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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Seers on April 10, 2009, 09:33:15 pm
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Hi,
As i've mentioned on a previous thread we are now receiving enquiries from all over the UK for lots of different types of cleaning.
Rather than sending my guys all over the country for large jobs or just wasting all the smaller job enquiries as the travelling is too much for us, I will now be looking to pass on these enquiries to anyone on here who is interested.
Rather than adding a mark up to each job you quote on, I will be looking for a set monthly fee, regardless of volume of leads, and you will then be given a set area. All our enquiries for that area will then be sent to you to do with how you feel fit. Each area is pretty large so although you may not get leads every day or week, you should expect a good few over a year.
Many of you may well mock this post as pie in the sky talk, but I'm already giving leads to some guys on here. There will be no contracts, it will be pay a month ahead, stop whenever you like if you feel it's not working for you. For more info email huw@seerclean.com and I will email you the list of areas and prices.
I hope the mods don't remove this post as advertising, because I've never advertised anything else before. I would just like to pass on qualified leads in the hope of everyone getting more work.
I've posted it in this section first, I will copy it to general cleaning tomorrow. We get enquiries for window cleaning, pressure washing, gum removal, cladding cleaning, cherry picker work, carpet cleaning, builders cleans, graffiti removal etc etc all over the country.
Bear in mind I've had a couple of cans now and was in two minds whether to post this or not, but I'm spending too much time lately searching for contractors in different areas, I would now just like to have a directory of guys I know I can pass work straight too. Thanks.
Cheers,
Huw
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And if you fail to pass on any leads to someone who has paid will you refund them, I doubt it.
And if you have two people in one area will give them both the same leads or half each.
A fairer system that will get more takers would be to let the local guy price it and you put a standard mark up that's what most people do cos it works. ;D
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Hi,
There will only be one contractor per area.
If you get no leads over a twelve month period you will be refunded.
In my experience of subbing work out, the time you have to put into finding a contractor, then chasing them for the quote, then re-writing the quote as if it's your own, sending it to the client, chasing the client for the order, chasing subbys for safety docs, arranging clean dates, then sorting payments out.....etc... for the sake of 10% its not worth it.
This way all I do is pass the leads on, whether you win the work or not is down to you. You charge whatever you like.
Cheers,
Huw.
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Hi,
Thanks for the emails so far, forms will be sent out in the coming week. It will be a learning process for everyone I would imagine. Hope it goes well for you all.
Cheers,
Huw.
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who are the guys on here that you have given work to and how much work have they won through you?
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Hi,
As i've mentioned on a previous thread we are now receiving enquiries from all over the UK for lots of different types of cleaning.
Rather than sending my guys all over the country for large jobs or just wasting all the smaller job enquiries as the travelling is too much for us, I will now be looking to pass on these enquiries to anyone on here who is interested.
Rather than adding a mark up to each job you quote on, I will be looking for a set monthly fee, regardless of volume of leads, and you will then be given a set area. All our enquiries for that area will then be sent to you to do with how you feel fit. Each area is pretty large so although you may not get leads every day or week, you should expect a good few over a year.
Many of you may well mock this post as pie in the sky talk, but I'm already giving leads to some guys on here. There will be no contracts, it will be pay a month ahead, stop whenever you like if you feel it's not working for you. For more info email huw@seerclean.com and I will email you the list of areas and prices.
I hope the mods don't remove this post as advertising, because I've never advertised anything else before. I would just like to pass on qualified leads in the hope of everyone getting more work.
I've posted it in this section first, I will copy it to general cleaning tomorrow. We get enquiries for window cleaning, pressure washing, gum removal, cladding cleaning, cherry picker work, carpet cleaning, builders cleans, graffiti removal etc etc all over the country.
Bear in mind I've had a couple of cans now and was in two minds whether to post this or not, but I'm spending too much time lately searching for contractors in different areas, I would now just like to have a directory of guys I know I can pass work straight too. Thanks.
Cheers,
Huw
You would have to give out a lot more info than that though.
I'm not knocking the general idea but you are asking people to trust text on a screen that could just as easily be a scam.
Instead, why not ask for say, the price of the first clean? I would pay that for a job for a regular customer.
The way I read it, you could receive twelve monthly fixed payments from someone, receive one enquiry for them in a year (meaning that no refund would be available), and they would be out of pocket.
