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Title: Accountants fees
Post by: combat1 on April 30, 2009, 11:29:54 am
Hi, Can anyone give me an idea of the cost of an accountant to do the self assessment form for a sole trader, no employees, no vat.
First year of business, part time turnover around 10k.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: karygate on April 30, 2009, 11:35:03 am
mine costs me about 250 but some do it cheaper than that. worth it though.
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: Niall McAllister on April 30, 2009, 11:49:03 am
get in touch with your local tax office and find out about their self assessment workshop. if you are sole trader, it is easy to do it yourself. if you have all your recepts and all your earnings it's easy to do it yourself online. the workshop just steers you in the right direction.
it's so easy an idiot can do it, I know this cause i've done mine (put that in before anyone else does) ;D
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy) on April 30, 2009, 12:00:42 pm
140 quid per year.........corporate accountant.......well worth it, you could do it your self yes, but if you are like me and have no idea about capital depreciations, loss adjustments etc etc then you are better to have a professional look at them for you.
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: Niall McAllister on April 30, 2009, 12:04:12 pm
140 quid per year.........corporate accountant.......well worth it, you could do it your self yes, but if you are like me and have no idea about capital depreciations, loss adjustments etc etc then you are better to have a professional look at them for you.
did i not just say it is Scrim i mean idiot proof ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy) on April 30, 2009, 12:16:01 pm
yada yada yada........look at me, i am so clever :-X i did it myself :-X   :D

i have never seen inside a tax office, and have no intention of starting now  ::)
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: Niall McAllister on April 30, 2009, 12:20:30 pm
mine was up at the novotel in the city centre, even said we could claim it on  expences :P
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy) on April 30, 2009, 12:22:17 pm
how much did you pay niall?
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: Niall McAllister on April 30, 2009, 12:31:13 pm
just parking, and the getting there. workshop itself is free. for the sake of 3hrs it's good
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy) on April 30, 2009, 12:32:20 pm
nice one ;)
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: Niall McAllister on April 30, 2009, 12:33:13 pm
mind you parking in the town nearly bankrupted me :o :o :o
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: GWCS on April 30, 2009, 02:04:09 pm
mind you parking in the town nearly bankrupted me :o :o :o

im sure you could have claimed that back as a business expense!  ;)
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: collins82002 on April 30, 2009, 03:32:20 pm
get in touch with your local tax office and find out about their self assessment workshop. if you are sole trader, it is easy to do it yourself. if you have all your recepts and all your earnings it's easy to do it yourself online. the workshop just steers you in the right direction.
it's so easy an idiot can do it, I know this cause i've done mine (put that in before anyone else does) ;D

Just booked a tax workshop course and its free, cant be bad
 ;D
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: Dean Aspects on April 30, 2009, 03:46:46 pm
My accountant is £115 i do out all my reciepts he does the rest and claims for stuff that i have no idea about and all manner of other things i dont or cant be bothered to understand for me its money well spent and leaves me free to do things much more interesting like posting on forums for example
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: martinsadie on April 30, 2009, 05:33:07 pm
mines £175  ;D
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: LWC on April 30, 2009, 05:36:37 pm
Mine was £500 last year  :o

Not sure why as it was £300 year before, i need to query it at some point.
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: S.A.J on April 30, 2009, 05:41:15 pm
Last year £1800   :o :'( Accountant SACKED  ;D

New accountant this year £500-£600  :)

Stuart
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: martinsadie on April 30, 2009, 05:41:36 pm
Mine was £500 last year  :o

Not sure why as it was £300 year before, i need to query it at some point.
i would have asked before paying  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: dave0123 on April 30, 2009, 06:03:19 pm
£230 mine last year
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: Window Washers on April 30, 2009, 06:12:14 pm
Sod doing accounts myself, far to much ball ache that will cost you over time, accountants no there business we know ours, unless you are an accountant thats come into window cleaning I would recommend getting one, business is stressful enough, they are cheap compared to the time it takes to do your own. did I say sod doing accounts myself!
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: seandyer2003 on April 30, 2009, 06:27:26 pm
one or two days wages a year isnt bad is it if they save you some hassle :)

If you can do them yourself thats great but i dont have the energy to even try when im not working outside i aint doing books 

Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: GWCS on April 30, 2009, 06:36:20 pm
I wonder if the local council give window cleaning lessons to the public?

