Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: R.V.A Window Cleaning Services on March 10, 2009, 04:30:51 pm
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Went up to the show today as it was a bit wet here in Worcester (only a bit), first time i've been to one of these shows and found it quite intresting, Ionics looked busy found a company called Bayersan who gave me a good price on some new poles and last but not least a big thankyou to the guys from X-line systems for there help and i will be going up there soon to see them.
P.s First time i've looked at the Brodex system, i've never used their system so i can't coment on the workings of it but as for looks, BAD and I think it's very bulky, but thats only my view.
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been the show today too.
really enjoyed it apart from the 7quid price tag on a very basic looking breakfast.
I didn't have one by the way.
Dean
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Pure H20
please explain your avatar photo mate.
Is it face paint or a mask?
Its superb.
You look like panthro from thundercats.
Dean
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Yep, good day, nipping back tomorrow for another gander...
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been the show today too.
really enjoyed it apart from the 7quid price tag on a very basic looking breakfast.
I didn't have one by the way.
Dean
I had Gammon ;D, I leant a few things there today so all good, was well impressed by window cleaning resources stall and unimpressed with a few of the big players there
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Did you get their free cd rom?
I havent installed it yet.
Dean
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Yes got that, I already have round software but I am nosey so wanted to see what else was on there
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Any reports on the latest poles?
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been the show today too.
really enjoyed it apart from the 7quid price tag on a very basic looking breakfast.
I didn't have one by the way.
Dean
probley dear because it werent traditional ;D ;D
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Any reports on the latest poles?
www.baudoin.nl now these are fantasic to hold
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Any reports on the latest poles?
www.baudoin.nl now these are fantasic to hold
so are these ;D ;D
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Did anyone look at the new Glyder pole from ionic.
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Did anyone look at the new Glyder pole from ionic.
yep, seemed ok
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OK is that it lol. ;D
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OK is that it lol. ;D
it is light enough, prefered the facelift clamps, prefered ionics colours, i did get hold of a pole today that from rigidity blows all of them out the water from looks. Ionics seem to have lowered there prices a little till you get to the new 60ft* maybe higher over £1500 who are they kidding in this day and age suppliers may want to listen to there customers a little more ::)
Have to say I was a little gutted that alex gardiner was not there at this show again ::), nor at windex. Alex if your reading this step up to the plate and book the next show so people can see your poles ;)
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Had a good day at the show, not as busy as i thought it would be but a few interesting bits all the suppliers were very helpful
met up with quite a few members from the forums im going back tomorrow for another look
Brett
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How long was that Glyder pole closed and was it as light as the SLX-25ft facelift.
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Did anyone look at the new Glyder pole from ionic.
yes had a look at not a bad pole :-\
nowhere near as good as the facelift pole 8)
Brett
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OK is that it lol. ;D
it is light enough, prefered the facelift clamps, prefered ionics colours, i did get hold of a pole today that from rigidity blows all of them out the water from looks. Ionics seem to have lowered there prices a little till you get to the new 60ft* maybe higher over £1500 who are they kidding in this day and age suppliers may want to listen to there customers a little more ::)
Have to say I was a little gutted that alex gardiner was not there at this show again ::), nor at windex. Alex if your reading this step up to the plate and book the next show so people can see your poles ;)
I read it!
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Did anyone look at the new Glyder pole from ionic.
yes had a look at not a bad pole :-\
nowhere near as good as the facelift pole 8)
Brett
That`s a shame knowhere near as good you reckon. :(
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OK is that it lol. ;D
it is light enough, prefered the facelift clamps, prefered ionics colours, i did get hold of a pole today that from rigidity blows all of them out the water from looks. Ionics seem to have lowered there prices a little till you get to the new 60ft* maybe higher over £1500 who are they kidding in this day and age suppliers may want to listen to there customers a little more ::)
Have to say I was a little gutted that alex gardiner was not there at this show again ::), nor at windex. Alex if your reading this step up to the plate and book the next show so people can see your poles ;)
I read it!
AND????????????????????????????????? :-\
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How long was that Glyder pole closed and was it as light as the SLX-25ft facelift.
Have not held an SLX, Alex your welcome to send me one to test I speak to more people at shows than you do :P
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OK is that it lol. ;D
it is light enough, prefered the facelift clamps, prefered ionics colours, i did get hold of a pole today that from rigidity blows all of them out the water from looks. Ionics seem to have lowered there prices a little till you get to the new 60ft* maybe higher over £1500 who are they kidding in this day and age suppliers may want to listen to there customers a little more ::)
Have to say I was a little gutted that alex gardiner was not there at this show again ::), nor at windex. Alex if your reading this step up to the plate and book the next show so people can see your poles ;)
I read it!
