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UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: drive surgeon on March 14, 2009, 03:24:51 pm

Title: help needed guys.
Post by: drive surgeon on March 14, 2009, 03:24:51 pm
i use sodium chlorate weedkiller from time to time and i used it on a drive which had blocks with flags in the middle. the flags are those traditional grey flags. the woman phoned up after 5 months and said that the flags are all marked with yellowish stains on and she said it was only since the sodium chlorate was used.  What can i do to remove these stains as im not sure cold pressure will do it and im not sure if anything at all will get them out.  i use the weedkiller all the time on blocks but whay has this happened?  any help would be good guys  :-[ :'( :'(
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Post by: mark.laycock1@ntlw on March 14, 2009, 04:23:26 pm
ds. have you been to see the flags yourself? could you get a photo.
Title: Re: help needed guys.
Post by: drive surgeon on March 14, 2009, 05:06:22 pm
not been yet mark. will get a pic for you all.
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Post by: BDCS on March 14, 2009, 05:15:49 pm
It sounds like plant food to me
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Post by: mark.laycock1@ntlw on March 14, 2009, 07:28:12 pm
yes it does this happen to me last year. i clean block paving and there gardener treated there lawn and it went on the block paving. there gardener said that it was me.
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Post by: thewaterwizard on March 14, 2009, 07:49:46 pm
 A customer of mine put moss killer on his
driveway light colour block paving turned it brown
tried all sorts but hottest setting worked best
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Post by: drive surgeon on March 14, 2009, 10:08:50 pm
she has got no grass so it cant be the grass feeed. it was my sodium chlorate she said. what will shift it?
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Post by: hotsteam on March 15, 2009, 12:57:32 am
have you tried a JCB  ::)
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Post by: Griffus on March 15, 2009, 01:23:25 am
Never heard of this.

I think she's pulling a fast one, especially after so long. Looks like she's after a refund or a free clean.

In my experience the worst case is that Sodium Chlorate dries white around the edges of block-paving but rain will clear tis in no time at all.
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Post by: mark.laycock1@ntlw on March 15, 2009, 07:56:47 am
ds,
i would go round to see it. take photos of it. put them on here so we all can see. to me shes pulling a fast one.

or ask her what she whats you do about it and if she say well you could clean it again than you know what shes after. then its up to you i would then just clean the bad bits.
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Post by: thewaterwizard on March 15, 2009, 08:40:34 am
if you see any signs of algae or moss and if so i would ask her straight out wot she
has put on her driveway to kill it off that way you might get your answer
sounds like she is trying to blame you for something she has done
herself or maybe some helpful neighbor put the idea in her head !!!
  robin  
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Post by: thewaterwizard on March 15, 2009, 08:52:35 am
good post rob
probably not wot ds wants to hear but 100% true we only use chemicals
on oil Stans and graffiti and weed control is down to the client

  robin
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Post by: BDCS on March 15, 2009, 09:02:40 am
The thing here really is that I don't think that your weed killer has caused the problem - but if it gets nasty do you have a ticket to spray in the first place ? search the previous posts for fertiliser stains but I can't remember a clear remedy. I have tried rust remover from my carpet spot kit with limited results
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Post by: drive surgeon on March 15, 2009, 11:27:19 am
rob i dont use pre sprays mate. dont know what you are on about at all you must have the wrong post.  what i put down was a weedkiller after cleaning which is what i normally do. god knowa what your on about.  ::)
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Post by: BDCS on March 15, 2009, 11:52:10 am
If I use weedkiller its prior to cleaning ie prespray
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Post by: BDCS on March 15, 2009, 08:35:53 pm
I am no chemist but the original post is talking about an old fashioned weed killer that I think is going to be withdrawn, and Rob, that paving expert post is talking about a mixture based on bleach. I stand to be corrected but I think I'm right
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Post by: drivewasher on March 15, 2009, 10:51:47 pm
Come on chaps, this is getting silly!

