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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: m b shaw on March 13, 2009, 03:21:01 pm

Title: ionics brochure
Post by: m b shaw on March 13, 2009, 03:21:01 pm
just recieved one today and just flicking through it i,m amazed at some of their prices. this is from someone who runs a pro 5 ionic system and has sometimes defended them on this site.i have never had a system problem only areel break which they replaced without question.i,m starting to think they price according to what others charge i e glyder pole slx pole much the same.you would think they might want to be a bit more competitive,but no,just see how many we can sell at this price.at a time when a lot of w/c s are waiting to see what happens next it would be a good time to encourage firms to try their products. on the plus side for me,three or more firms selling poles,lets see who wants our cash.cheers mick
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: LWC on March 13, 2009, 04:13:58 pm
Very impressive catalogue i must say.

Window cleaning has come a long way.
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: tomy jackson on March 13, 2009, 04:33:43 pm
and a diy hot ??????????????
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: Captain Scarlet on March 13, 2009, 04:37:50 pm
Well, in some ways I can see why Ionic charge what they do, they are a premium window cleaning supplier, selling at premium prices!!

I run my own window cleaning firm in a similar way, attracting premium ( richer ) customers who are willing to pay that bit more, if theyre not, I simply dont clean there houses! Many of us do this, so I suppose we should simply expect it . Though I do believe a few of there items are over priced.
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: sparklebright on March 13, 2009, 05:15:53 pm
I got one today too...

In all things I think it's the case that if you supply something 10% better you can charge about 40% more.

I am a self confessed skinflint as far as work stuff goes, so I would probably never buy from them, but I can see it looks very good, and if people are willing to pay £1000s for something cos it looks better then that's up to them.

All my gear works very well, and it's as ugly as can be, and my profit margin is very healthy thank you.
Though probably nothing compared to Ionics.... ;D

Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: ftp on March 13, 2009, 05:22:35 pm
I thought their poles were reasonably priced but everything else was a joke - especially the swivel head they sell.  :o
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: sparklebright on March 13, 2009, 05:24:28 pm
I thought their poles were resonably priced but everything else was a joke - especially the swivel head they sell.  :o
I agree actually the poles were ok I will think about them, a mate of mine has bought a new pole, so I'll see what that's like first
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: Jason Atwell on March 13, 2009, 05:26:18 pm
You also need to add V A T  to those prices i think!
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: FRESHER on March 13, 2009, 05:51:55 pm
What about these guys Concept 2O? http://www.clearviewplus.com/products.html
Im looking to start window cleaning,, and its going to be basic, or 2nd hand kit to begin with,,, but other than poles being lighter, and aesthetics, what i sthe difference in the actual jquality of work done,, can all systems produce the same results?  Is it time taken?  what makes a good system and what makes a bad system?
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: gary999 on March 13, 2009, 06:04:38 pm
glyder poles looked impressive wished i made the effort to go
to cleaning show to have a closer look
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: Oakley Windows on March 13, 2009, 06:50:20 pm
I thought their poles were reasonably priced but everything else was a joke - especially the swivel head they sell.  :o

Yeah, I picked that up, did you see the price of a nut off one of their systems.......... 8 pence

8 PENCE!!!
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: leapstallbuildings on March 13, 2009, 07:05:32 pm
just recieved one today and just flicking through it i,m amazed at some of their prices. this is from someone who runs a pro 5 ionic system and has sometimes defended them on this site.i have never had a system problem only areel break which they replaced without question.i,m starting to think they price according to what others charge i e glyder pole slx pole much the same.you would think they might want to be a bit more competitive,but no,just see how many we can sell at this price.at a time when a lot of w/c s are waiting to see what happens next it would be a good time to encourage firms to try their products. on the plus side for me,three or more firms selling poles,lets see who wants our cash.cheers mick

I did better than you.  I got THREE of their brochures today.  It seems I am on their database under slightly different spellings.
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: ftp on March 13, 2009, 07:18:07 pm
Swivel - £132 upwards  ???
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: Neil Williams on March 13, 2009, 09:54:53 pm
I did better than you.  I got THREE of their brochures today.  It seems I am on their database under slightly different spellings.

