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Title: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Dean Moss on March 17, 2009, 04:39:26 pm
Customer wants an aniline leather suite darkened from tan to a deeper brown, it can come off site for a week if neccesary.
I have quoted  around 700-800 . Any takers?
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: John Gregory on March 17, 2009, 04:49:41 pm
seen it done at Ltt last year but me bum wound be tweaking too much

john
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: markpowell on March 17, 2009, 07:38:34 pm
If no-one closer wants the job i will take it on, im about 25 miles from Bolton,
Feel free to give me a call 07723 756402.
I would prefer to take the suite off site if poss.
Cheers Mark
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Ricky M on March 17, 2009, 07:59:16 pm
Why not do it there and then ???
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: markpowell on March 17, 2009, 08:06:32 pm
id drather bring it back to my work shop and do it at my own pace, also the customer doesnt think you are over charging, when they dont know how long the job is taking you
Mark
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: LTT Leathercare on March 17, 2009, 08:07:38 pm
Dean Your dad phoned and was going to email me the details but nothing arrived.
Changing colour on an aniline is a different process to a simple restoration and would need taking off site as the dye needs spraying rather than dyeing by hand.

Send it through and we will happily deal with it.
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: derek west on March 17, 2009, 08:08:17 pm
plus if you balls it up you have time to rectify it with out the embarassment ;D
derek
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Dean Moss on March 17, 2009, 08:54:35 pm
Judy, Dad said you did not have time to talk today and last time he sent details to LTT for a customer  job, he did not get any feed back and had to go to a lot of trouble to find out if the customer was services correctly.
Thats why he asked me to post it on this forum to see if he can get a definitive answer.
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 17, 2009, 09:00:41 pm
Judy why are you spraying now? I thought you said that applying by hand was the only way? I thought it was very good and easy.

Shaun
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: LTT Leathercare on March 17, 2009, 09:07:02 pm
Dean
I was busy on the phone when your dad phoned today so could not take his call personally and Andy was in London all say but we would have dealt with it if he had emailed the details through.  
The last one he sent we asked immediatley for photos to be sent by the customer so that we could assess the job and she never sent them so I do not understand where the problem is.

We will be happy to deal with this as it sounds like a specialist job.

Shaun
When you are trying to change the colour on an aniline it is a completely different technique to the noraml restoration and one which requires spraying of the aniline dye rather than applying by hand.  Pure aniline dyes are used rather then ones in a carrying agent which makes it a much more difficult process.
Cheers
Judy
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 17, 2009, 09:17:02 pm
Is it the same colour that you apply when spraying on or a sub darker one first then a darker one after that?

Shaun
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Dean Moss on March 18, 2009, 08:32:18 am
Thanks all, Dad has now past the job onto a Furniture Clinic trained technition in the area that contacted him yesterday.
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: LTT Leathercare on March 18, 2009, 08:45:40 am
Do they have the correct products for doing this work?
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Dean Moss on March 18, 2009, 07:30:38 pm
Judy, if they didnt, then the job would not have been given.
Once again thanks all for your time.
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Ricky M on March 18, 2009, 08:08:05 pm
 Im sure a Furniture Clinic franchisee can accommodate this.

Ya Know it wont be long before Ben is running his own school with the ammount of FC frans poping up all over the country .
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Joe H on March 18, 2009, 08:26:57 pm
Ben has already run his own schools - I did a 2 day with Paul Moss and Andy Locke in 2007.
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Ricky M on March 18, 2009, 09:14:36 pm
Joe how did you find it ?

Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 18, 2009, 09:15:20 pm
Sat Nav

Shaun
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Ricky M on March 18, 2009, 09:27:43 pm
smart arse   ;D
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: Joe H on March 19, 2009, 06:26:17 am
It was a very practical hands on course.
Only 3 of us plus Ben.
If there had been 1 more there would have been another instructor (we were told) - so we got personal attention.

We each had a small cushion made of leather which we scratched, cut, cig burned, cut, biroed etc to simulate customers stuff.
Mended them all and then sprayed.
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: robert meldrum on March 19, 2009, 07:54:30 am
Did the FC course in 2007 which was fine, geezer from Sheffield turned up on the second day, maybe his sat nav got the wrong info!

Also did LTT course which was covered a bit more in terms of restoration work.

Also thought recolouring aniline was a no go area for the sprayer
Title: Re: Aniline job in Bolton
Post by: LTT Leathercare on March 19, 2009, 09:01:27 am
Changing colour of aniline leather is a very different process from the straightforward restoration work which is a very simple process using aniline dyes in a carrying agent (not pigments or balms as these change the leather from an aniline into a pigment) making them very easy to apply evenly. 

You cannot get enough depth of colour with the regular aniline dyes to actually change from one colour to another so you have to use pure aniline dyes.  These cannot be applied by hand as they are too aggressive and would create patches on the leather as they cannot be spread - hence the need for spraying the product.   
Anilijne restoration is covered on our course but we do not usually go into colour change of anilines as this is a specialist job and not one that most people would be prepared to tackle.  We do cover this sort of work in our masterclass workshops that we do from time to time. 

Our basic sourses are available every month and cover everything form cleaning to full restoration work, we are now taking bookings for May and June and beyond. Please contact us if you are interested.

Also our open workshop days are available free of charge on the first Tuesday of every month - come and see us to pick our brains, bring a problem or just find out what we do.  Next one 7th April