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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: williamx on May 06, 2009, 05:01:26 pm

Title: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: williamx on May 06, 2009, 05:01:26 pm
I have for the last 25 odd years been using HWE but I am now getting too old and I am thinking about going with Dry Fusion instead.

Most of my clients are domestic but I do have commercial as well, these are either Lap Dancing Clubs ::) or Night Clubs and Resturants as well as a few Nursing Homes and offices.

What are the positives and negatives I can expect to come across.
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: gwrightson on May 06, 2009, 05:06:01 pm
The positive,

cleaning the lap dancing clubs,

The negatives ,

cleaning the nursing homes ;) ;D

Seriously, I would have thought you would need to keep your options open , horses for course and not just stick to one , but no doubt some fusioneers will disagree.

geoff
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Amethyst on May 06, 2009, 05:18:06 pm
I used to think that HWE was everything but now am more in favour of the horses for courses approach. Sometimes HWE sometimes rotary. One thing I do think is that neither is suitable for use in every case.
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Robert Watson on May 06, 2009, 05:32:46 pm
Hi Ian. Hope enjoyed your visit to Edinburgh on Sunday.
Was good to meet you and your good lady. Sorry about all the hills, hope Bernadette was OK.
Cheers fir the beers. Yum Yum. ;)
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Ken Wainwright on May 06, 2009, 06:29:07 pm
I love my "Little Red Fire Engine".  Dry Fusion earns me loads of cash and does a great job. Even jobs you think wouldn't be possible this side of a good rinse/extraction set up.

There are limits however.  The system is designed to clean between 10 and 20 sqM per pad. In a residential environment, after moving furniture to the middle of the room or wherever, it's not unusual to find that you are cleaning an area of, lets say, 3 sqM.  This will mean that you are, relatively speaking, overwetting the the carpet so you loose the 30 minute drying advantage, and you product cost can therefore go through the roof. The same applies to other LM systems too.

I know what you mean by getting older and the stamina issues, so have you though about working smarter rather than harder?

Safe and happy cleaning :)
The Ken

Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Mike Osbourne on May 06, 2009, 06:34:56 pm
Smarter rather than harder?

Can you give examples Ken?
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: richie on May 06, 2009, 07:26:58 pm
Both Dry Fusion & HWE have a place in the carpet cleaning sector.  Dry fusion would b ideal for alot of domestic work, low profile carpet tiles, hotel corridor & so on.  I have cleaned more night clubs than most on these forums & would not use anything other than HWE in that situation the same applies for nursing homes.  Both require DEEP cleaning & only HWE can give this.  My advice to you is to keep the HWE system & buy the Dry Fusion system.  You should find that you will be able to complete many jobs with the DF making life easier but as ive said....Night clubs, nursing homes will require HWE.

Richie.
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Amethyst on May 06, 2009, 08:25:53 pm
Hi Rabby

Loved your city and thanks a million for the tour. Bernie was fine - she might be small but she's tough!
Chat to you soon about matters web.

Regards Buddy

Ian
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: robert meldrum on May 06, 2009, 08:54:07 pm
There's also the Craftex Thermadry ................no idea how good it is.
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: derek west on May 06, 2009, 08:58:41 pm
both methods work fantastic if used together, i do all my commercial work as hwe followed by a good bonnetting. getting a lot more work quoting the 2 together.
derek
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Mike Roper on May 06, 2009, 09:19:52 pm
I dont think in terms of hwe verses d/f , they are both good systems in their place.
If you can have both on hand to choose from. Some may dis df but I have had this system from day one when Brian Philbin was with Shaun and wouldnt be without it ,and customers love it. You would be suprised at the results from it.
Having said that I dont think its the ideal system for nightclubs unless they are done on a regular basis, but put it in the office type envioronment and it cant be beaten.
With the new pure fusion its halved the product cost aswell.
I'm sure guys who use other lm systems could give their views on them .
Mike 
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Ken Wainwright on May 06, 2009, 10:03:07 pm
I agree 100% with Richie. The licensed/club/restaurant sector needs rinse/extraction as a front line system, and preferably a truckmount if you are serious about it.  LM systems can be used occasionally for periodic cleans in some cases though.

Mike, as for working smarter rather than harder, this takes many different paths and can be different for each of us. Some of the things that I, and many others have done are: mechanical agitation, suites in the morning only, maximum of two jobs a day, maybe three if minimum charge, don't travel from one side of town to the other keeping the days work in one area, if you have to work weekends, make sure you have time off in the week to compensate etc. etc. etc.  There's lots of little things you can do that will make a big difference to your day.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken

 
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Mike Osbourne on May 06, 2009, 10:11:42 pm
Makes a lot of sense Ken.
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: clinton on May 06, 2009, 11:11:47 pm
Like that too ken :)
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Ryan Smyth on May 07, 2009, 04:20:10 am
Clinton are you a forum junkie? thousands of posts and f*** all constructive to say!!!
I assume others may have picked up on this,but are a bit apprehensive to mention it?
Sweet Jesus there are no £££s for posts >:( >:( >:(

RANT OVER
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: mark_roberts on May 07, 2009, 12:48:29 pm
5297 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Is your TV broken??

Ryan

How long have you been in business.  Only 179 posts youve a bit of catching up to do!!

Mark
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Buster Ingram on May 07, 2009, 12:58:25 pm
Ryan
Didn't you know Clinton was a one line wonder
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: clinton on May 07, 2009, 01:50:51 pm
Ryan

 ;D

And theres you Posting at 4 20 in a morn ;D

Just dont read my posts if it bothers you so much numptie ;D





Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: robert meldrum on May 08, 2009, 12:40:25 pm
Leave Clinton alone Ryan he's a pleasant individual who likes to chat................what's wrong with that ?

Not that he needs anyone to speak for him !!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Ryan Smyth on May 08, 2009, 02:11:10 pm
First off I would like to apologise to Clinton, I was talking through my a*se. As an explanation I had been up all night with my young son who was ill and I was in a crap mood and looking for someone to pick on basically. This in no way condones what I posted and I hope Clinton who seems like a nice guy can accept my apology.

Ryan
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Amethyst on May 08, 2009, 03:40:59 pm
I'm sure no-one on hear will take offence at what I see as being fairly mild abuse. I found it quite amusing! Hope your youngster is on the mend Ryan and that a good nights sleep are ahead. It takes a genuine guy to apologise.

PS: Next time I'm over I'll hold you to that beer!!
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Amethyst on May 08, 2009, 03:43:31 pm
Only 5220 posts to go for me then (Assuming Clinton stops!!!!) Only joking guys!!
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Ryan Smyth on May 08, 2009, 05:06:54 pm
No problem Ian, give me a shout when your over ;)

Ryan
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: clinton on May 08, 2009, 05:10:59 pm
Hi ryan

Hope your young sons on the mend mate.

Thanks for the apolgogy dont wory about it we have all done it.Hey am big enough and ugly enough(well not ugly)To take it have had worse lol.

Thanks robert.

cheers

clinton




Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Joe H on May 08, 2009, 05:14:03 pm
Hey am big enough and ugly enough(well not ugly)
clinton

Your big and ugly.  ;D
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Ryan Smyth on May 08, 2009, 05:39:26 pm
Cheers Clinton.
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: clinton on May 08, 2009, 05:44:03 pm
No probs ryan
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Mike Osbourne on May 08, 2009, 05:55:20 pm
Clinton  ;D

Ryan  ;D

etc etc  ;D
Title: Re: DryFusion v HWE
Post by: Doctor Carpet (Ret'd) on May 08, 2009, 06:32:02 pm
Can I just increase my post count by one?

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D