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Title: pillow water tanks
Post by: jouk45 on April 16, 2009, 05:35:04 pm
has anyone seen these pillow water tanks before, they are very tough, and repairable, and fold away if you dont have a garage, nice space saver, and come in all sizes, or can be custom made. also in a head on crash, i would think this would be safer than the hard plastic water tanks,
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/trainingacademy/vantank.png)
this one is huge, must be thousands of gallons in there,
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/trainingacademy/hugetank.png)
http://www.jwautomarine.co.uk/pr_lg_lfta.htm
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: Glyn H on April 16, 2009, 05:46:45 pm
Got two sizes in stock
They are designed for transporting water to disaster areas.
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: jouk45 on April 16, 2009, 05:50:36 pm
what sizes do you have glyn, they look realy tough,
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: Glyn H on April 16, 2009, 05:58:25 pm
60 US gallon and 120 US gallon
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: Glyn H on April 16, 2009, 06:00:49 pm
When not in use the 60 gallon one folds up to 12" x 12" X 1"
which is really handy
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: jouk45 on April 16, 2009, 06:03:19 pm
i think it is a brilliant idea, would be good if they where made in 125  175 250 litres,
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: andyatkinson on April 16, 2009, 06:05:54 pm
would be amazin a smaller one for topping up your trolley , get on it glyn!
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: Glyn H on April 16, 2009, 06:11:33 pm
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would be amazin a smaller one for topping up your trolley , get on it glyn!
  ;D

60 US gallons = 227 litres
120 US gallons = 454

I think we might have some 30 US gallon ones too :)
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: andyatkinson on April 16, 2009, 06:13:54 pm
keep in car top up trolley with it, great, what are the fittings like they look huge?
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: Moderator David@stives on April 16, 2009, 06:14:50 pm
Good for crash testing i think.

All you need is some spikes to tear it open in a crash ?

Do you think the loose water would do as much damage ?
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: andyatkinson on April 16, 2009, 06:16:49 pm
also it could double as a cozy little water bed for afternoon naps :D
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: jouk45 on April 16, 2009, 06:20:57 pm
Good for crash testing i think.

All you need is some spikes to tear it open in a crash ?

Do you think the loose water would do as much damage ?
snap just what i was going to say  lol
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: JSMC on April 16, 2009, 06:22:18 pm
http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/gelert-fold-a-carrier-water-carrier-with-tap/COREACGDJCN048

what about this? use these for camping
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy) on April 16, 2009, 06:55:44 pm
i looked into those a while back joe, they seem an excellent idea for those that need the space, they are available at most chandelry outlets (boats and stuff)  8)
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: jouk45 on April 16, 2009, 07:05:06 pm
nice one scrimman, theres a chandelry round the corner from me, will pop in and see what they cost,
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: andyatkinson on April 16, 2009, 07:09:21 pm
arnt they a bit small? wouldnt the water take ages to empty out scrimman?
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: ftp on April 16, 2009, 07:38:18 pm
Got two sizes in stock
They are designed for transporting water to disaster areas.

More like the back of the van would become the disaster area i would think. Be like the Posiedon Adventure all over again. :o
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: peter holley on April 16, 2009, 07:42:51 pm
also it could double as a cozy little water bed for afternoon naps :D

lol ...now your talking my language :D
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: Glyn H on April 16, 2009, 07:52:44 pm
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More like the back of the van would become the disaster area i would think. Be like the Posiedon Adventure all over again
  ;D

I dont expect they would be selling to the military, international rescue and relief services worldwide  if they were unstable.

The tank is constructed from heavy duty polyurethane coated nylon that is suitable for potable water. This material is highly puncture resistant, durable and flexible. It will not wrinkle, crease or crack. When not in use this unit can be folded or rolled up to take up almost no storage space.
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: matt on April 16, 2009, 08:30:24 pm
PACK-A-TANK do them, a few use them at VW shows, leave them outside and the sun heats them up and they use them for showers

the 125 L would be handy for them jobs you are worred about running out of water


PACK-A-TANK® is available in 5 stock sizes of
125 litres, 250 litres, 500 litres, 750 litres &
1000 litres
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: ftp on April 16, 2009, 08:34:37 pm
Don't the military use vehicles a bit bigger than my Despatch?
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: cybersye on April 16, 2009, 08:56:46 pm
PACK-A-TANK do them, a few use them at VW shows, leave them outside and the sun heats them up and they use them for showers

the 125 L would be handy for them jobs you are worred about running out of water


PACK-A-TANK® is available in 5 stock sizes of
125 litres, 250 litres, 500 litres, 750 litres &
1000 litres
just tried googling for a uk supplier, but no joy
do you know of one Matt ?
thanks
simon
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: matt on April 16, 2009, 09:05:06 pm
PACK-A-TANK do them, a few use them at VW shows, leave them outside and the sun heats them up and they use them for showers

the 125 L would be handy for them jobs you are worred about running out of water


PACK-A-TANK® is available in 5 stock sizes of
125 litres, 250 litres, 500 litres, 750 litres &
1000 litres
just tried googling for a uk supplier, but no joy
do you know of one Matt ?
thanks
simon

i will ask some1 who i know who has 1

they call them " PACK-A-TANK ". but i guess they might be some other make

i just googled PACK-A-TANK and cut and pasted the sizes

i know they have a 125 L size, as it takes the whole day to heat up
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: LWC on April 16, 2009, 09:24:51 pm
brilliant!
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: Glyn H on April 16, 2009, 09:27:54 pm
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Don't the military use vehicles a bit bigger than my Despatch?


