Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: kinder clean on April 20, 2009, 07:06:00 pm
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When cleaning with a truckmount, roughly how many ltrs of water are you getting through per minute?
I know this will vary from model to model and the particular job your doing, but for a mid range machine cleaning a heavily soiled carpet, I'm just looking for some ball part figures.
Cheers
Paul - Kinder Clean
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at 500 psi i use about a gallon a minute
but i rarely use 500 psi
thats a rough guess by the way.
derek
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Hydramaster know better but mine is 5,5 gallons a min but don't know at what psi, also to consider is the dumping, some say not alot but in the summer it is significant.
Shaun
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have'nt got a clue, i just fill it up when i need to
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Peasant!
Bought an SX12 and tileandgroutcleaningblackpool.com ;D
Shaun
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ok Shaun its about 2 litres for every £100 earned!
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Nice, that's a good water meter mate ;D
Hows the tile and grout going?
Shaun
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What is 'The dumping' Shaun ?
Paul - Kinder Clean
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Would be inclined to say that the smaller models have pumps up to 4 gallons per minute, to Shauns medium size machine at 5.5 gpm. Always remembering that you are not pulling the trigger continuously - so the amount of water you put down per minute is not the same as the pump capacity
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picked up another one last week, so getting there.
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Always thought dumping is what you did with the girlfriends once they were past their sell by date ;)
Over to Shaun to explain the technical details of overheated water being deposited into the waste tank
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When your TM is on and you are not keying the wand the water at a certain temp will divert the very very hot water to the dirty water tank as to protect the pump, the hotter the TM or the quicker it heats up the more it will dump so in the summer you get more dumping. Some dump more than others ie Alltec less, I fill up twice a day sometimes I have trick moments when I look for an outside tap at the customers and there isn't one and I have had to go home.
Shaun
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Question is, did you go back???
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Paul, why do you want to know?
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Surprising whaqt you can find when you want to :o
Shaun
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Mike
Paul?? ??? ??? Curiousity
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Paul E my question was to paul (aka Kinderclean) not your good self
if we know what has prompted his question we are in better position give the required answer ;)
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Come on paul ???
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The worst thing about TM cleaning that I was unaware of was the correct running costs, £5 an hour was never stated and then there's the extras.
Shaun
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You're probably charging at least £15 more an hour than those with a portable so you can't really complain
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Actually you clean twice as fast with little effort but you do have to have consistant work.
Shaun
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There you go. Not only £15 an hour more but twice as fast. That makes £30 an hour more than the rest. Then there is no effort so you can work till you are into your dotage 8). You are onto a gold mine with one of those machines
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Cheap as chips when it's bought and paid for and then there's the breakage but it is a tool I can't do without don't want staff again.
Shaun
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It's amazing when I think back how many opportunities passed me by before I got the TM.
It's like I mentally was blinkered to 'big' area manky jobs and now they are popping up more and more.
I can also do them cheaper and still make far more money in a day. So any extra cost issues are really minor.
Trouble is I need more work, I'm finishing too soon now. ;D
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Thanks Shaun
Mike - I'm just working on some content for a new website.
I'm not planning on buying one just yet Clinton. :)
I agree truckmounts are a great marketing tool and the time saved between jobs definately makes them more productive, but for those of us looking to the future and I'm not meaning to sound all eco about this, but when you read about water shortage across the UK ( I know hard to believe !! :: ) but in the near future water is going to become quite a costly commodity. you read it here first. ;)
Now who's selling a dry compound ?? ::)
Paul - Kinder Clean
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Now dry compound that's a blast from the past and that's be far more expensive then water, eco cleaning should be done with water as it is the only true eco cleaning available.
Shaun
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Mike O
Remember Simon Gerrards long-running "why not a truckmount" topic ?
I bet if you re-read some of your posts on that it would be an eye opener, now you've got the TM ;D
Steve
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Steve
I need to get a life cos I must have read that thread from start to finish a few times along the way to getting a TM.
In fact I'd say it set the seed. That and watching Dave 'The Terminator' Liahona make £400 in four hours without breaking a sweat. ;D
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Mike
Don't tell anyone but I've read it a couple of times myself - I need to get out more ;D
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Anyone got a link?
Shaun
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Used 150ft run today, didn't seem to make any difference. :)
It's just time consuming setting up. Got a reel on the way and more hose.
