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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Bryan_Dolby on March 30, 2009, 07:56:02 pm
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Is David gettting like the Beckams
Now his editorial and picture of him doing safe contractor is in the FWC window talk (He is a member )
What magazine will he be in next?
Bryan
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Playboy ;D
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Playboy ;D
Play GIRL more like
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Playboy ;D
Play GIRL more like
You've obviously never seen him!! :-X
;D ;)
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What magazine will he be in next?
Bryan
Probably the centre spread in Saga magazine Bryan ;D
Sorry Dave could not resist ;D
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For any one getting into commercial
Daves done one hell of a good marketing campain with safe contractor
And joining the FWC
Bryan
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I think you have to speak to Mike if you want to do some advertising here, Bryan.
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Bryan,
I've just had a quick look at your back posts; and every one of them that I saw mentions 'The Fed'.
Why not help some of the members out here with their - non Fed questions - rather than push the Fed; and maybe advertise the Fed in some sort of oblique way?
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Yeah well Tosh he is the Chairman now!
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What magazine will he be in next?
Bryan
Probably the centre spread in Saga magazine Bryan ;D
Sorry Dave could not resist ;D
WCE,
I didn't know that; but even Steve Lowe, who hasn't posted here since January 'couldn't resist' a comment!
Is he anything to do with the Fed? ;D
I've nothing against Fed members posting, but instead of just trying to purely advertise 'The Fed', which I hold my own views on; why don't they impart of some of their huge wealth of knowledge to some of us lesser mortals?
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Bryan, I've just sent an e-mail to the FWC about someone using the logo on their web site when I don't think they are members. How long before I get a reply?
And joining the FWC
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What magazine will he be in next?
Bryan
Probably the centre spread in Saga magazine Bryan ;D
Sorry Dave could not resist ;D
WCE,
I didn't know that; but even Steve Lowe, who hasn't posted here since January 'couldn't resist' a comment!
Is he anything to do with the Fed? ;D
I've nothing against Fed members posting, but instead of just trying to purely advertise 'The Fed', which I hold my own views on; why don't they impart of some of their huge wealth of knowledge to some of us lesser mortals?
Yes he's member number 9787 ;) ;D
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You know what rankled me with 'The Fed' doing a bit of sly free advertising; it's the same as one of those dodgy guys from some supplying company trying to pass himself off as a 'happy customer', when really all he's doing is trying to advertise his product on the cheap.
I've met David of St Ives; he's a big character; he's made himself successful; and his Missis!
But by Bryan Dolby, Chairman of the Fed by 'bigging' up David and strongly suggesting it was Safe Contractor, and 'Oh, and the Fed', that made him successful is far from the truth.
And we, as thick-humble-window-cleaners are expected to believe all this rubbish.
My advice to Bryan and Steve is that if you want to advertise the Fed, advertise it, but do it overtly; rather than 'on the sly'.
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Dave has done really well these last four years, in fact since he went WFP. I really admire the guy, he bought more work, took on an employee, and has never looked back.
They say behind every successful man there's a good women, and Dave has posted in the past about how big a contribution his Mrs has made to his business.
The more free publicity comes his way, the more work he will get from it.
I probably won't be here, if he ever gets round to writing his memoirs, but if he ever does it would make fascinating reading to all wannabe window cleaners.
Good luck to you Dave, I would really love to know how you got that rocket up your backside, and if they still have any left, I want one. Dai
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Tosh
I am no longer on the fed commitee and am just a member like some others on here.
I made the comment back to Bryan and Dave as a joke and not to advertise the fed ::)
Steve
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Ewan, once you learn how to use a squeegy and start paying some income tax, then talk to me about window cleaning.
Oh, I do have insurance; you've got that wrong too! I need it for certain jobs I do.
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Ewan,
You make me laugh!
I'm just a window cleaner, mate.
;D
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You have to Milk it for all its worth, ;D you dont get a second chance at these things, next mag is C&M I Think
Tosh, the FED are free to advertise, they are not fot profit. The guild get a hell of a lot more publicity on here and they do a lot more blatant advertising.
I will try to get Bryan to post more, come on Bryan. :-*
I am on the second day of my IOSH managing safely course and when its complete i will milk that too. :-X
Dai
If You want a chat anytime give me a ring, wait until weekend or all next week as i am tied up with the course
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Saga
Steve is that the same one you was in 15 years ago ?
;D
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Tosh, the FED are free to advertise, they are not fot profit.
Are you sure? What was that item about them selling the Fed's offices; making some of the Committee Members a lot of money; and now they're renting?
So they've went from cheap paid accommodation to expensive renting accommodation!
I could be wrong, but I'll dig up the relevant posts later today, since duty calls.
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FEDS offices are nothing special its just an old detatched house in a housing estate in manchester...
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this dave guy seems to know his stuff i'll give him that.
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Tosh
Renting or owning , both have there pros and cons, most high street chains dont own there own buildings, they free up the capital to concentrate on there core business.
I could be wrong but I think the point Tosh was making was the FED sold their building and made some cash back because they are not run on a non profit basis.
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They sold off the assurance society which was separate to the FED
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The Fed own there building as they bought it off of the assurance society a few years ago.
