Eddie I'd go with Darren's comments as he says he as got the said machine and still useing it to this day. So that sounds like the kit to go with.
When you have bought your machine give me a call and I'll take you out and run you thought the pro's and con's, Hose wise don't buy too much as you will see when you get here I have enough vac and solution hose in 1 1/2" and 2" to run to the coast.
Same with upholstery tools save your money and wait till you have tried a few and again there are enough here to choose from.
there are plenty of bargins on e-bay good luck with your bidding.
Dave
Hope to see you soon.
i'm after a back up wand dave, just in case mine goes down.
if dave or anyones got one i'll be interested.
derek
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Dave
I desperately need another 25 foot of vac and solution hoses if you're interested in selling any, more than happy to collect from you.
Steve
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Steve,
What dia vac hose are you looking for ??
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Dave
1 1/2 for a Nnja mate
Steve
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Steve,
I've got 25' of black flexi hose if that is any use to you.
The old type that extra use, its in good condition it came with a CFR machine and has the solution hose with it.
Any body want a CFR machine Cheap!
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Dave
Long as it sucks and squirts and doesnt leak then it sounds ok - how much ?
Steve
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Is this for the hose ?
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yes mate
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Go on what do you think ;)
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£ 50 ;D
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Bloody hell your keen
I think ya best get in ya van and get here before someone else does!
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Dave
Tied up today - you around mon or tues ? I can drive over and give you cash.
Out for a couple of hours now, text me your number and I'll give you a bell later 07768.648863
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No problem Steve,
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The lowest I'll accept for the CFR is £250 as it needs a top filter were it enters the tank. This can be purchased from Amtex for a reasonable price.
So come on guy's grab yourselves a bargin!
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Dave
Was it you I had a conversation with about inventing a water recycling sytem for a TM.
Actually probably not, but what do you think, it's possible but is it pointless?
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Hi Dave,
Might be interested in the CFR extractor, got any more details or pics?
What model? Specs? How old? Plus how much for a new top filter? (As I've no idea what you mean by this)
Can email me details contact@cleanlivingservices.co.uk
Cheers Paul
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Bump
Not sure if you seen my message Dave.
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Paul you have mail call me after 9 tomorrow ;)
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Hello Dave Ingram
Thanks for your messages, had a demo on the steempro powermax today and think I am going to go with it, although Im not sure it blew me away. Will give you a shout when am up and running as I think it would be beneficial to meet up.
We are going to be doing some innovative marketing soon which might even help you out, if you have any slack periods.
Cheers
Eddie
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Hi Eddie,
I here when your ready mate.
Dave