Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: p-pole on March 22, 2009, 11:23:18 am
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Did anyone buy the Baudoin wash systems after the cleaning show ? Thought the poles were great but very expensive. What about the indoor cleaning system does it have a future in the cleaning game. I spoke to the company on the phone and turns out you have to add 19 % vat to their prices.
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Im going to make my own indoor cleaning pole for a new contract I won, it doesn't need to be anything very complicated, the principle is simple.
It will be similar to the Baudoin one.
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just use this hudson pak as your water pump, you can use the superlite pole, or a harris pole, what ever you can afford, the rest is easy
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/trainingacademy/ImageFetch.jpg)
http://www.mowermagic.co.uk/acatalog/HUDSON_NEVERPUMP.html
https://www.janitorialsupplies.co.uk/php/browseCategory.php?cat=131&catClr=
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Hi, mates.
I have paid for the Baudoin outdoor & indoor poles and trolley as well. Plan to get in 1,5 weeks. Very expensive, indeed. The kit costs me 2,850 euros ex-works (35ft). But we have the contracts for indoor wc in auto and trade centers.
Vadim
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just use this hudson pak as your water pump, you can use the superlite pole, or a harris pole, what ever you can afford, the rest is easy
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x75/trainingacademy/ImageFetch.jpg)
http://www.mowermagic.co.uk/acatalog/HUDSON_NEVERPUMP.html
https://www.janitorialsupplies.co.uk/php/browseCategory.php?cat=131&catClr=
That's excellent! I might just use that! :)
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They are based here in Holland...everything here is expensive....
I recently got a quote for a 650l lay flat water tank from a company here...640 euros was the price....!!! a set of 3 filters for a ro system 10"...62 euro's.....
http://www.glazenwasserswinkel.nl/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=163&category_id=25&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26
http://www.glazenwasserswinkel.nl/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=410&category_id=2&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26
Despite the 19% VAT here..the price difference is truely scary...hence why I buy all my bits from the UK and normally in bulk.
Cheers
Dave.
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Those are ridiculous prices.
I'm glad I moved to the UK. ;)
Btw, that garden sprayer thing just begs to be used on a small x-tel, and that microfibre swivel pad. Who's going to try it first!!
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Only downside to it is it runs on small batteries. I have made 2 prototypes on off a flojet and one from a garden sprayer. The big problem I am having is finding small vaporising jets, otherwise even pin hole size jets squirt too far too much water.
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Only downside to it is it runs on small batteries. I have made 2 prototypes on off a flojet and one from a garden sprayer. The big problem I am having is finding small vaporising jets, otherwise even pin hole size jets squirt too far too much water.
Hi jeff,
Have you tried your local agricultural dealer? There are systems for spraying iodine onto cows teats. This comes out as a very fine spray & the nozzles can be plastic or stainless. (1/4" bsp)
(ambic or Cotswold are the big players)
Kevin.
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jeff, i use the nozzle from an old pressure sprayer i had, you turn the numpty and you get fine mist, to pencil
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I have popped on this thread as Clive asked me about it
i might have missed something ( and i didnt go to the show, thus i havent seen it ), but its just a flat pad ( like you get for laminate floors and a spray ) alot like the FLASH mops they sell, couldnt you just take the head of the FLASH mop and use that ? ? ? ?
have i got the right idea on what this is ?? ? ?
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yes you got it right matt, we are taking about diying an inside wfp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uK0ujs9RGM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ew%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded
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Only downside to it is it runs on small batteries. I have made 2 prototypes on off a flojet and one from a garden sprayer. The big problem I am having is finding small vaporising jets, otherwise even pin hole size jets squirt too far too much water.
Hi jeff,
Have you tried your local agricultural dealer? There are systems for spraying iodine onto cows teats. This comes out as a very fine spray & the nozzles can be plastic or stainless. (1/4" bsp)
(ambic or Cotswold are the big players)
Kevin.
Thanks Kev, thanks Joe, will do. ;)
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Am i right in thinking the pole in the pic was a baudoin?
I thought the poles dear, but i didn't realise that was the complete system, i wonder how much the cloths are?
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I was told the cloths are about £5 each.
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Only downside to it is it runs on small batteries. I have made 2 prototypes on off a flojet and one from a garden sprayer. The big problem I am having is finding small vaporising jets, otherwise even pin hole size jets squirt too far too much water.
Jeff, try jouks idea....or why not phone baudoin up and order their jets!!!
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I dont speak double dutch ;) but did get some freebie cleaning solutions off the guy in the crocodile shoes.
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What about the plume spray nozzle for £15.95 on here
http://www.simplycontrol.com/catalogue/humid/default.asp
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Um, surely the biggest drawback of this system is keeping the pad clean? We all know that microfibre cloths don't work very well when they get damp and dirty - you just end up pushing the dirt around. I would imagine you would get through a pad per large pane easily. I haven't seen the system but it does look flawed. A squeegie still works fairly well even with dirty water. I think the future for inside cleaning would be more like the electrical Karcher unit but more advanced. That has a squeegie and simply sucks the dirty water away into a container.