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Thats it, i am getting confused lol, been a long day
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So what was this post all about:
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=25116.0
Get a cup of tea/coffee before you read it!
But to me it sounded like some of the committee members owned the offices, wanted to sell it, though they didn't have too; so they could make money out of the deal.
Then rent the premises; which would obviously be more expensive.
Am I wrong?
???
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Tosh
The truth on what really happens within the FWC is always different to what is suggested on this site
I personally put the post on for a bit of fun
Bryan
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Sorry Neil
Will look it that tommorow and get back to you
bryan
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Tosh
The truth on what really happens within the FWC is always different to what is suggested on this site
Bryan
Well tell us the gossip; er, I mean truth!
Andrew Mullen suggested that there was cloak and dagger stuff going on within the FWC with regards to a FWC property and committee members serving their own interests; this was around the peak of the property market; and some of the committee members were about to get a substantial amount of money from the sale of the FWC property; even if it wasn't in the interests of the FWC members.
Did that happen?
If you give a concise answer, I'll never ever have a dig at the FWC again! But mud sticks, and as far as I'm concerned; you sound a dodgy lot.
Sorry, but it's just my opinion.
Remember the Philip Hanson thing too?
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Tosh
I have no legal right to discuss publicly about the FWC and assurance socitey buisness
If you were a member of either then you would have had a right to a answer for your questions
Tosh
If you were not a member of either then legally have you a right to ask questions
If you want to know the truth then PM your contact details and i will talk to you but nothing can be put on this site
Bryan
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Bryan,
I'll consider your offer; but to be honest, I don't see why the FWC can't be open and transparent; even to non members. It may attract new members?
What have they got to hide? What's so bad they can't say, here, look at my accounts; look at our history of what we've done with our members money.
Why all the secrecy? I'm sure you understand; just look what's happening in the news with regards to MPs at the moment.
David of St Ives says you're a non profit organisation; but non profit organisations have many perks; I know; I served with the UN and as a lowly soldier was given lots of perks, including a brand new Cherokee Jeep and 52 seater buses I could hire to ferry my mates around different pubs on the Dalmation Coast; I abused the priveliges, because I could; that's human nature.
Big non-profit organisations = big rip off!
In my honest opinion; I've met blokes who do well - financially - from these sort of organisations.
Maybe I've been overly harsh; I've had a tough day cleaning windows! But that's the perception I have.
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Tosh
I only speak from my own point of view, as you can see heads did not roll.
And where are those who kicked up the fuss in the first place.
They seem to have gone very quiet havent they ?
Ask yourself, what was happening at the time, let me see, the birth of a new association by any chance, nothing to do with the accusations I suppose ?
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Dave,
You know I like you, but you also know I do all the cooking in our house!
The timer on the cooker is about to go 'ding' and our lasange thing is going to be ready in about one minute; I'm a touch-typist; honest; so I'll be quick.
I don't think the Fed is for me, so I have no problems having a dig at them; and from what I've read, it could be well-deserved; maybe.
What's all the secrecy thing? Blimey; we're all window cleaners at the end of the day; so why isn't the financial workings of the FWC open for even non-members to see? What have they got to hide?
Ding ding ding; back later.
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FWC is a trade association for professional window cleaners.
This isn’t complicated, it’s not a question and your views or opinions on this mean nothing, it’s just the FWC is the trade association for professional window cleaners.
Some will never understand this, you can read, but you just don’t understand.
;D
Ewan,
What's a professional window cleaner?
Although I/we don't earn 'big bucks', I know a few window cleaners who have 'top days' that would make your eyes water.
None of them are members of FWC, Safe Contractor, Boy Scouts, PIRA, CIRA, or the Free Masons.
But they all do a good job, safely; and have years of experience behind them.
They can use a squeegie, and pay income tax also; unlike you!
So what's your point?
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Bryan,
I'll consider your offer; but to be honest, I don't see why the FWC can't be open and transparent; even to non members. It may attract new members?
What have they got to hide? What's so bad they can't say, here, look at my accounts; look at our history of what we've done with our members money.
Why all the secrecy? I'm sure you understand; just look what's happening in the news with regards to MPs at the moment.
David of St Ives says you're a non profit organisation; but non profit organisations have many perks; I know; I served with the UN and as a lowly soldier was given lots of perks, including a brand new Cherokee Jeep and 52 seater buses I could hire to ferry my mates around different pubs on the Dalmation Coast; I abused the priveliges, because I could; that's human nature.
Big non-profit organisations = big rip off!
In my honest opinion; I've met blokes who do well - financially - from these sort of organisations.
Maybe I've been overly harsh; I've had a tough day cleaning windows! But that's the perception I have.
Why does the FWC and it's accountability (or lack of?) bother you so much Tosh?
Just askin' :)
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I'm no big fan of the Fed, and I've had my differences with Bryan over the years, but if you want to know about FWC business and their accounts etc then you'll have to join to find out.
This is like a non shareholder of Virgin demanding to know about their accounts. What answer do you think Richard Branson would give you. Only those paid up to the FWC can demand answers to FWC activities.
now if you suspect there has been illegal activities going on then the right channel would be the Police.
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All Fed members have just got there latest edition of Window Talk, and with it came a copy of the Federations Trading and Profit and Loss Accounts for year ending 2008.