You would need to be totally transparent about it by showing which area is for which cleaner because there would be nothing to stop you receiving money from a number of cleaners in an area and dishing out the work on a rota basis so that they all have to pay.
I'm not saying that you would do any of the above but it would be open to abuse.
Windowwashers has a one per area setup for an advertising page on his site but it's cheap and at least you can see what you are getting. I haven't had a great deal of work from it but at eight cleans per year, I don't need much for it to be viable (currently £49 cost a year but doing work currently valued at £720 a year from it). Mind you, I've had no new enquiries for some time now.
Please don't take this as the usual CIU knock. I've tried to be constructive about it.
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Hi,
We already pass work on to a couple of guys on here, the problem with the set up at the moment is that once I add on the mark up it can often bump their quote up too much which then means they may lose the quote which means we've all wasted our time.
Also a lot of the enquiries are for pretty decent job ticket values, but also we get plenty of standard domestic jobs. In my view, it would only take you to get one or two small customers from the info on regular jobs to pay the subscription.
The main problem I see is that we get lots and lots of enquiries from the larger cities in the UK but few from the remote ones. So I would imagine that the guys with the remote ones may end up getting their money back.
Area take up will be transparent, I won't be knocking anyone, it's an idea my misses came up with yesterday after I was moaning to her about the wasted leads we get.
Rather than me name guys we give leads to I'd rather them vouch for me really. I've even resorted to trawling the internet to pass quotes on to random companies recently.
Cheers,
Huw.
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Hi,
As for scamming people, i've been on this board for five years and would rather not have the embarrassment from some of the guys I regularly chat to on the phone with.
Cheers,
Huw.
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I am one of the guys on here that has priced up work for Huw, at Seerclean.
As Huw has said once he adds on a percentage it makes the price difficult.
I have been communicating with Huw now, for approx 6 months, he is a genuine guy, is listed highly in the search engines and gets many really good leads.
If you don't like the idea of what he is doing, don't get involved. If he says that you will get a refund, then if he has never let you down in the past, there is no reason to disbelieve him!!!
Huw - you know my take on works, I will be happy to continue pricing works for you if you are struggling with a contractor in an area.
Get a disclaimer or tell the client that you are not responsible for the quality of the contractor, that they are only phone numbers. You don't want a numpty representing you!!!
Good luck
Rob ;D
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Hi,
Cheers Rob!
Remember that quote you did for us on that huge warehouse up by you?
I can honestly say I haven't laughed so hard for a long time as when you left the message telling me how big the unit was. Pity we haven't heard back from them though.
Cheers,
Huw.
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who are the guys on here that you have given work to and how much work have they won through you?
Me as well.
I have recently picked up one job via Huw, it is the only communication I have had with him, but to me he seems genuine. I have no reason to doubt him.
Put it this way, its my biggest domestic so far, which is why I started the thread about the same subject. I am a satisfied customer.
Matt
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Hi,
Thanks for that matt. Thats the type of quote where if I had added on my percentage and then subbed it to you, we may have priced ourselves out of the market.
As it is you've ended up with what sounds like a peach of a job for as long as you keep the customer happy, think how much that will be worth over the lifetime of the job!
If you change your mind on that clean in Hemel Hempstead it's still available.
Cheers,
Huw.
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Thanks Huw, Im bogged down with work to be honest, I would otherwise, thanks again.
And you're right, it does seem a great little number. Ive been in communication with Skye, she seems to think theres more work in the pipe-line with this initial contact, theres other properties there in the locality that are definately worth a brochure or two ;D
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any in scotland..... ;)
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Hi,
We had a nice office building in Glasgow a couple of months ago, which I got sorted through here.
But I had some pressure washing in Edinburgh last month I could not sort out with anyone so that went to waste!
Cheers,
Huw
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we could have done that.
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procleanscotland@yahoo.co.uk. send me info mate
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if your handing out contracts time if you are stuck for a name use mine !!!!!!!
sounds good croydon south london aNd surrey would be interested at a.v.oliver@btinternet.com
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Have You got more info on the Hemel Hempstead job Hew?
I may be interested I live up the road in Hatfield.
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Hi,
Sorry Paul, Hemel Hempstead job is now sorted. Through somebody else on here earlier on this afternoon. It was for windows, pvc and gutters I think.
