Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: groundhog on April 07, 2009, 10:27:01 pm
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I've been considering getting an auto-brush, as I'm fed up with fiddly taps! Does anybody use one, and if so what do you think of them? I don't want to fork out £60 on one if they are no good! Thanks :)
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Hi Groundhog,you can adapt it to any brush i believe now which is better as the 15" brush it used to come with you`d hate.
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Thanks NWH, do you use one?
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i use it daily, best thing you will ever use, i am amazed why everyone is not using it
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i second that joe ;)
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and thats another reason why scrimman gets his 55 houses done in a day ;D all those little things add up you know lol
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stirrer 8)
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;D ;D ;D dont forget the clampless pole, i will give your secrets away lol
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lol :D
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I had one,... it was good when I had a smaller tank, defo saves a lot of water.
To be honest though the weight put me off (The switch mechanism adds about 150 grams to the brush), so when \i got a bigger tank and RO I just gave it to a mate who was starting up.
The salmon brush that is supplied as standard is weighty too,.. I transferred the switch onto a bentley type diy brush after a few months of struggling with the salmon one!
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it can be added to any of the super lite brushes to make up for the weight, but to be honest, i take it of weekly for maintainance and its not that heavy, i found away round this issue, but as its peters idea, its only fair not to disclose it,
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Numatic George trigger on the pole is infinitely better.
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i use it daily, best thing you will ever use, i am amazed why everyone is not using it
I totally agree with you, I've used one ever since i started to use wfp 3 1/2 years, and wouldn't use anything else.
I don't really find the weight an issue at all and it's certainly a lot easier than using an in line tap.
John
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Thanks guys, where do I order one from?
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Numatic George trigger on the pole is infinitely better.
I've never used an 'autobrush', so I can't comment on that.
However, I have 'Numatic' triggers on 4 poles. They have all been trouble-free and maintenance-free and have saved me 'loads' of water.
The ease of the 'on/off' action is the main 'plus', allowing you to 'scrub' without the continuous flow of water (which can sometimes be wasteful).
Mike
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i cant work out how to fit a trigger ? is their a link to fitting one
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Just to let everyone know I now use a lighter Salmon brush as standard for the Autobrush, it is now the lightest professional brush on the market that I know of. It also makes the Autobrush a little cheaper.
Mike triggers can be OK if you want to use many different sizes of poles instead of one pole. Personally I wouldn't want to be swapping poles over, and wasting time doing so.
Peter
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Just to let everyone know I now use a lighter Salmon brush as standard for the Autobrush, it is now the lightest professional brush on the market that I know of. It also makes the Autobrush a little cheaper.
Mike triggers can be OK if you want to use many different sizes of poles instead of one pole. Personally I wouldn't want to be swapping poles over, and wasting time doing so.
Peter
What do you mean Peter? I use one pole, one trigger for all my jobs?
What is the weight of the salmon brush without the Autobrush assembly?
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i cant work out how to fit a trigger ? is their a link to fitting one
Simple, use some zipties, it's not elegant, but in lack of a better solution it works very well.
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... or a 'Jubilee clip' (There is a slot in the base of the trigger assembly).
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Just to let everyone know I now use a lighter Salmon brush as standard for the Autobrush, it is now the lightest professional brush on the market that I know of. It also makes the Autobrush a little cheaper.
Mike triggers can be OK if you want to use many different sizes of poles instead of one pole. Personally I wouldn't want to be swapping poles over, and wasting time doing so.
Peter
What do you mean Peter? I use one pole, one trigger for all my jobs?
What is the weight of the salmon brush without the Autobrush assembly?
The bare brush is 312g
Mike 108 has 4 poles and I assume he needs different sizes of poles, because of having a trigger fitted to each one.
If using the one pole then the trigger would need to be taken off every time you wanted to add or take away sections. The trigger also has the disadvantage of having pole hose between the trigger and the top of the pole to allow for the pole to extend, this can get in the way and caught on things. If you take a look at the picture in the previous page you will see hose coming down from the left hand side of the trigger, this section of hose would have to be 18 foot long for an 18 foot pole, and 40 foot long for a 40 foot pole. Now when you are moving around with the pole the hose gets in the way.
The idea of the Autobrush is to eliminate such problems, and it does completely. Yes a trigger may be a way to save water but it brings along another set of problems. I personally played around with triggers and if there were no problems then there would be no Autobrush. The new Autobrush saves water and adds no problems. Yes it may be a bit more expensive than an ordinary brush, but you get far more in return.
