Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: robert meldrum on March 28, 2009, 10:09:31 am
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With yet another T/M in the for sale section I've lost count of the number of machines coming on the market recently.
This one apparently needs some TLC but at £1800 must be real value for someone ready to take the plunge.
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I wonder if these people selling are giving up or upgrading.... I sincerely hope they're upgrading!
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Robert
I have been thinking the same and as you say its a bargain,just for the person who can sort out all the probs with it.
Dont forget its costing the t mount to work with fuel so they have to put the extra on for the job and with c cleaning sort of becoming a luxury for some price will come into the factor at some point ???
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I would also presume spare parts that are imported from the US will have doubled in price due to drop
in the pound.
Andrew
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Never thought of that ::)
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Dont no how much parts are for Truckmounts but i cant see them being much more than for portys ive spent over £400+vat on a pump and vac this year already also have a machine sitting here less than 2 years old paid £2500 with a pump nobody seems to no whats wrong with if i had a bigger van i would of bought a second hand tuckmount by now.
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You have probs with your new machine ???
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Clinton,
you dont have to add any extra to the price ticket at all ,because of the fuel.
i can run a t/m and burner on red deisel for around £30 per week , thats a busy week , you make your money by saving time , so no need for extra price.
Infact when I think about it it can be embarrasing, when I have a small job min charge @ £45 and it takes 20 mins , still shouldnt moan really ;)
parts well I,ve had portys , and forever spending money on pumps . motor rewinds vac motors etc .
Geoff
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Hi geoff
Just was going to ask that question and have never asked it before.
That does not sound bad running on the red deisel ???
How much does the petrol running t mount cost per hour or the prowler ???
Yes can imagine on the small jobs taking little time and doing the job ;D
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My 318 uses about £30 normal week but can be more if its running on one job all day.
Clinton just cut back on your weekly perm and hair care products and you wont notice the fuel mate :) :) ;D
mark
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petrol t/m's cost about £5 an hour to run but you have to remember that you can extract ( not clean) a 3 bed house in 1 hour. if you turn your machine off in between pre sprays (which i do) then it hardly effects the cost off the job.
derek
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Derek
fiver an hour then?
So lets just say in example i work 10 to 15 hours a week thats about 50 to 75 pounds then.
Mark :)
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My 318 uses about 3 to 3.5 litres an hour so approx £3.50, less on upholstery as I turn the revs down.
The speed helps but after using a porty for so long a bit of a shock to the wallet.
Clinton are you going to be the next to take advantage of a bargain ebay TM ?
MARK
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no clinton, if you work for 20 hours a week, and lets say you work for £50 an hour, thats £1000. your TM will only be running for about 8 hours, so thats £40 per £1000 earnings.
depends how you work but i turn TM off when not in use so for intance, a 1 hour job will be sorting furniture pre spraying and agitating, then TM on, extract for 20 to 30 mins then off and finish the job. if i was doing a smallish living room, the TM would only be switched on for about 10 mins, also, you can do twice as much with a truckmount so you can increase your takings dramatically anyway.
derek
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Derek
Yes got that with the set up and then extracting time :)
Mark
Not sure yet as would like a new set up like yourselves as dont want to go used really as its going to last me hopefully :)
Yes bet its a shock on the wallet and at the mo i keep all the money so it takes time to get used to then.
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Hi Guys
I can't say I've really noticed the cost as you can clean so much more that one extra room a week easily covers the fuel.
Like last job yeaterday, i actually did two extra small rooms for 50, total job 130 finished and packed away, 90 mins so hardly back breaking.
It was an oldish later who did not want to spend too much but the sheer power and cleanability meant I could do her whole(small) house in that time.
Cheers
Doug
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My 470 costs less than £2 per hour to run !. LPG.
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Definitely upgrading sold him my rug doctor ;D ;D
Len
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I think a lot of people held off despite doing fairly well this year, wondering how the recession will affect them.
With the worst months of the year out of the way and everything looking as good if not better for some, this has led to seasoned pros upgrading and bottom feeders like me siezing second hand opportunities :)
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How has the week gone Mike.? Doing OK? Got used to it?
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Joe
How big is your 250 litre water tank ie in inches ???
Cheers
mike
Hows the set up going ???
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Clinton
http://www.restormate.co.uk/epages/15094.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/15094/Products/250U-NA-40
Mine was a 275 litre flat, the above is 250 litre upright.
Current one for the Prowler 15hp i 400 litre upright.
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Joe any Pics?
mark
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Hi Joe
Still got a smile on my face. ;D
Did a variety of jobs this week including a couple of suites and it made short work of them. End of tenancies which I just blasted through. Loads of time spare between jobs where I've overestimated.
What about you Joe, hows the Prowler in comparison day to day?
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I cleaned a berber today, I clean it every 6 months as it's in a silly place where they walk in from the street but I pre spray it and rake it and clean it, van parked directly outside takes 20 mins from start to finish £55 that's why a TM is good, my next job was a large stairs and landing and had to get 2 lengths of pipe out, I was disgusted couldn't they have a smaller landing!!
Shaun
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Mark
Take some photos tomorrow or Monday and get them up here for you all.
Wanted to get the new carpet in to it but that will have to wait to the bank holiday.
Mike
Glad you enjoying it - different world is'nt it.
How do I find the Prowler? Yep, its very good. Although its a smaller engine then the Avenger (15hp compared to 18hp), I think because the design is probably 10 years younger the Prowler has the edge. The heat is certainly greater, and because there is no waste tank and the blower is so close to the suction hose connection at the front of the machine the efficiency is that much better.
It has been difficult to start but I am working on that and fell as if I am winning slowly, but when its running it really is good. Have to slow down a bit on jobs cause its so efficient.
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No point of upgrading to something lesser the plumbing is the key to its success I bet it has the power of a 318 and maybe a 421.
Have you worked out its running costs yet Joe? (pay attention Clinton)
Shaun
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I see there's a Blazer Plus on ebay for sub £2k which is basically the same as the Avenger. It has a tatty front panel but that's purely cosmetic.
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Yes Mike, and it just needs a few bob spent on it by the sounds of it too.
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Cheers joe for the link to the sizes :)
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Eh up Clinton
Are you looking forward to next Sunday? :)
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Mike
Monday ;)