We already have the poles so we are halfway there. ;)
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I have popped on this thread as Clive asked me about it
i might have missed something ( and i didnt go to the show, thus i havent seen it ), but its just a flat pad ( like you get for laminate floors and a spray ) alot like the FLASH mops they sell, couldnt you just take the head of the FLASH mop and use that ? ? ? ?
have i got the right idea on what this is ?? ? ?
I have got one of those electric Flash mops for hard floors and they work very well. They have an excellent swivel, removable pads and a very good battery run spray which has a button on the handle, this sprays from a changeable bottle. With no effort you could use it as an indoor system. Cost us about £8 in Asda they had them on sale. You could easily fit ordinary microfibre cleaning pads to the head as it uses Velcro to hold the current floor pads in place. It even has a scritchy pad on one side for stubborn marks. I really think they have done the job for us at a bargain price, just fill the bottle with pure water (and maybe isopropanyl) and away you go.
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I didn't go to the show so I haven't seen it close up. I have just watched the you tube video from jouk's link. Does it really work? I have done many jobs where the windows were dirtier on the insides than the outsides, surely this would just smear it around the window.
The windows in the video looked pretty clean already.
I'm going to have to have a play spraying pure water and using micofibre pads.
Also on regular cleans is there any reason then why it wouldn't work on outside windows? It would get rid of a lot of problems like weight of tanks, hose pipe bans producing 000's of litres of water a week etc.
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I have popped on this thread as Clive asked me about it
i might have missed something ( and i didnt go to the show, thus i havent seen it ), but its just a flat pad ( like you get for laminate floors and a spray ) alot like the FLASH mops they sell, couldnt you just take the head of the FLASH mop and use that ? ? ? ?
have i got the right idea on what this is ?? ? ?
I have got one of those electric Flash mops for hard floors and they work very well. They have an excellent swivel, removable pads and a very good battery run spray which has a button on the handle, this sprays from a changeable bottle. With no effort you could use it as an indoor system. Cost us about £8 in Asda they had them on sale. You could easily fit ordinary microfibre cleaning pads to the head as it uses Velcro to hold the current floor pads in place. It even has a scritchy pad on one side for stubborn marks. I really think they have done the job for us at a bargain price, just fill the bottle with pure water (and maybe isopropanyl) and away you go.
that seems the right idea alex, are they light enough to hold up,
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It's 1.2kg with half a bottle of liquid. Fine for two-handed use, you wouldn't really want to use it one-handed.
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Is the flash handle threaded or riveted on? I can't tell from the pic.
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Screwed on.
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So it might be possible to whack it on the end of a bare wfp for higher work inside if you can figure a way of triggering the squirter.
I can see a new logo already - Aquaflash!
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think it would be just a wire running through the pole, to the handle, extending it should be easy enough
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I have popped on this thread as Clive asked me about it
i might have missed something ( and i didnt go to the show, thus i havent seen it ), but its just a flat pad ( like you get for laminate floors and a spray ) alot like the FLASH mops they sell, couldnt you just take the head of the FLASH mop and use that ? ? ? ?
have i got the right idea on what this is ?? ? ?
I have got one of those electric Flash mops for hard floors and they work very well. They have an excellent swivel, removable pads and a very good battery run spray which has a button on the handle, this sprays from a changeable bottle. With no effort you could use it as an indoor system. Cost us about £8 in Asda they had them on sale. You could easily fit ordinary microfibre cleaning pads to the head as it uses Velcro to hold the current floor pads in place. It even has a scritchy pad on one side for stubborn marks. I really think they have done the job for us at a bargain price, just fill the bottle with pure water (and maybe isopropanyl) and away you go.
exactly what i was on about
the only issue it the switch ( to squirt the water ), but you could ditch the batteries in it and just mount a small battery on a belt ( in a pouch ) and fit a switch to it
job done, problem solved
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I dont speak double dutch ;) but did get some freebie cleaning solutions off the guy in the crocodile shoes.
that guy in the crocodile shoes, he lives in canne! very rich I pressume
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Brilliant team effort on finding a solution. well done all, what the forums all about.
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Brilliant team effort on finding a solution. well done all, what the forums all about.
you only had to ask me clive, you know me, a knowledge of all things bodgy ;D ;D
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Just tested a special weave microfibre pad designed specifically for internal window cleaning first sample of the product was released today Great for
xterior glass - cleaned a vehicle windscreen with it and the cloth was then coated in dirt and too wet to use on other glass. Definantly somthing that we will be looking at developing over the next few weeks/months.
The normal microfibre pads although they work well are not as good or as quick as this new weave, I would think that as many as 20 of the new pads
would be needed a day for office window type work as when they become too damp the efficiancy declines.
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you could get some1 with a sewing machine to stitch a micro fibre cloth to form a pocket and just slide it over the FLASH pad
job done
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Looking at the baudoin video i believe that the underlying principle is that given that the glass is 'already clean' a very fine mist of pure water,not enough to cause a run or a dribble is applied.This is then wiped to give a line free finish, much the equivalent of dusting something that is already clean. As we know inside windows dry very fast so a constant spray of mist is sustainable and the pad will never, ever become too wet to use.
It may become too dirty to use.
A wet and dirty windscreen wasn't a fair test.
I'll put a photo up of a pad system.
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Just a thought - what's the point in using pure water with a pad?
Suppose the jets might stay cleaner for longer.
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They were selling these cheap- 50p- each i bought all he had.