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Title: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: ftp on April 28, 2009, 06:26:54 pm
I bought a bottle of Oilflow 101 expecting marvelous things after reading all the claims.
I have to say that so far it's rubbish - can't even shift sellotape marks from upvc. I reckon todays cleaners are so eco friendly and namby pamby that they are just about useless. I also have a bottle of mineral deposit remover that cost me close on thirty quid. I reckon a £2.50 bottle of killrock or harpic would work far better. ::)
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: lee_dewing on April 28, 2009, 07:11:28 pm
the only thing that impressed me was crystal clear from window clean centre, shifted stains  on glass from concrete surround, heavy limescale deposits!

anything else i think you'd be better off with household products
doktor power is really good £5 biggish tub, made by jml woolworths use to sell :(  there website has an add i'm sure

that might be worth you investing in cleans upvc pretty well, lime lite for most limescale marks, or crystal clear 550 as mentioned hope this info helps
thanks lee
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: matt on April 28, 2009, 08:00:27 pm
I also have a bottle of mineral deposit remover that cost me close on thirty quid. I reckon a £2.50 bottle of killrock or harpic would work far better. ::)

i dont see why people pay silly money for mineral deposit remover,loads of linescale remover on the market for under 5 quid a bottle,  just spray a little on your brush and brush on

job done
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: ftp on April 28, 2009, 08:26:12 pm
ermm......... it was crystal clear that I bought. Wrecked one window with the stuff and have been pretty unimpressed on others to be honest.
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: macmac on April 28, 2009, 08:54:02 pm
Don't know about being too safe but it's just how many things are these days- A DIRTY BIG FAT CON!!!!!!!!!.

You won't come across many things that live up to their own marketing hype I'm affraid.

Look at GG3- they list a multitude of benefits for this product- kind to hands, less blead, rubber just glides across the glass, rubber lasts longer etc.etc. All total crap & just not true. The only thing it does better is make a nice gleam on the glass.

Look at spray-on bath cleaning products- spray on, rinse off, job done! What a load of lies. I've never used one to this day that doesn't also require scrubbing with a sponge. Spray on, rinse off & still be left with a dirty great big tide-mark! The worst thing is, I still buy it! ;D
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: lee_dewing on April 28, 2009, 08:55:24 pm
oops, sorry just see oil flow in your post :)
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: ftp on April 28, 2009, 08:59:06 pm
Clean the Bath?
Tony, how's that resin going? I need some so might try some of that highland variety.
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: macmac on April 28, 2009, 09:03:15 pm
Clean the Bath?
Tony, how's that resin going? I need some so might try some of that highland variety.

Yes, anually. ;D

Deffo recommend the northern stuff Dave. up to now it's out-performing dowex quite well but I've not done the whole bag yet so I don't want to spout too much but between me & you, go north! ;)
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on April 28, 2009, 09:10:18 pm
I recently used brick acid on a very badly stained window (20% Hydrochloric acid). Dirt cheap and it worked a treat. Need Gloves, goggles etc when using it tho.
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: john tomkins on April 28, 2009, 09:10:23 pm
ermm......... it was crystal clear that I bought. Wrecked one window with the stuff and have been pretty unimpressed on others to be honest.

How did you manage to wreck the window?
I use crystal clear and have found it the only product to shift stains that all others, mdr/cillit bang etc wouldn't touch
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: ftp on April 28, 2009, 09:29:15 pm
Easy, applied it to an old single pane and it turned it milky - the pane next to it was fine so it had to be a different type of glass it was on an old building.
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: bad trippy on April 28, 2009, 09:47:17 pm
I bought a bottle of Oilflow 101 expecting marvelous things after reading all the claims.
I have to say that so far it's rubbish - can't even shift sellotape marks from upvc. I reckon todays cleaners are so eco friendly and namby pamby that they are just about useless. I also have a bottle of mineral deposit remover that cost me close on thirty quid. I reckon a £2.50 bottle of killrock or harpic would work far better. ::)
i bought some mineral deposit remover for a tenner from a well known supplier, total rubbish, ive used it on 3 houses and it aint shifted a bean. I also bought the ettore upvc cleaner and reckon good old cif is 10 times better
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: ftp on April 28, 2009, 09:54:16 pm
I use dirt cheap upvc cleaner from Wilkinsons - seems ok.  :)
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on April 29, 2009, 09:02:18 am
I went to GG4 for the switch to wfp to reduce spotting from the seals on the first cleans and carried on with it for my trad. jobs. I've just gone back to fairy for all the permanent trad stuff because it glides so much better.

MDR = rubbish. I've got three quarters of a bottle and it's rubbish - I reckon T-cut is the same sort of stuff (it's got that look and smell about it) I'd try it but I'm nervous of scratching the glass.