Peter
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so this autobrush system is it a trigger type system for controlling water flow
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so this autobrush system is it a trigger type system for controlling water flow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1V7uQd-mDY
Peter
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so this autobrush system is it a trigger type system for controlling water flow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1V7uQd-mDY
Peter
doesn't tell ye much that does it. what is it's purpose and how is it worked etc
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watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrrpH68eKOU
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Just to let everyone know I now use a lighter Salmon brush as standard for the Autobrush, it is now the lightest professional brush on the market that I know of. It also makes the Autobrush a little cheaper.
Mike triggers can be OK if you want to use many different sizes of poles instead of one pole. Personally I wouldn't want to be swapping poles over, and wasting time doing so.
Peter
The bare brush is 312g
You dont know about the Super-lite brush then? it weighs 260g and is made for window cleaning unlike the salmon
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watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrrpH68eKOU
The only problem with that video is that the Autobrush has been improved quite considerably since then.
Peter
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Just to let everyone know I now use a lighter Salmon brush as standard for the Autobrush, it is now the lightest professional brush on the market that I know of. It also makes the Autobrush a little cheaper.
Mike triggers can be OK if you want to use many different sizes of poles instead of one pole. Personally I wouldn't want to be swapping poles over, and wasting time doing so.
Peter
The bare brush is 312g
You dont know about the Super-lite brush then? it weighs 260g and is made for window cleaning unlike the salmon
Is that Alex's new white bristle brush? If so the brush I use is I think 15gms lighter. I weighed one two weeks ago while fitting the Autobrush mechanism on it.
Peter
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Is that Alex's new white bristle brush? If so the brush I use is I think 15gms lighter. I weighed one two weeks ago while fitting the Autobrush mechanism on it.
How can it be lighter, yours is 312g, Alex's brush is 260g ( the heavier version is 270g ) ? Would be interested if it is though! Can you post a picture of it Peter?
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Just to let everyone know I now use a lighter Salmon brush as standard for the Autobrush, it is now the lightest professional brush on the market that I know of. It also makes the Autobrush a little cheaper.
Mike triggers can be OK if you want to use many different sizes of poles instead of one pole. Personally I wouldn't want to be swapping poles over, and wasting time doing so.
Peter
The bare brush is 312g
You dont know about the Super-lite brush then? it weighs 260g and is made for window cleaning unlike the salmon
The Autobrush is much more than just a Salmon brush, and it was made for window cleaning hence the reason for the valve for turning the water on and off, and the fan sprays fitted. Sometimes you don't need things made specially for a certain trade, as sometimes what is available is perfect for the job, with a little modification.
Peter
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Is that Alex's new white bristle brush? If so the brush I use is I think 15gms lighter. I weighed one two weeks ago while fitting the Autobrush mechanism on it.
How can it be lighter, yours is 312g, Alex's brush is 260g ( the heavier version is 270g ) ? Would be interested if it is though! Can you post a picture of it Peter?
The 312g is before I have drilled any holes or taken away a row of bristles. I did weigh both of them a couple of weeks ago, and although there was very little in it, mines was lighter. I will post a pic later.
Peter
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The superlight is is definately lighter than the salmon. Just weighed mine and its 220g.
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ooh cool!! get a pic up
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The superlight is is definately lighter than the salmon. Just weighed mine and its 220g.
There seems to be quite a difference in the weights mentioned. Is the brush your talking about the Bentley type brush, or the one with the white bristles? The Salmon brush has a few different designs.
Peter
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The Tucker is a light brush but when you compare the SL brush to it it feels heavy.
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Peter ,
1.can i just buy the mechanism with instructions to fit to another brush
2.do you supply the autobrush with pencil jets?
Matt
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Peter ,
1.can i just buy the mechanism with instructions to fit to another brush
2.do you supply the autobrush with pencil jets?
Matt
Yes to both Matt, but I prefer to fit it to the brush myself, so as I know it is setup properly.
Peter
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I had two autobrush swiches and both broke, they either wouldn't turn the water on or wouldn't turn it off, I did away with it in the end and now use a trigger, as Peter says though the pole hose is a pain getting caught on things
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I had two autobrush swiches and both broke, they either wouldn't turn the water on or wouldn't turn it off, I did away with it in the end and now use a trigger, as Peter says though the pole hose is a pain getting caught on things
How long ago was that Rich? A while ago I was getting quite a few problems with switches, but since changing the position of the switch on the brush, and the metal toggles instead of the plastic ones, I seem to have a very reliable product now. They would have been under guarantee if you had them less than a year, and you could have sent them back for repair or replacement.
