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Title: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: NWH on April 17, 2009, 09:50:08 pm
A very well made pole the sections slide with ease and like i say very well made,as for being a pole you can use allday long up and down is complete rubbish it is far to heavy for me for tops let alone downs.Closed the pole is well over 6ft and has a fiberglass base section the clamps are nothing new either although orange in colour but they work well,the thing that did it for me was the weight of it far to heavy for me to use for the whole day up and down.
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: Window Washers on April 17, 2009, 09:54:11 pm
A very well made pole the sections slide with ease and like i say very well made,as for being a pole you can use allday long up and down is complete rubbish it is far to heavy for me for tops let alone downs.Closed the pole is well over 6ft and has a fiberglass base section the clamps are nothing new either although orange in colour but they work well,the thing that did it for me was the weight of it far to heavy for me to use for the whole day up and down.
What would you recommend NWH, and don;t say a harris  ;)
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: AuRavelling79 on April 17, 2009, 09:56:36 pm
Well what did you expect? The tallest Glyder is 999 metres high and the smaller one is 994 metres ...  ;D

See if Tosh or the Gogs can interpret that one for you.
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: NWH on April 17, 2009, 10:01:19 pm
A very well made pole the sections slide with ease and like i say very well made,as for being a pole you can use allday long up and down is complete rubbish it is far to heavy for me for tops let alone downs.Closed the pole is well over 6ft and has a fiberglass base section the clamps are nothing new either although orange in colour but they work well,the thing that did it for me was the weight of it far to heavy for me to use for the whole day up and down.
What would you recommend NWH, and don;t say a harris  ;)
I would recommend as you know Facelift carbon as i know they are a quality product that lasts years,i`ve had a carbon Facelift for over 4 years and it gets used daily.I will be getting the new SLX when it comes out with the new moulded plastic clamps i feel Alex has ironed out most problems with the pole now ie jamming and clamp issues.
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: poleman on April 17, 2009, 10:35:42 pm
I have used both the glyder and SLX and in my view the SLX wins hands down!
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on April 17, 2009, 10:47:46 pm
A very well made pole the sections slide with ease and like i say very well made,as for being a pole you can use allday long up and down is complete rubbish it is far to heavy for me for tops let alone downs.Closed the pole is well over 6ft and has a fiberglass base section the clamps are nothing new either although orange in colour but they work well,the thing that did it for me was the weight of it far to heavy for me to use for the whole day up and down.
What would you recommend NWH, and don;t say a harris  ;)
I would recommend as you know Facelift carbon as i know they are a quality product that lasts years,i`ve had a carbon Facelift for over 4 years and it gets used daily.I will be getting the new SLX when it comes out with the new moulded plastic clamps i feel Alex has ironed out most problems with the pole now ie jamming and clamp issues.
facelift poles are good but they are much much to long when closed, so my opinion of facelift poles are that they are poop  - THATS WHY I AM OUT
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: s.w.c on April 17, 2009, 10:55:35 pm
NEW CLAMPS ARE THE NUTZ
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: Tosh on April 17, 2009, 11:04:24 pm
Well what did you expect? The tallest Glyder is 999 metres high and the smaller one is 994 metres ...  ;D

See if Tosh or the Gogs can interpret that one for you.

I think Malc could be talking about a certain type of hilly-landscape-type-feature? 

Or he's talking rubbish?
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: NWH on April 17, 2009, 11:12:19 pm
NEW CLAMPS ARE THE NUTZ
You have the alloy clamps there not the new new ones. ;D
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: [GQC] Tim on April 18, 2009, 12:35:15 am
NEW CLAMPS ARE THE NUTZ
You have the alloy clamps there not the new new ones. ;D

New clamps? Sweet.

How would you compare the Glyder to the first revision SL-X?
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: Dave Turley on April 18, 2009, 08:10:34 am
did you road test a 66/72 ft or whatever the big poles are?

or was it the 25ft?

just wondering if it was a like for like comparison with the sl-x?
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: windowswashed on April 18, 2009, 08:43:17 am
SL-X is best for lightness and rigidity but wears down too quick. Facelift is slightly heavier (not much), has better, smarter clamps, and wears many times better, (giving better value for money) than a SL-X, but is reflected in the proportionately higher price. Overall verdict; they are about equal.

In an ideal world a facelift pole shortened from 6ft to 5ft with the price lowered to that of the SL-X, made slightly thinner in wall diameter to reduce the weight would be the ideal pole. Pity Facelift don't make a 10inch version of their original brush head as it would be a good brush if it wasn't so large and heavy. The facelift gooseneck is ideal as it can be used either as a short or long gooseneck depending on which way it is fitted to the top of the pole and brush.
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: R W C on April 18, 2009, 09:03:16 am
If you want a Facelift ring Russel Oxley at facelift and im sure he would do you a deal on a new pole

Sales: 0845 643 62 43

He done me a very good deal and im really pleased.

If you want anymore info email me reflectionwindowcleaning@live.co.uk

Chris
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: AuRavelling79 on April 18, 2009, 09:06:15 am
Well what did you expect? The tallest Glyder is 999 metres high and the smaller one is 994 metres ...  ;D

See if Tosh or the Gogs can interpret that one for you.

I think Malc could be talking about a certain type of hilly-landscape-type-feature? 

Or he's talking rubbish?

Well "Googled" Tosh! Superb twin-peaked mountain in Snowdonia.
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: Tosh on April 18, 2009, 09:19:22 am
Well what did you expect? The tallest Glyder is 999 metres high and the smaller one is 994 metres ...  ;D

See if Tosh or the Gogs can interpret that one for you.

I think Malc could be talking about a certain type of hilly-landscape-type-feature? 

Or he's talking rubbish?