They then wouldn't need to use us :P

Seriously its all about your personal choice, i use an accountant as i dont want to deal with it myself - just like my customers dont want to clean their own windows and pay me to do it - it what makes the world go round.

supply and demand.
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: Window Washers on April 30, 2009, 06:38:23 pm
I wonder if the local council give window cleaning lessons to the public?

They then wouldn't need to use us :P

Seriously its all about your personal choice, i use an accountant as i dont want to deal with it myself - just like my customers dont want to clean their own windows and pay me to do it - it what makes the world go round.

supply and demand.
So true.........
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: kenaltobelli on April 30, 2009, 08:17:10 pm
£750 sacked this years £250 jobs a goodun
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: boshravie on April 30, 2009, 08:49:50 pm
Mine charged me £850.00 this year :o :o
And he say because I am a limited company and more paper work involved, he also said few years ego that if I go limited I pay less tax.
Is that true guys? ???

Regards, Bosh

Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: leapstallbuildings on May 01, 2009, 09:32:34 am
I paid £243 last year.  I'm a sole trader and I make it pretty easy for him.
It will be £243 this year to as he has announced a price freeze.
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: Helen on May 01, 2009, 02:37:16 pm
Hi, Can anyone give me an idea of the cost of an accountant to do the self assessment form for a sole trader, no employees, no vat.
First year of business, part time turnover around 10k.
Thanks.

You'll get so many different answers on here. Look in your local area and find some that specialises in small businesses.Get quotes and take your pick. Our charges £75 per hour, but we get it all ready for him and he just does the nitty gritty bits that we don't know about :)
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: combat1 on May 01, 2009, 07:55:43 pm
Thanks everyone, very helpful.
Called to see a local accountant today, who was amazed at the information which I could give him from George, almost indicated that I didnt need him!
Wants to charge £150 for the year.
Also rang the tax office to book on a self assessment course for July.
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: collins82002 on May 02, 2009, 10:26:30 am
Using george what do i use to give to accountant?
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: Nathanael Jones on May 02, 2009, 11:19:04 am
I paid €600 my first year in business, but that includes registering me for tax and all the initial setup hassle,... €400 per year after that. Worth every cent to have rid of that stress & hassle!
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: elite mike on May 02, 2009, 11:30:19 am
I paid €600 my first year in business, but that includes registering me for tax and all the initial setup hassle,... €400 per year after that. Worth every cent to have rid of that stress & hassle!

yeh i second that

been in cleaning over 28 years and always used an accountant

saved me a lot of money over the years< and stress > ;)
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: Nathanael Jones on May 02, 2009, 11:46:10 am
I reckon if i tried to do it myself it would take up 2 weeks of evenings, mostly trying to translate the forms into a language I can understand. After its all finished I'd still be worride that I'd filled in something wrong. The peace of mind is worth the money,.. and my accountant found loads of stuff I should have claimed for and hadn't too,.. so she actually saved me more than she charged me the first year!
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: sparklebright on May 02, 2009, 08:27:42 pm
Mine charged me £850.00 this year :o :o
And he say because I am a limited company and more paper work involved, he also said few years ego that if I go limited I pay less tax.
Is that true guys? ???

Regards, Bosh



I'm limited but mine charged £600 plus vat.
He is good though, got my driveway done, as I have to park my van on it, and it knackered the old one. The company paid and after 5 years there would be no capital gain, as the company leases the land off me as a director. Something like that, can't remember exactly and don't need to either.
Result!!

Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: boshravie on May 02, 2009, 09:02:42 pm
[I'm limited but mine charged £600 plus vat.
He is good though, got my driveway done, as I have to park my van on it, and it knackered the old one. The company paid and after 5 years there would be no capital gain, as the company leases the land off me as a director. Something like that, can't remember exactly and don't need to either.
Result!!

Thats interesting.

Bosh
Title: Re: Accountants fees
Post by: Pureandclean on May 02, 2009, 09:49:56 pm
As your turnover is lessthan £15,000 you just have to fill in the simple account section on the tax form, which asks for your Turnover, expenses and therefore gross profit.
When you turnover more than £15,000 you will need to fill the whole form in, and that is when an accountant becomes helpfull.