Seems I'm on their database as blacklisted ;D
Like I give a %&£$ over rated, over hyped, over priced
And since when did 9 sections of 6 foot poles allow you to reach 65 foot (do the maths) ;D
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: rhys11 on March 13, 2009, 10:01:33 pm
im fedup with geting junk mail from ionics they suck
over priced monkeys

Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: P®oPole™ on March 13, 2009, 10:12:35 pm
 
Progression and innovation are vital elements that move business’s forward. To instantly dismiss new ground breaking products is immediately limiting some to a certain level or barrier.

73ft Pole, Upkeeper, ZERO R.O, Pro10! The investment Ionics put on R&D and safety is unmatchable. Who else has laid down £100,000.00 on a recognised test at the world renowned Tatcham centre. Not many could emulate that!

I will not comment further on this topic.

Pro


Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: Window Washers on March 13, 2009, 10:32:45 pm

Progression and innovation are vital elements that move business’s forward. To instantly dismiss new ground breaking products is immediately limiting some to a certain level or barrier.

73ft Pole, Upkeeper, ZERO R.O, Pro10! The investment Ionics put on R&D and safety is unmatchable. Who else has laid down £100,000.00 on a recognised test at the world renowned Tatcham centre. Not many could emulate that!

I will not comment further on this topic.

Pro



upkeeper I looked at in the us about a year maybe 2 could even be three years ago,  they import it aqnd over inflate the price, nothing more to say on that subject apart from uk gutters are not the same and seems to have been over looked by ionics ::)
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: [GQC] Tim on March 14, 2009, 12:26:38 am
A reliable setup, enough pure water and a light rigid pole does the job for me, and that can be done for a fraction of their price.
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: leapstallbuildings on March 14, 2009, 07:44:17 am
I did better than you.  I got THREE of their brochures today.  It seems I am on their database under slightly different spellings.

Seems I'm on their database as blacklisted ;D
Like I give a %&£$ over rated, over hyped, over priced
And since when did 9 sections of 6 foot poles allow you to reach 65 foot (do the maths) ;D

Must be one those those poles where they add a bit on for reach.  11 foot though  ?   :)
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: Alex Gardiner on March 14, 2009, 01:53:40 pm
Just had a chance to have a look over their new brochure and I have got to say that as a brochure it is a very smart piece of work. I like the black base, the matt/gloss contrast and the layout.

Top marks to Ionics for a fantastic representative brochure for the product range. If I were able to feel emotions like jealousy then maybe this might trigger it!
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: leapstallbuildings on March 14, 2009, 05:36:28 pm
Just had a chance to have a look over their new brochure and I have got to say that as a brochure it is a very smart piece of work. I like the black base, the matt/gloss contrast and the layout.

Top marks to Ionics for a fantastic representative brochure for the product range. If I were able to feel emotions like jealousy then maybe this might trigger it!

I prefer substance to spin any time and you've got substance Alex.
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: R W C on March 14, 2009, 07:45:52 pm
oh and ionics just though id say 6x5 doesnt = 35 and 6x6 doesnt = 30 check you pole guide before going to print  ;)

Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: stevekennedy on March 14, 2009, 08:57:41 pm
I understand that the 5ft or 6ft refers to the handle sections. The sections get longer as you move up the pole. Section 1 on the 5ft pole is 6.5ft long.

Their prices reflect research and development costs.
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: TDW on March 14, 2009, 09:03:03 pm
I wonder if the glyder will be at the roadshows. I'm going to take my slx to compare the two.
Title: Re: ionics brochure
Post by: stevekennedy on March 14, 2009, 09:21:17 pm
The intention is to bring the Glyder on the roadshows.