Cheers,
Huw.
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Hi,
Are there no window cleaners near Braintree? Can't seem to get rid of this gutter cleaning quote for a four bed house for love nor money!
Cheers,
Huw.
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can u sent me info for the monthly charge for scotland
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How Much ?
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dave are u going to the trad show.would like a chat i like the way ur going with ur business.
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Which one ?
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fed blackpool
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Yep defo going.
i need to market myself so i am going to try and get a press release because i am a moderator, also i am going creeping to Bryan and the gang so i can join the committeee and sell you all out
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lol.i think u are doing good with ur company.would like some tips so i can go that way to
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Hi Dave,
Honest answer?....not sure yet.
I have split the UK into areas, they will be quite large i.e. west midlands, bristol, kent, west london etc
From all the areas, I have twenty which we receive probably between 5 and 10 enquiries a month from the remaining areas get probably something like one or two a month, some to date maybe zero enquiries full stop.
Obviously the areas that I know we are getting plenty of enquiries already will be our premier areas which will be charged double the standard areas. If I only get these areas covered I would be happy. And for the guys taking these areas on I would be 100% confident they will be happy with the amount of enquiries which should come through.
But for instance we have only ever received one enquiry from West Wales to date. However that enquiry turned out to be the largest contract I had ever been involved in. Since then I have received an enquiry which could dwarf that contract, but it's early days for that one at the moment.
Anyway basically the problem I see is that the areas I dish out will be too big in terms of smaller companies to try and cover i.e. if an enquiry is 25 miles from them they may turn round and say its not worth going out to quote for a £100 job maybe.
But if I make the areas too small, the price could come down, but the admin for me will become a nightmare I expect as I would end up with hundreds of areas to deal with rather than maybe 50 as it probably will be as it stands.
I would envisage prices of £40 a month for premeir areas and £20 a month for the standard areas. Basically you are paying for us to hopefully find some nice enquiries which with a bit of luck will recoup your outlay.
It may be the case that in twelve months time some of the standard area guys get their money back as I've failed to provide leads and we find certain areas will just not be worthwhile, but I would imagine the premier area guys will be laughing with the type of enquiries which come through.
I've just cancelled my ufindus/customer street site at £40 a month for the last year, I have received zero enquiries, but they didn't give me my money back.
So really guys, it's a case of sitting and hoping that enough enquiries come in to keep everyone happy, but you can finish whenever you like.
Cheers,
Huw.
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Hi,
Thanks to everyone who has contacted me, i've been really pleased with the interest shown. Still have some areas not covered though if anyone else is interested.
Cheers,
Huw.
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can u email me details thanks. procleanscotland@yahoo.co.uk
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Done ducky. Thought I had sent one yesterday to you must have sent out about thirty or forty all together.
Cheers,
Huw
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thanks huw.check ur mail
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Hi,
Thanks to everyone who has contacted me, i've been really pleased with the interest shown. Still have some areas not covered though if anyone else is interested.
Cheers,
Huw.
Could you send me some info please, i'm in Bridgnorth shropshire ;)
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Hi,
We had a nice office building in Glasgow a couple of months ago, which I got sorted through here.
But I had some pressure washing in Edinburgh last month I could not sort out with anyone so that went to waste!
Cheers,
Huw
Thanks for that Huw, nice little earner it was too ;)
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hi id be interested if you could email me info please i will be operating in the cheshire,merseyside areas
my email is richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
cheers richy
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Think I should up my prices on my site for an area ::),
Huw can you email me details please to design@windowwashers.co.uk
Cheers
Ian
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Hi Huw,
I would be interested in the Midlands areas please
tony.thornton@centralwindowcleaners.co.uk
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Any in the devon area? ( Window Cleaning)
Thanks
Newclean
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Hi,
Are there no window cleaners near Braintree? Can't seem to get rid of this gutter cleaning quote for a four bed house for love nor money!
Cheers,
Huw.
I am just outside colchester...not far from braintree if you still need a quote.
daniel.worgan@sky.com
Dan ;)
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hi, any work available around worcestershire/birmingham area? wfp window cleaner interested in commercial more so than domestic. thanks
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Is there anything in and around the tamworth area could you send me some details both commercial and domestic?
collins82002@yahoo.co.uk
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hi any work in west yorkshire area, you can contact me kleaningwindows@live.co.uk thanks ;D
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Huw
Many thanks for the telephone call today, that job is booked to be cleaned this saturday and they will be slotted onto a 4 weekly round thereafter.