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Try the butchers ;D ;D
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Clinton style
;D
Shaun
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I missed something ;D
Thought you were buying a t mount..
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I've got one mate your 9 years too late.
Shaun
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Had my first major TM problem today in four years and it was really self inflicted. Went to replace the exhaust gasket and the bolt snapped off. £300 for a new divert exhaust but £75 to get a local metal fabricator to redrill, thankfully. I had set aside the day for maintainance so all was not lost.
My Boxer uses about a full tank for a suite. Sometimes even a full tank on a dirty 14x12 lounge.
Basically the more passes you make or the longer you stop wanding the more it uses.
However as Shaun says I hear the Alltec machines dump very little.
Dumping, noise, fixing it and fuel consumption are the only drawbacks of owning a TM.
MArk
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Least you will be up an running mark :)
So you have not done bad if its your first faul mate..
You said a full tank of water ???Is that because of downtime the water will dump ???
cheers
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Apparently Alltecs don't get as hot but I couldn't see that when I inspected Dave Lee's.
Shaun
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Was suprised the water usage is so large..
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clinton
i could easily clean 3 x 3 bed semi's on one tank if i kept the psi down to about 200 psi, its when the carpets are mingin that you burn water.
derek
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Thats quite a lot of water usage then if its really dirty.
Till paul started this thread i never thought about the large usage of water on t mounts.
Means you will have to go home to refill as you caint really take all that water spec if there on a meter ???
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That's why I was back at diner time, bloody minger it was but custy very happy.
Shaun
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Hope the mrs dont know you have been home ;D
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Shhhhh
Shaun
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Clinton,
Dig deep in your pockets and get that bloody Woodbridge machine bought its a Bargain. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Paul
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Thats quite a lot of water usage then if its really dirty.
Till paul started this thread i never thought about the large usage of water on t mounts.
Means you will have to go home to refill as you caint really take all that water spec if there on a meter ???
Why cant you fill with the customers water - you plug into their electricity with a porty, and fill your machine up with their water with a porty.
Basically, as long as you wanding the machine doesnt dump.
You may use more water generally but that means the carpet is getting throughly washed.
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Saw that one paul. ::)
It would be a prowler if i did move up so water to dump :)
Or might even run the new alltec from a gennie and have water tank on board as am chating to someone at the mo about it.. :)
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Clinton you are focusing too much on the negatives,Joe will tell you that his Prowler will clean far faster than his Scorpion or he'd have sold it on by now.
Shaun
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No just dont want the downs of a t mount and you can get into a big turnover just from smaller set up like mine.
Think if i was older and find it harder to do all the work i would get one now..
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Think how you'll keep your back straighter when you're 60!
Shaun
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Positives far outweigh the negatives.
One fit man could expand his business cause he would get more jobs done in a day.
Or like me, make the day doable (is that a word?)
Just added this, with a glide you can stand upright and wand one handed.
Plain wanding I get no backache, stairs and suites ok yes but thats the nature of those jobs.
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Think if i was older and find it harder to do all the work i would get one now..
Wot are you sayin Clinton >:(
;D
Has anyone noticed some of the bottons and faces are out of focus or have I got a virus off a dodgy site?
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Faces out of focus?
Should have gone to Specsavers. ;D
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Joe ;D
Mike
Might get a gennie to work the new alltec as keep thinking of something dif.
Well i have done 3 jobs today and usually fin at 2 but worked till 4 30 lol,Just how much more work do i want to do i meant..
Dodgy sites mike ;)
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Sory mike meant still want a prowler :)Thought you meant the one for sale on ciu for sale the t mount..
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Well it's still blurry, I'm going to put the train set away and bin the cardboard roll. :o ;D
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Clinton,
If you had a Truck mount you Would have been home by 2:00 today ;D ;D ;D ;D
Paul
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Beat me to it Paul.
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I got through nearly 90 ltrs doing a small 2 bed flat,with the porty today ! it was rancid though.
then on my second job about 60 ltr on 1 x bathroom and small hall and bedroom ,both my jobs were real mingers today !
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Clinton you could keep it in the garage then haul it up into the van every morning with a thick rope.
That will make your lats pop out. ;D
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Mike
Something else might pop out ;D
Your cruel ;D
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Did my self a nasty yesterday jumping from a window ledge to get in a flat. Done my knee in a bit and a groin strain. Nothing a couple of brufies couldn't fix though.