Well "Googled" Tosh! Superb twin-peaked mountain in Snowdonia.

Nope, not googled, I guessed it was like a 'Munro'.  I've done a lot of climbing when I was younger; and used to 'collect' highest peaks (I've done the highest in England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, France (Mont Blanc) and Germany); sad I know.
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: ftp on April 18, 2009, 09:23:24 am
Sounds like you peaked too early.
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: AuRavelling79 on April 18, 2009, 01:16:28 pm
Close Tosh but not quite - the Glyders are two mountains peaks off of the same mass - one is Glyder Fach the other Glyfer Fawr - you can walk up but a good way is over the North face of Tryfan and up Bristly ridge which both allow for some superb simple scrambling (but without needing ropes).

Both are higher than anything in England but a bit lower than Snowdon and the Carneddau in North Wales.
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: crystal.clear on April 18, 2009, 01:55:17 pm
just wondered what u lot think of this pole. im thinking of pre-ordering one http://www.faceliftcleaning.co.uk/fusion-pole-range.html
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: leapstallbuildings on April 18, 2009, 05:35:50 pm
A very well made pole the sections slide with ease and like i say very well made,as for being a pole you can use allday long up and down is complete rubbish it is far to heavy for me for tops let alone downs.Closed the pole is well over 6ft and has a fiberglass base section the clamps are nothing new either although orange in colour but they work well,the thing that did it for me was the weight of it far to heavy for me to use for the whole day up and down.

Well I held a Glyder (25 ft).  I also held an 18ft glass multipole.  I reckon that if the multipole had been the same length as the Glyder, the weights would have been about equal. 
Not scientific but I bet I'm not far off i.e. I doubt there is much (if any) benefit using carbon as opposed to a multipole.  The guy reckoned that the Glyder was only 200 grammes heavier than the SL-X.  I find that hard to believe - unless he meant poles without brushes and the Ionics pole has a much heavier brush.
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: simon w on April 18, 2009, 05:48:31 pm
NWH

Can you tell us more about any changes to the SLX? I bought one at the beginning of April I wanted two but Gardiners were only selling one pole per person :'(

I thought this was the latest SLX design with alloy clamps, do you know anymore on the plastic molded clamps and why Gardiners have changed the material and design. I'm on the waiting list for a second pole in May and I'm interested to know if this pole will be different to the one I bought at the beginning of April?

Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: m b shaw on April 18, 2009, 06:12:36 pm
n w h i said last week i d picked up a glyder and thought it was heavy and i would nt like to use one all day,then i read other posts saying it was light, i thought i d picked up the wrong pole when i read that, im glad someone else thought the same. cheers mick
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: Dave Turley on April 19, 2009, 10:39:49 am
I thought the 25ft glyder was a comparable weight to my sl-x.

what's this about a waiting list for sl-x's?  last I heard alex wasn't doing waiting lists. first come, first served only?
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: R W C on April 19, 2009, 12:39:55 pm
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=70677.0
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: dai on April 19, 2009, 10:56:12 pm
I haven't used the SLX, but I can understand the ware issues with the thin carbon walls.
I wonder if anyones thought of aluminium sections at the bottom of each length?
The clamps would locate on these and not the carbon walls. the next to the bottom section would still get a hammering though as it used the most for height adjustment.
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: d s windowcleaning on April 19, 2009, 11:05:45 pm
SL-X is best for lightness and rigidity but wears down too quick. Facelift is slightly heavier (not much), has better, smarter clamps, and wears many times better, (giving better value for money) than a SL-X, but is reflected in the proportionately higher price. Overall verdict; they are about equal.

In an ideal world a facelift pole shortened from 6ft to 5ft with the price lowered to that of the SL-X, made slightly thinner in wall diameter to reduce the weight would be the ideal pole. Pity Facelift don't make a 10inch version of their original brush head as it would be a good brush if it wasn't so large and heavy. The facelift gooseneck is ideal as it can be used either as a short or long gooseneck depending on which way it is fitted to the top of the pole and brush.
they do a 11 inch brush supplied by wcw .
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: Russell oxley on April 20, 2009, 12:27:47 pm
SL-X is best for lightness and rigidity but wears down too quick. Facelift is slightly heavier (not much), has better, smarter clamps, and wears many times better, (giving better value for money) than a SL-X, but is reflected in the proportionately higher price. Overall verdict; they are about equal.

In an ideal world a facelift pole shortened from 6ft to 5ft with the price lowered to that of the SL-X, made slightly thinner in wall diameter to reduce the weight would be the ideal pole. Pity Facelift don't make a 10inch version of their original brush head as it would be a good brush if it wasn't so large and heavy. The facelift gooseneck is ideal as it can be used either as a short or long gooseneck depending on which way it is fitted to the top of the pole and brush.

We are in the process of totally revamping the range of waterfed poles for 09/10. You wil notice that we have started with the glass fibre which are now 5ft sections and have a new lower price.
Then we have introduced the new Fusion Pole which is available in late may that also has 5ft sections.
We have also made a new clamp so the largest poles no longer have 8ft sections. I'm sure you guys will agree that 6ft sections are better for the larger poles.
We will be looking at the rest of range in coming months.
Russell
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: R W C on April 20, 2009, 02:38:01 pm
I think my 8x6ft Facelift is awesome and will definatly buy my next pole from facelift,
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: stevekennedy on April 22, 2009, 10:45:36 pm
We have just taken stock of 8 Glyders from Ionic as a distributor.

Email me  if unterested. sales@perfectshine.co.uk
Title: Re: Road tested a Glyder yesterday.
Post by: stevekennedy on April 23, 2009, 08:02:23 am
Don't know. Alex let's people know when he has stuff in stock. Should I modify the post?