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Title: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: ladders no more on May 06, 2009, 10:50:57 pm
Thinking of getting a fan jet brush head
Q 1) are they worth getting as any one used one
Q 2) Does any one use both types of brush head
Q 3) not useing one before what advantage has the fan jet over the pencil jet
Q 4) any advice welcome
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: RO-Sheen on May 07, 2009, 04:58:38 pm
I put down pencil jet only because I have only used pencil. What puts me off the fan jet is that the spray comes out over the brush rather than through the bristles. I think this might be a problem when you are cleaning the top of the window frame and the fan is spraying onto the bricks above window. Then you might have the problem of dirty water running down onto the glass.

Some-one correct me if Im wrong!
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: s.w.c on May 07, 2009, 05:05:41 pm
its horses for courses , pencils work well if there are a lot of vents if there is no vents fan jets, i use pencils jets for domestic as i get better control and don't hit the vents, then i have fan jets in my shop front brush fan jets are good for those huge shop windows. some people use fan jets on residential work but not for me though
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: jouk45 on May 07, 2009, 05:13:52 pm
i recently changed over to pencil jets, reason for this is becouse you can control them better over vents, without splashing up into them,
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: Robin Ray on May 07, 2009, 06:09:57 pm
I rinse on the glass so dont find the splashing any problem, but after using both I find pencil jets are better because they give a better cascade of water.

Fan jets seem to be better on facias and gutters though.

Rob
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: ladders no more on May 07, 2009, 06:14:59 pm
Thanks RO-Sheen / S.W.C / jouk45 / robin ray
for your comments its gave me an insite were the differant ways the jets are used
many thanks
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: ccmids on May 07, 2009, 07:32:09 pm
fan jet nothing els will do
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: ladders no more on May 07, 2009, 07:58:08 pm
 Hi ccmids
There is a big favour for pencil jet
do you think the fan jet drys quicker, and does it save water.
do you use the pencil jet at all if so how often do you have to change brush heads
or do you use two poles
thanks
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: FREEMANSCLEANING on May 07, 2009, 08:38:08 pm
i had twin for years never really used the spray much but when i did found it was too slow for rinsing for how i like it but each to their own
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: darragh windows on May 07, 2009, 08:39:18 pm
i use both but slightly prefer pencils, fan jets are good when you turn the pump way up and as for over spray with them you wont get that if you rinse against the glass. i find pencils will splash up to the top just as easy when lifted off the glass although others will dissagree. there was a video on here a while back showing the difference of the two in action
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: ladders no more on May 07, 2009, 09:04:38 pm
Thanks Freeman and darrragh
some more good points to look at
Another question I have is is there less water on peoples paths so there is less of a slip hazzard
when useing a fan jet
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: jouk45 on May 07, 2009, 10:18:47 pm
i never found much of a diffrence the amount of water left on the ground using fans, just the same really
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: ladders no more on May 07, 2009, 10:33:45 pm
Thank`s   Jouk45
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 07, 2009, 10:43:08 pm
Used both - prefer fan - on the rare occasions I need more accuracy I turn the flow low and a weak pencil jet emerges.
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: ladders no more on May 07, 2009, 10:51:47 pm
TX Malc
So do you carry two poles with you or do you change brush heads

Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 07, 2009, 11:00:44 pm
TX Malc
So do you carry two poles with you or do you change brush heads


No - I have a tap on my belt which lets me turn the pressure down so that the fan jet turns into a very low pressure pencil jet and I can use it when necessary.

Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: borg on May 08, 2009, 12:02:38 am
FAN
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: FREEMANSCLEANING on May 08, 2009, 08:25:37 am
i used to have a tap on each of my three poles now i only have 1 on the hose reel ..only one to replace then when it falls aart instead of 3  ;)
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: ladders no more on May 08, 2009, 10:02:01 pm
Thanks FREEMAN
One vale sound sence thax for that
thanx Borg
Question haw many window cleaners have you asimalated to WFP LOL
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: [GQC] Tim on May 08, 2009, 10:11:30 pm
Pencil, you can't accurately rinse with a fan jet, so no go for me. Pencil jets I find are the most versatile.
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: Window Washers on May 09, 2009, 12:39:44 am
Pencil jets for all poles bar a fascia brush and pole, fans are to sloppy IMO could be dodgy fans as only tried them on one pole and put me right off
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: Slash on May 10, 2009, 10:11:47 am
I use fan jets all the time,better and quicker for rinseing on both types off glass,I just can't get on with pencil jets as they seem to take ages rinseing on windows that bead,fan jets however need more attention especially on the top part of the window when rinseing but can get perfect results with a bit of practice,I find they save water and give a proper rinse on both type of windows,I have a tap on my hose connected to my belt that saves even more water.
Pencil and fan jets are a preverence thing but I can't get on with the pencil ones ;)
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: Window Washers on May 10, 2009, 05:21:12 pm
I use fan jets all the time,better and quicker for rinseing on both types off glass,I just can't get on with pencil jets as they seem to take ages rinseing on windows that bead,fan jets however need more attention especially on the top part of the window when rinseing but can get perfect results with a bit of practice,I find they save water and give a proper rinse on both type of windows,I have a tap on my hose connected to my belt that saves even more water.
Pencil and fan jets are a preverence thing but I can't get on with the pencil ones ;)
Did you start out with fans ?
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: Slash on May 10, 2009, 05:42:40 pm
I use fan jets all the time,better and quicker for rinseing on both types off glass,I just can't get on with pencil jets as they seem to take ages rinseing on windows that bead,fan jets however need more attention especially on the top part of the window when rinseing but can get perfect results with a bit of practice,I find they save water and give a proper rinse on both type of windows,I have a tap on my hose connected to my belt that saves even more water.
Pencil and fan jets are a preverence thing but I can't get on with the pencil ones ;)
Did you start out with fans ?
No,
I started with pencil jets and fan jets were recommended to me and the first time I started using them I was hooked!
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: ladders no more on May 10, 2009, 05:52:50 pm
Thanks for your coments chaps
some who comented on here say the fan spray distorts on the bristels
what brush head do you use
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: easycleaner on May 10, 2009, 06:17:18 pm
I use pencil, dont see any reason to change, maybe its what you are used too? Maybe you should use one or the other for different jobs? Just dont know.
Mart.
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: Clive McDonald on May 10, 2009, 06:44:22 pm
If you need to work at speed, then fans rinse on, high flow and hot.

If you've got all day, pencils.
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: Slash on May 10, 2009, 07:07:36 pm
I have fan jets in Vikan brushes and the water does not get in contact with the bristles in any way when rinseing.
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: ladders no more on May 10, 2009, 10:32:35 pm
All these differnt views and differnt ways there used  :-\ :-\ :-\
to get one or not to get one that is the question is the pen-cil mighter than the fan
thanks for responce great feed back on this subject  8)
Title: Re: Pencil jet or fan jet
Post by: ladders no more on May 10, 2009, 10:42:09 pm
I use pencil, dont see any reason to change, maybe its what you are used too? Maybe you should use one or the other for different jobs? Just dont know.
Mart.
From the comments on here Easy you do need both types
although the poll is a landslide towards the pencil jet im suprised that alot use fan jets
maybe like me EASYCLEANER you should give them a go it might change your mind   :P