Peter
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I had two autobrush swiches and both broke, they either wouldn't turn the water on or wouldn't turn it off, I did away with it in the end and now use a trigger, as Peter says though the pole hose is a pain getting caught on things
How long ago was that Rich? A while ago I was getting quite a few problems with switches, but since changing the position of the switch on the brush, and the metal toggles instead of the plastic ones, I seem to have a very reliable product now. They would have been under guarantee if you had them less than a year, and you could have sent them back for repair or replacement.
Peter
I did get a replacement from you Peter, but sadly it went the same way as the 1st one. The stuff I got from you was purchased January 2008. The switch was the metal toggle type too.
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The superlight is is definately lighter than the salmon. Just weighed mine and its 220g.
There seems to be quite a difference in the weights mentioned. Is the brush your talking about the Bentley type brush, or the one with the white bristles? The Salmon brush has a few different designs.
Peter
It's these brushes. :)
www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Premium_Super-Lite_brushes.html (http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Premium_Super-Lite_brushes.html)
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Yes Tim that's the brush I adapted to an Autobush and weighed while I was at it, and it was definitely a touch heavier than the Salmon brush. I must have got the weight of mines wrong today, I will weigh it tomorrow.
Peter
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The superlight is is definately lighter than the salmon. Just weighed mine and its 220g.
There seems to be quite a difference in the weights mentioned. Is the brush your talking about the Bentley type brush, or the one with the white bristles? The Salmon brush has a few different designs.
Yes its definately the super light not the bentley. It has had quite a bit of use (but no modification) so its probably lost a a little bit of weight, but my scales say 220g
Robin
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I had two autobrush swiches and both broke, they either wouldn't turn the water on or wouldn't turn it off, I did away with it in the end and now use a trigger, as Peter says though the pole hose is a pain getting caught on things
How long ago was that Rich? A while ago I was getting quite a few problems with switches, but since changing the position of the switch on the brush, and the metal toggles instead of the plastic ones, I seem to have a very reliable product now. They would have been under guarantee if you had them less than a year, and you could have sent them back for repair or replacement.
Peter
I did get a replacement from you Peter, but sadly it went the same way as the 1st one. The stuff I got from you was purchased January 2008. The switch was the metal toggle type too.
I take it you had the 15" with the left to right switch motion? The toggles were more exposed on these, and easier damaged if the toggle took a hit.
Peter
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For anyone who is interested the 11" Autobrush complete with angle joint and all connectors to pole hose is 478g. And for those of you familiar with the old style 15" Autobrush that switched from left to right, the weight of that one complete is 732g, so quite a considerable difference. I also weighed a 10" oval shaped Vikan with alloy goose neck and it came in at 766g.
Peter
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I had one,... it was good when I had a smaller tank, defo saves a lot of water.
(The switch mechanism adds about 150 grams to the brush
The switch mechanism now only adds 58g.
Peter
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i would like a switch mechanisn on gardiners dt flocked brush ;)
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i would like a switch mechanisn on gardiners dt flocked brush ;)
Hi Matt, was it you that phoned me up this afternoon?
Peter
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i would like a switch mechanisn on gardiners dt flocked brush ;)
Aye, Me Too,
Kevin
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i would like a switch mechanisn on gardiners dt flocked brush ;)
Hi Matt, was it you that phoned me up this afternoon?
Peter
no not me peter
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Kevin and Matt, you are more than welcome to send your brushes in to be modified, that way we know it is set-up properly.
If you are interested you can send the brush to..
17 Blairmuir Terrace
Broxburn
West lothian
EH52 5HF
Peter
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how much would it cost peter?
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Kevin and Matt, you are more than welcome to send your brushes in to be modified, that way we know it is set-up properly.
Peter
Hi peter,
I'm in the queue for one of your clampless poles, on which I would likexa gardiner DT Flocked Superlight brush. So if I send you one, will it fit ok on your pole?
Thanks kevin.
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i would like a switch mechanisn on gardiners dt flocked brush ;)
Hi Matt, was it you that phoned me up this afternoon?
Peter
Hi peter,
I rang you on Friday last......
Kevin.