I also do quite a few apartment blocks that are opposite their house already, so this is a nice bonus.
William
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Thanks again for the sales lead today Huw, just a matter of paying you the monies, i can paypal it over to you if you like ;)
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Hi,
Cheers guys, if I had as many enquiries everyday as we had today we'd all do very well. But some days we get none and other days the phone never stops.
Shows what you can expect really, one of those jobs was a regular domestic window clean and the other a pretty huge gutter clean on a warehouse.
I think I better start signing people up whilst the goings good! It's a bit of a pain trying to divide the UK up into manageable areas....my head hurts.
Cheers,
Huw.
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i will take fife .perth and kingross.dundee.and north of scotland and edinbrugh. if u can email the price for thes areas.thanks
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i will take fife .perth and kingross.dundee.and north of scotland and edinbrugh. if u can email the price for thes areas.thanks
And Ill take the rest of the UK whilst your at it ;D
Actually, I say give the bloke a chance, he might have to charge you a lot for that that youve told him ;D you're having ;D ;D ;D
I thought we were meant to e-mail Huw and he'd get back to us with the required paper-work; or is it a free-for-all now?
Youve bitten off quite a chunk here Huw, good luck mate ;D ;D
Matt
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Hi,
I know Matt, i'll have to go into hiding if this goes pear shaped.
Anyone interested please email me direct at huw@seerclean.com rather than on the open forum.
I have fallen behind today trying to reply to everyone. Rest assured application forms will be forwarded to everyone who has emailed me so far over the next couple of days. I am about half way through drawing it up.
Cheers,
Huw.
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What areas are left
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Hi,
We're still going through the applications we have received, so I can't say which areas have gone yet, plus I would imagine there are lots more still to be returned.
Lots of the areas, especially down south have been oversubscribed and others we have had no interest in such as counties in the East Midlands and North East.
Also some people would like smaller areas, so if the people interested in the same area are prepared to split it in half etc we are trying to do that too, which then works out cheaper.
We forwarded four jobs on yesterday and I think six the day before.
Cheers,
Huw.
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hi
how about the North Yorkshire area?
thanks
jonathan
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Hi,
North Yorkshire still free I think, email huw@seerclean.com
Cheers,
Huw.
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Hi Huw
Just checking you have my email.
Very interested in midlands, especially Staffordshire, but, also cover west mids.
We have 3 professionally fitted van mounted systems. Do maily commercial, have CHAS, Safecontractor, so sensitive premises no probs, do a lot of HA etc. All staff are CRB & Police vetted.
2 IPAF, 4 Harness & 2 Scaffold (PASMA sorry forgot name) liscenses. CSCS no probs.
Work: Window Cleaning
Pressure Washng
Cladding Cleaning
Roof & Gutter cleaning
Carpet Cleaning
Build Cleaning (Was doing showhouse cleaning till Wimpey did reshuffle)
Also commercial office cleaning which is done by friend, we pass work
between each other.
We travel a lot based in cannock, do approx 60 mile radious.
Especially looking for work in Cheadle Staffs (Only kidding Rob)
Sorry add to add that one.
Most of our work is Staffs based, Stafford, Stoke, Newcastle, Burton, Tamworth, Rugely, Leek, Lichfield, Cannock & have small jobs in all ather areas.
I am very interested mainly in large commercial. We do mainly large offices & council buildings, but, do a lot of small premises in between.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Gary
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Hi Gary,
I returned your email yeterday. I'm very dubious of anyone who's good friends with Rob McClean! ::)
West Midlands has gone....could have sold it a couple of times over, we get a lot of enquiries up that way. Will let you know about the others when I get to the office tomorrow.
Cheers,
Huw.
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Ok Huw
Most work in staffordshire so would definately want that area.
Cheers
Gary
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I am looking for work in the wirral cheshire and liverpool areas so how would your scheme work.
sorry if it is an obvious question but as you can see I am a Newbie :P
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big j wer u from pal i live in ellesmere port
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hi
I live in neston