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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mark_roberts on April 14, 2005, 10:33:32 pm

Title: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: mark_roberts on April 14, 2005, 10:33:32 pm
As I'm a noisy sort of chap and I get asked this question from new guys, post your drawings on average per annum.

Drawings being after all your business expences have been paid and profit set aside.

thanks
Mark
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: paul@scc on April 14, 2005, 10:35:14 pm
My 1st 9 months and im in the black and money not alot but enough
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: SMP on April 14, 2005, 11:45:37 pm
Profit AND drawings - that's novel!  I must be doing something wrong  ;D.  That depends how much drawings / profit you want.

Surely it would have been better to add profit and drawings together.

Steve
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: darrenlee on April 14, 2005, 11:57:53 pm
smp above does have a good point
maybe it should have been profit including , drawnings
we can all take drawnings out of a buisness, well for so long.
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: mark_roberts on April 15, 2005, 08:09:04 am
What do you mean?

I draw out x per month and set aside y for profit to buy new gear, courses etc.  If theres any left over at the end of the year, after tax then its MINE.

How do you do it?

Mark
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Dynafoam on April 15, 2005, 09:38:02 am
Hi Mark,

Steve and Daren have a point.

Sale value less costs = profit.

Whatever you draw as your 'wage' comes from that profit so if your poll is to make any valid comparison the total profit should be concidered. Otherwise a cleaner who draws £1,000/week and sets aside £1,000  may enter a smaller sum than one with the same profit but 'pays' himself only £400/week and puts nothing aside for re-investment.
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Ken Wainwright on April 15, 2005, 10:43:45 am
I don't think that this topic as it stands has any value. For myself, I've a relatively low turnover but have low business overheads and miniscule personal ones. e.g. mortgage interest £111 per month and no children at home.

A better question would be "What is your disposable income after all bills and commitments have been met". Do you know what Mark? Yes you are noisy, or even nosey, and I ain't gonna tell ya! Suffice to say, I've got a new bike on order, but gotta wait for June delivery, and yes, I will be paying cash for it ;D

Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: magic_carpet on April 15, 2005, 11:37:03 am
right on ken!!!you tell em
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: martin19842 on April 15, 2005, 12:11:54 pm
ken

v strom, nice bike, ive been riding now only for a year, but got a zx6r '97 in January, absolutley lovely bike, and i love it, its just great to get out and blow those cobwebs away, best thing you can t hear the phone ring!!!

so looking forward to a good  sunny dry summer, but first the bmf in May so I'm not working 20th May someone else will have to do that.

have a great weekend

regards

martin
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Ken Wainwright on April 15, 2005, 12:30:03 pm
Hi Martin

Glad to hear we've got another biker on the forums. The ZX6R is an awesome tool.

I've fond memories of going to the Bol d'Or at the Paul Ricard Circuit in '97 and there was a lad in our party who had a then new ZX6R. What a stonker it was  :o

As my trusted Divvie has been sold to make way for the Strom-Trooper, I'm bikeless at present, so wont be going to the BMF Show. It doesn't seem right turning up in a car :( But the BMF is THE place to be for kit bargains.

I have spoken to a few other biking colleagues and manufacturers about doing a charity "End to End" for our industry. The feedback has all been positive. Sadly, due to the late arrival of my new bike, it may not now materialise this year. However, if any interested biker out there has a suitable machine capable of allday cruising at motorway/A road speeds, let me know so that I can get an idea of numbers. Also, for you non-bikers and manufacturers and suppliers, who'd be willing to cough up some sponsorship for a good cause? So far, I've only spoken to one manufacturer, and he's as keen as mustard to be involved. Thanks John ;D

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Dennis on April 15, 2005, 12:40:40 pm
Where there's a will Ken.  ;)

http://www.bikes4rent.co.uk/
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: paul@ctcs on April 15, 2005, 12:41:45 pm
As the weather improves so does my desire for another bike, trouble is the Mrs wont let me, as I would inevitably wind up killing myself  :-[

I have managed to convince her that a motocross bike is completely safe ;D ;D

Paul


Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Ken Wainwright on April 15, 2005, 12:46:44 pm
Thanks Dennis.