I dont know!
many drive Jeeps, Landrovers, and of course the Toyota pickup favourite of many middle and far eastern military forces.
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: jouk45 on April 16, 2009, 10:00:12 pm
found a uk supplier, worth asking if they stock them
http://www.water-direct.co.uk/pillow_tanks_and_bladder_tanks.html
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: karygate on April 17, 2009, 08:27:18 am
here is someones price list. seems a bit steep
http://www.water-storage-tank.com/support-files/pillow_tanks_flyer.pdf
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: leapstallbuildings on April 17, 2009, 08:37:04 am
Could be handy if I'm ever unable to pay my mortgage.  Rip the existing tank out of the van and substitute one of those tanks.  An all in one work and sleep solution   :)
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: ftp on April 17, 2009, 09:11:24 am
Oh well,l I've dropped enough hints so I might as well spell it out. So we forget all about securing heavy loads now and chuck a roly poly bag in the back that slides from left to right, forwards and backwards on the bed of your van? No baffles? No cage? Ionics and Brodex have wasted all their crash testing money obviously.  ;D
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: AuRavelling79 on April 17, 2009, 09:22:36 am
Oh wel,l I've dropped enough hints so I might as well spell it out. So we forget all about securing heavy loads now and chuck a roley poley bag in the back that slides from left to right, forwards and backwards on the bed of your van? No baffles? No cage? Ionics and Brodex have wasted all their crash testing money obviously.  ;D

But would it? Or would it's very design allow it to spread it's kinetic energy without damage? Andy A we need an answer!

Oh, and very funny leapstallbldgs ...  ;D
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: steve bell on April 17, 2009, 10:45:25 am
Hmmm.... seen these before and thought about their uses in a window cleaning WFP pure storage capacity. I had a little experiment with something a little smaller scale before spending any money.
Try this yourselves; Get one of those 'zip locked' plastic bags and fill it three quarters full with regular tap water. (don't want to waste precious pure water on experimentation) seal the bag three quarters across the top and squeeze until any air is expelled. Then seal the bag fully. Place on a tray and then tilt the tray in a manner to simulate vehicle movement.

I think you may find you have an uncontrollable mass with almost jelly like qualities. The only way to counter this would be to encapsulate the bag in some sort of container or box. But even then, the absence of baffles will cause problems. :(

Sorry to shoot a good idea down. Without idea's like this and people willing to think outside the box we probably wouldn't have the WFP solution in the first place. :)
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: ftp on April 17, 2009, 11:05:55 am
Even if you secured the corners with quality lashings I think it's going to act like a blamonge (how do you spell that?) when the water level drops. I should imagine they are at their most stable when pumped full to the max.
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: cybersye on April 17, 2009, 08:11:40 pm
Even if you secured the corners with quality lashings I think it's going to act like a blamonge (how do you spell that?) when the water level drops. I should imagine they are at their most stable when pumped full to the max.
think that your probably right there, they would be of little use if you had to move your vehicle between jobs but could be useful for extra storage if you had a big commercial job and not a large enough tank perhaps.
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: jouk45 on April 18, 2009, 12:23:52 am
dont forget these pillow tanks can be customized if you have the cash, to baffle them, all they do is welt  sections between the top and bottom with holes in them before they seal them together, i use to own a welter so i know what i am talking about,
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: ftp on April 18, 2009, 09:00:25 am
Best get welting then Jo and buid a 650ltr one and give it a go.  ;)

I'd love to see how you brim one without getting the van wet.
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: Nathanael Jones on April 19, 2009, 01:50:29 pm
My idea with these is to fit a smaller one INSIDE my 650 layflat tank.
Why?

Because I want to use the tank for pressure washing, and not waste resin by using DI water for the pressure washing. So, fill the pillow bag (100 litres or so) with pure (Separate outlet of course), fill the rest of the tank with tap water, pressure wash away and still have pure water left to clean the windows when I'm finished pressure washing,.. all without the hassle of an extra tank, extra frame, extra weight in the van,.....

Would it work?
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: jouk45 on April 19, 2009, 02:48:27 pm
for your custys that dont have an outside tap, your idea is a good one nathan,
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: Glyn H on April 19, 2009, 03:05:12 pm
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My idea with these is to fit a smaller one INSIDE my 650 layflat tank.
Why?

Because I want to use the tank for pressure washing, and not waste resin by using DI water for the pressure washing. So, fill the pillow bag (100 litres or so) with pure (Separate outlet of course), fill the rest of the tank with tap water, pressure wash away and still have pure water left to clean the windows when I'm finished pressure washing,.. all without the hassle of an extra tank, extra frame, extra weight in the van,.....

Would it work?


Yes it would work, with a little bit of fiddling about to get the water outlet setup so that the pressure from the weight of the water in the main tank didnt interfere with the flow from the pillow tank.
Any baffles in the main tank could cause a problem but not an insurmountable one.
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: jouk45 on April 19, 2009, 05:56:07 pm
ok guys found them suitable for our use. and dirt cheap to
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/trainingacademy/cheapwatertanks.png)
heres the link, scroll half way down for 5 sizes from £38 to £75 and they are based here in the uk  8)
http://www.marinescene.co.uk/manufacturer/8/plastimo
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: dai on April 19, 2009, 10:33:58 pm
My waterbed holds about 450 ltrs, [7ft x 6ft]I had thought about using my last mattress for carrying water.
Most water beds are filled with nylon fibre to slow down the water movement. I don't feel a thing when the Mrs gets out of bed, so you can baffle them. Containing them is the problem.
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: dai on April 19, 2009, 10:43:34 pm
Jouk, that site does a handy lightweight trolley for a backpack too.
Title: Re: pillow water tanks
Post by: jouk45 on April 19, 2009, 10:58:27 pm
where are you seeing that dai, i cant find it,