Thompson's UPVC restorer - OK but could do better.
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on April 29, 2009, 09:10:15 am
I bought a bottle of Oilflow 101 expecting marvelous things after reading all the claims.
I have to say that so far it's rubbish - can't even shift sellotape marks from upvc. I reckon todays cleaners are so eco friendly and namby pamby that they are just about useless. I also have a bottle of mineral deposit remover that cost me close on thirty quid. I reckon a £2.50 bottle of killrock or harpic would work far better. ::)
i bought some mineral deposit remover for a tenner from a well known supplier, total rubbish, ive used it on 3 houses and it aint shifted a bean. I also bought the ettore upvc cleaner and reckon good old cif is 10 times better

Doesn't CIF scratch/dull the glass at all?
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: ftp on April 29, 2009, 06:59:47 pm
Fleetclean tfr - another pile of **ap! Use it 20 to 1 or even 100 to 1 the label says.
Only works for me if it's mixed 50:50 minimum.
Might work on trucks but it's no good on conservatory roofs at those dilution rates.
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: macmac on April 29, 2009, 09:37:40 pm
Water based external timber protection is the same- Total rubbish!!

Still no safer answer to solvent based. ::)
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: dave0123 on April 29, 2009, 09:50:44 pm
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Look at GG3- they list a multitude of benefits for this product- kind to hands, less blead, rubber just glides across the glass, rubber lasts longer etc.etc. All total crap & just not true. The only thing it does better is make a nice gleam on the glass.

Mac, whats for doses again withe gg3 and squeegue off in the bucket again?

going to give it a go...

cheers
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: macmac on May 01, 2009, 04:52:14 pm
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Look at GG3- they list a multitude of benefits for this product- kind to hands, less blead, rubber just glides across the glass, rubber lasts longer etc.etc. All total crap & just not true. The only thing it does better is make a nice gleam on the glass.

Mac, whats for doses again withe gg3 and squeegue off in the bucket again?

going to give it a go...

cheers

5ml GG3 + 25ml squeegee off in 8 to 10 Ltrs of water.= as a basic guide & just tweek to your own preference. ;)
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: NWH on May 01, 2009, 05:31:40 pm
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Look at GG3- they list a multitude of benefits for this product- kind to hands, less blead, rubber just glides across the glass, rubber lasts longer etc.etc. All total crap & just not true. The only thing it does better is make a nice gleam on the glass.

Mac, whats for doses again withe gg3 and squeegue off in the bucket again?

going to give it a go...

cheers

5ml GG3 + 25ml squeegee off in 8 to 10 Ltrs of water.= as a basic guide & just tweek to your own preference. ;)
I might be wrong here but i read somewhere the other day on here that GG3 is rubbish and a complete waste of money lol. ;D ;D
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: macmac on May 01, 2009, 05:43:41 pm
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Look at GG3- they list a multitude of benefits for this product- kind to hands, less blead, rubber just glides across the glass, rubber lasts longer etc.etc. All total crap & just not true. The only thing it does better is make a nice gleam on the glass.

Mac, whats for doses again withe gg3 and squeegue off in the bucket again?

going to give it a go...

cheers

5ml GG3 + 25ml squeegee off in 8 to 10 Ltrs of water.= as a basic guide & just tweek to your own preference. ;)
I might be wrong here but i read somewhere the other day on here that GG3 is rubbish and a complete waste of money lol. ;D ;D

Yeah, you are wrong. you read that all the extra "alleged" benefits to GG3 were rubbish. The pro's use it for gleam & not for slip etc.! ;)  You must read more carefully in future Nigel. ;)
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: dave0123 on May 01, 2009, 06:28:15 pm
Cheers Mac,

Yeah it does give a good shine i must admit. at first i thought it didn't but after 2 cleans or so it really does shine up.

I think the customer's are more pleased when they see nice shine on the windows too.
Title: Re: modern cleaners too safe?
Post by: NWH on May 01, 2009, 08:51:44 pm
Quote
Look at GG3- they list a multitude of benefits for this product- kind to hands, less blead, rubber just glides across the glass, rubber lasts longer etc.etc. All total crap & just not true. The only thing it does better is make a nice gleam on the glass.

Mac, whats for doses again withe gg3 and squeegue off in the bucket again?

going to give it a go...

cheers

5ml GG3 + 25ml squeegee off in 8 to 10 Ltrs of water.= as a basic guide & just tweek to your own preference. ;)
I might be wrong here but i read somewhere the other day on here that GG3 is rubbish and a complete waste of money lol. ;D ;D

Yeah, you are wrong. you read that all the extra "alleged" benefits to GG3 were rubbish. The pro's use it for gleam & not for slip etc.! ;)  You must read more carefully in future Nigel. ;)
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