Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JSMC on May 03, 2009, 06:37:39 pm
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now cleaned them 3 times and still seeing drip/spots on them. Also in certain light some othe rmarks. i have scrubbed and rinsed loads on them but still some marks.
look great when just finished but once dry marks on them etc
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whats your tds
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Just done my kitchen windows - really good scrub and rinse, been cleaning them wfp for two and a half years and i've just seen a small run of spots. Drives me nuts but nobody else in the house will notice. Anyone who claims to do a perfect job (and there are loads on here) are having a laugh.
Try and do a first clean in one pass - it just can't be done unless your standards are pretty low.
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So given that alot of use do our own and can see imperfections how is it that month after month...our custy's keep paying up?
Cheers
Dave.
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i rush around my house cleaning the windows (stupidly fast) and i promise every window is spotless but up until about 3 cleans ago there was always 1 (landing) window that had spots when dry, got really annoying but sorted it out now by rinsing right from the top over the cross bar right too the bottom now all are perfect everytime.
kris
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So given that alot of use do our own and can see imperfections how is it that month after month...our custy's keep paying up?
Cheers
Dave.
My guess is that most Trad cleans have imperfect results too. I've watched several trad cleaners wipe down the edges (detailing) very fast with a scrim flapping a couple of inches on to the pane - it has to leave a slight smear.
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I would challenge any wfp cleaner to leave a perfect house. I've seen others work and I can always find a run of spots somewhere. :)
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I do 2 houses (thankfully relatives) that always spot and I've been doing them 2 1/2 years :o
Even my own windows occasionally end up with the odd spot, but it's only visible when the sun shines through it, or maybe I'm just crap ;D
As has been said I don't think 99% of customers are bothered about imperfect results and just keep paying up month after month.
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You can make far more of a mess with a squeeggee than you can with the pole,as long as you know what your doing with the pole you should always do a better than average job.
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are you sure your useing pure water ?
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my windows are always spot free (completely) an i do them within 5 mins :o
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i think its balloks about them staying cleaner for longer too, always clean my own wfp and they are dirty in about two weeks last time i done the bottem only trad and they are still clean four weeks later,
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i think its balloks about them staying cleaner for longer too, always clean my own wfp and they are dirty in about two weeks last time i done the bottem only trad and they are still clean four weeks later,
about 80% of windows i clean do stay cleaner longer.
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On certain parts of the house they stay cleaner,the rain removes the dirt easier than when using soap.
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On certain parts of the house they stay cleaner,the rain removes the dirt easier than when using soap.
there is no doubt that the windows definately stay cleaer longer, not all windows but the vast majority do..
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i did a school yesturday.... its only done 4 times a year, and i can honestly say the windows are still quite clean .....the first clean took nearlt 2 hours.... but yesturday i did it in less than an hour ....
if i had to do it trad, the windows would be a lot dirtier, and it would take about 3 hrs .... (and i was trad for 12 years before i switched to wfp)....there is just no comparison 8)
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I have to agree with others here...I would challange anyone to say hand on heart ( and it be true of course) that they can clean houses day in day out and they are perfect...
Maybe if you had all the time in the world and you would be prepared to wait until they all dryed then could examine them both inside and out...and rectify any little issues.
A good job is all that we can provide but perfection...sorry...no chance.
There seems to be alot more 'tall tales' this spring than last year...is there something in the water???
Cheers
Dave.
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i think trad and wfp its hard to get absolutely perfect results, when using trad i often found that if you left a mark in the middle of the window with a squeegee and went to wipe off with the cleanest dryest scrim you would be hard pushed not to leave some kind of smeary mark and would often be easier to just soap up and do again, i think imo scrims do leave marks and because when you dont leave any marks you only use them for detailing the edges and theyre just not so noticable there.
ive had the odd custie complain about wfp now which is hilarious for some of them coz i know for them its a much better job coz i couldnt reach all parts of top lights etc when trad coz just too high or knew that leaded or georgian chances are there would be smears somewhere if you really looked.
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tds from tap 28 then into di which comes out 0. In some light the window looks perfect but as sun moves you then see the marks.
i ama fussy git also.
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The ultimate challenge for any window cleaner is to clean his car windows inside and out. I can never do it perfectly, always a mark or two somewhere.
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People have tried cleaning their own windows with a squegee and have then realised its not as easy as it looks and then in turn dont mind paying someone who has the knack of a squegee to do it but when people see someone cleaning their windows with a big brush with water they think wow what the hell am i paying someone £7-£20 to walk round my house for 5-10 minutes with a brush and some water because lets face it a monkey could use wfp
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People have tried cleaning their own windows with a squegee and have then realised its not as easy as it looks and then in turn dont mind paying someone who has the knack of a squegee to do it but when people see someone cleaning their windows with a big brush with water they think wow what the hell am i paying someone £7-£20 to walk round my house for 5-10 minutes with a brush and some water because lets face it a monkey could use wfp
If that`s the case there`s a few round my way that arn`t as clever as moneys then cos there`s some terrible WFPolers out there giving us good 1`s a bad name.
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I clean the windows on a department store 3 times a week and in the early spring the sun shines through and they look less than perfect. The sunlight is very unforgiving.
If a customer has in issue they will always tell you if your relationship with them is good.
Don't worry too much. It's got to be better than going around with a smelly bucket of water, full of dirt from off all the other houses' windows. ;D
Oh no what have I said!
Wait for it!
;D
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it annoys me when you have to do the insides as then you really see how good/bad the outside is, and i spend ages going outside to redo edges and stuff :( But like you lot say its prob just me that spots it as i never have complaints :)
Had on last week first time in ages and it was from when we had that really hot weather a few weeks ago and i must ve left something that really got shown up in the sun light - only bad thing about good weather!!
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There is a guy near me and his website reads "Water Fed Pole Specialist",I did work with him on a big job one day and I'm no God on a pole but my work was alot better than his,he does'nt even rinse! ???
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Go trad
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Its no good just saying there are spots. You have to identify the spots and where they come from.
Typical example - A run of small white spots going vertically down from the top. This is a typical drip mark from the frame above the glass. It also indicates the frame is slightly milky.
In my experience (3 years now) most marks are caused by drips off the frame and the paint breaking down.