Would that be you offering the £400ish for me on top of the sponsorship?  ;)

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Chris Bailey on April 15, 2005, 01:36:38 pm
Bikers poping out of the woodwork all over the place..... Nice bike Ken, too big for me though, can't go over bumps and through mud on one of those, gimme a 125 moto any day!  what's that in my office, well, what do you know its a 125 moto...... (old but road legal and ready for offroad and greenlanin)  HaHAAAAAAaaa here we go!

Chris

ps  Paul, my missus said I could't have one either, keep working at it mate, they always give in at some time or other.
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Dennis on April 15, 2005, 01:48:46 pm
Thanks Dennis.

Would that be you offering the £400ish for me on top of the sponsorship?  ;)

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken

I meant for this bit!  ;D

As my trusted Divvie has been sold to make way for the Strom-Trooper, I'm bikeless at present, so wont be going to the BMF Show. It doesn't seem right turning up in a car

Mind you I could have a look down the side of the sofas for loose change and break the padlock on swmbo's purse when she's at work!
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Don Atkinson on April 15, 2005, 05:13:35 pm
Its usually the age and the mobility of the customer that are the main factors when it comes down to how much you earn, for instance if you had only elderly clients you would most probably earn millions in a very short term, bank runs etc.
For example, elderly client on Tuesday morning, lounge carpet £1300.00, 2hrs work, didn't bat an eye lid, dropped her of at the bank so she could withdraw the money, gave me the money then proceeded to go shopping around town.

RESULT!! :)

don
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Ken Wainwright on April 15, 2005, 05:42:16 pm
All well and good Don, but did you get to take a bath? You'd certainly need it after handling all that dirty money :o

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Don Atkinson on April 15, 2005, 05:49:29 pm
 ;D Must try harder next time ::)
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Ian Gourlay on April 15, 2005, 07:27:53 pm
You may have read in your paper that two carpet cleaners in East Yorkshire mafe 19 million not bad hey. and they laughed when i said I was a carpet cleaner.

However if the PR is true I worked out that the average Chem Dry Franchise turns over "200k and employs 4 people.


Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: gwrightson on April 15, 2005, 08:56:28 pm
Ian  , quite correct  in your readings, and there giving away a good % to the mormon church
  p. s.  you do know M. hallidays from e.yorks ;D  am i ok for a loan Mike ;D
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: paul@scc on April 15, 2005, 09:42:50 pm
I had a bike once a raliegh chopper lol
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: mark_roberts on April 15, 2005, 10:40:29 pm
Far points on the profit issue.  Maybe I'm too regimented.

Also a crap speller and thats why i'm not an English teacher.  Anyway Ken, the people that voted are cant be wrong.

According to Payfinder.co.uk that average wage for a carpet cleaner is only £16k :'(

Mark

Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Dennis on April 16, 2005, 09:19:09 am

According to Payfinder.co.uk that average wage for a carpet cleaner is only £16k :'(

Mark



Does that include employed, self-employed or both though?
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Karl Wildey on April 17, 2005, 10:56:24 am
Interesting poll.

Egos will always get in the way when we discuss our turnover/profit/drawings.

People are drawing over 70k, that is interesting how many people do they employ?, and how long in business?

Drawings are dependent on our situations, ie if you have young kids, wife and mortgage-you need more money and hence more work, than someone who has himself to support and the missus (if you have one) is out to work This person can take it easy and run their business almost like a hobby.

I have met many business owners who are flash with the cash, and next thing you know the business is closed due to some other problem. (pocket rich and business poor).
What a sensibly bunch of cc, we are, leaving some profit for the business and only take enough drawings to survive.

Maybe a poll on the percentage of profit againist turnover, or is this too much of a headache!
Title: Re: What do you really make from CC?
Post by: Len Gribble on April 17, 2005, 06:49:34 pm
The cc side of my business runs at a loss if the big boys can do it why cant I, new van ordered for August.

Len