Sodiuum hypochlorate is  BLEACH although bleach is only about 5% sodium hypochlorate

Sodium clorate is weed killer. Iv'e used it by a watering can (not sprayed) many tmes even after cleaning and never left any marks
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Post by: drive surgeon on March 16, 2009, 08:11:56 am
listen rob i know you like to sound technically brilliant and all that but i used the sodium weedkiller to kill the roots of weeds not clean the surface, i have used it many times and it has never stained the surface. i have used it after cleaning many times, some people use it before cleaning or after to kill any remaining roots.  i dont want bleach i want weedkiller!!!    i think bdcs and drivewasher understand me!!!!  ::)
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Post by: drive surgeon on March 16, 2009, 08:13:25 am
Come on chaps, this is getting silly!

Sodiuum hypochlorate is  BLEACH although bleach is only about 5% sodium hypochlorate

Sodium clorate is weed killer. Iv'e used it by a watering can (not sprayed) many tmes even after cleaning and never left any marks

well in steve i know we are on the same wavelength mate!!!  i do the same as you.  :)
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Post by: drivewasher on March 16, 2009, 09:05:24 am
where is the job? Can you post a picture. I like books with pictures lol...
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Post by: mark.laycock1@ntlw on March 16, 2009, 11:09:22 am
hi ds, what machine have you got?
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Post by: drive surgeon on March 16, 2009, 03:50:54 pm
tech clean powertech 250 13 hp. 250 bar, 15 litres a minute with a whirlaway and turbo nozzle.
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Post by: drive surgeon on March 16, 2009, 04:21:50 pm
thankyou  :D
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Post by: karygate on March 16, 2009, 04:38:30 pm
i do not use any weedkiller after the job because someone on here said you need a certificate to to it but i do suggest to customers it helps to preveny weeds in the future and those that do put it down their drives stay nice longer. the reason i suggest the sodium chloride is because it is cheap to buy and easy to put down .
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Post by: mark.laycock1@ntlw on March 16, 2009, 05:53:40 pm
anyone use the product.
pavewash or pave clear seen these knocking around with people.
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Post by: drive surgeon on March 16, 2009, 06:32:51 pm
i do not use any weedkiller after the job because someone on here said you need a certificate to to it but i do suggest to customers it helps to preveny weeds in the future and those that do put it down their drives stay nice longer. the reason i suggest the sodium chloride is because it is cheap to buy and easy to put down .


you mean "sodium Chlorate"  sodium chlorate is salt !!! ;)
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Post by: sherco on March 16, 2009, 07:36:27 pm
I have mentioned this i a previous post, if you haven't got a PA1 and a PA6A you are breaking the law by applying weed killers to customers drives, even if it is by watering can, if you have a problem your insurance wont be valid, plus you could get a big fine from the Environment Agency and Health & Safety...
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Post by: dandandan on March 16, 2009, 08:52:02 pm
Do you need these certificates for spraying the likes of pathclear etc,the weed killers bought over the counter at garden centres etc?Wouldn`t you need a certificate to buy it if it was so tightly controled like you do with the industrial strength stuff?Dan
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Post by: drive surgeon on March 16, 2009, 09:15:27 pm
good point dan, i bought mine from b and q.
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Post by: sherco on March 16, 2009, 10:30:20 pm
good point dan, i bought mine from b and q.
The law on Pesticides states you can use it on your on property, if you use it on somebody elses property that doesn't belong to you you need to be certificated to use it, even if its path clear.
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Post by: drivewasher on March 16, 2009, 11:57:56 pm
So, back to these stains. Is there any progress ds Pics or someones going to organise a tall stool and a short rope lol.....
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Post by: drive surgeon on March 17, 2009, 10:53:16 am
worry over boys, the stupid woman thought it was the weedkiller, the truth is its just algae cos her flags are always in the shade. i think what has made them so bad is having them jet washed twice a year, it seems to wear the surface off and makes them go green quicker.  i had a look today im doing it tomoro.  it should come off easy with the whirlaway and turbo.  crazy old waman!!! >:(
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Post by: hamish on March 17, 2009, 04:14:16 pm
Next time just ask the manufacturer  of the product in question , they would put you straight on things like this.

Doff make the weed killer you have used.