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flippin eck mark, a full tank on one lounge! you had better check that you don't have a leak somewhere, that is hard to believe. i have a boxxer 427 and often do a 3-piece and also the carpets in the house before needing to refill, that said it is a water cooled engine and i think that makes the differrence, my old air cooled blazer could get through the water on a hot day,
colin
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Mike
Take it the hubby didnt catch you :D
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;D
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Your running out of excuses why not to have a T.M :) :) :)
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I must admit I do worry about my TM breaking down, and the thought of lost work, repair costs, hassle and having to use a portable. :(
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Sucked as much up as i put down,was rank beige pollyprop,kitchen on side of lounge,so very greasy + a dog into the equation,they didn`t take their shoes off even after the clean,and you get my drift ! cleaned once with extraction pro,then had to break out the double clean ! size was 16x9
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Extraction Pro must be the worst thing ive ever used since i started carpet cleaning.
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Yeah finding that out,not used it for donkeys,didn`t wanna waste fib and fab on the mank carpet >:( suggest something decent for pollyprop ? don`t really like using double clean,always leaves sediment,no matter how long i mix it for..
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try prochems power burst, it works for me on nearly everything,
colin
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Mike
You can always put the portie in the car if you t mount goes down ???
You will save on fuel ;D
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Used Wayne’s new wonder wand on a few jobs last weeks (well he did 8)I just collected the money ;D) on getting rid of wastewater; I was in ore the amount water it extracted on to next two jobs the same, got home fancy a coffee? F/w tank would not fill the kettle, what a tool
Len
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I think the ww is made for a porti as when I used mine it used loads of water.
Shaun
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Mark
What machine do you have mate ???
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I have a Prochem steempro s2000 with a 125 psi pump 45ltr capacity i think,only put 3 buckets in at a time so it does not fill up waste tank to top,sick of it sucking water
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Mark
try chemspec`s formular 90 for rinsing polyprops pre-spay with power burst( as colin suggested)
Daryl
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Beats me as to why all these t/ms' are using a tank of water for a lounge or 3 piece suite. Either they have extremely small tanks or they are not using the right prespray, allowing to dwell or agitate, depending on what material or the state of soiling.
All the t/m does is rinse extract. If you have broken down & loosened the soiling you shouldn't need more than one pass at reasonable speed
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I agree a good pre spray and a good dwell should do most of the work TM'ed or porti.
Shaun
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Used a trong mix of multi pro,then went over with a sebo ,then extrac pro,then double clean,should have just gone in straight with the dbl clean.loads of oil on bathroom carpet,
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the amount of water you use isnt5 a problem, i'll fill up in any house, by the out side tap, or there sink, i carry every tap connecter oround,
mark what are you doing to use 70 gallon on one carpet, i'll do 4 carpet and have some left, your meant to rinse the carpet mark not flood the damner
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If only CFR made a TM ;D
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Often thought about that, Mike H once looked at making one wouldn't need a big van as you would get rid of a water tank and less weight.
Shaun
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the amount of water you use isnt5 a problem, i'll fill up in any house, by the out side tap, or there sink, i carry every tap connecter oround,
mark what are you doing to use 70 gallon on one carpet, i'll do 4 carpet and have some left, your meant to rinse the carpet mark not flood the damner
Billy, when you say you carry every tap connector around - how many is that.
and have you had any problem in the kitchen where they have not held and water flying everywhere whilst your elsewhere c/cleaning.
I just dont trust the connectors but would luv to know what you use and if any problems.
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When I get my reel and hoses I will be down the weigh bridge, just in case. ???
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Mike
Think it might be an idea do you then get some sort of paperwork to show ???
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Mike
Think it might be an idea do you then get some sort of paperwork to show ???
nope, time to go on a diet ;D
derek
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no maccies!
not a chance, just have a diet coke instead of regular, that ought to do it.
derek
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The nantwich franchise would shut down ;D
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At the moment I would say everything in my van is pretty much essential. ???
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And you have enough room for your box of little blue pils ;D
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Just for the record that was a joke. ;)
Anyway off to do another job, not finished for the day like some part timers. ;D
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Really ;)
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When you got a truckmount Clinton, you don't mind working afternoons. In fact some Sunday mornings I jump out of bed only to be disappointed when I realise it's my day off. ;D
Did you actually watch that video on that site? I was after some feedback.