AND????????????????????????????????? :-\
We are so busy at the moment that we just couldn't have squeezed it in. If we did show and it increased demand it would only mean that the waiting lists got longer :(
Next year who knows? We might have a complete raft of new and innovative products that just have to be shown off :)
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How long was that Glyder pole closed and was it as light as the SLX-25ft facelift.
Have not held an SLX, Alex your welcome to send me one to test I speak to more people at shows than you do :P
:D :D
I may not have attended, but I have had people calling me from the show today - does that count?
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How long was that Glyder pole closed and was it as light as the SLX-25ft facelift.
Have not held an SLX, Alex your welcome to send me one to test I speak to more people at shows than you do :P
:D :D
I may not have attended, but I have had people calling me from the show today - does that count?
No >:(
I have been speaking about you all day, get your self registered for the next one and show people what you have, you would make a lot more sales you do not need me to tell you this, seeing is believing do you not think?
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How long was that Glyder pole closed and was it as light as the SLX-25ft facelift.
Have not held an SLX, Alex your welcome to send me one to test I speak to more people at shows than you do :P
:D :D
I may not have attended, but I have had people calling me from the show today - does that count?
No >:(
I have been speaking about you all day, get your self registered for the next one and show people what you have, you would make a lot more sales you do not need me to tell you this, seeing is believing do you not think?
I totally agree....just I would then have to cross the Tamar and venture into England which is quite a worrying thought ;D
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How long was that Glyder pole closed and was it as light as the SLX-25ft facelift.
Have not held an SLX, Alex your welcome to send me one to test I speak to more people at shows than you do :P
:D :D
I may not have attended, but I have had people calling me from the show today - does that count?
No >:(
I have been speaking about you all day, get your self registered for the next one and show people what you have, you would make a lot more sales you do not need me to tell you this, seeing is believing do you not think?
I totally agree....just I would then have to cross the Tamar and venture into England which is quite a worrying thought ;D
Seeing as you make money from the better land I would say it is a very good idea ;D
I will do a poll on it at the end of the week, you see the hits and the comments ;)
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bret you might want to have a think about how good a facelift pole is when the top clamp snaps
and your left using it two weeks get super glue and stiky tape handy
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bret you might want to have a think about how good a facelift pole is when the top clamp snaps
and your left using it two weeks get super glue and stiky tape handy
your the first person that ive heard that have had a complaint with a facelift pole have you contacted them and what did they say mate ive always found them very helpful
ive had my carbon fibre facelift pole for a year now and its still like brand new, hope you get it sorted
Brett
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Alex
Do you intend to go to the Fed show in October
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Terry Burrows asked me if tosh and the boys were coming down from wales :D
did anyone enter the comp, the same guy won it from unger he'll win it tomorrow as well and friday hes fast 8) :o
window cleaning show and theres no ladder in sight ;D
Brett
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Pure H20
please explain your avatar photo mate.
Is it face paint or a mask?
Its superb.
You look like panthro from thundercats.
Dean
It's a mask dean (an expensive one at that) my daughter put the picture up and i don't know how to change it :-[
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Terry Burrows asked me if tosh and the boys were coming down from wales :D
did anyone enter the comp, the same guy won it from unger he'll win it tomorrow as well and friday hes fast 8) :o
window cleaning show and theres no ladder in sight ;D
Brett
There might not have been any ladders there but why was a company selling self cleaning glass there ??? didn't get their name as i didn't bother looking at the product ;D
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Terry Burrows asked me if tosh and the boys were coming down from wales :D
did anyone enter the comp, the same guy won it from unger he'll win it tomorrow as well and friday hes fast 8) :o
window cleaning show and theres no ladder in sight ;D
Brett
There might not have been any ladders there but why was a company selling self cleaning glass there ??? didn't get their name as i didn't bother looking at the product ;D
yes i seen the self cleaning glass ::)
told him no thanks ;D
brett
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there did not seem to be anything new just stalls trying to get rid of their glass fibre poles. spoke to a few people though which was interesting .
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Any reports on the latest poles?
www.baudoin.nl now these are fantasic to hold
got to agree great pole to hold , i liked there trailer system and the bit of totty on the stall was well impressed . ;D
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Brett
There might not have been any ladders there but why was a company selling self cleaning glass there ??? didn't get their name as i didn't bother looking at the product ;D
yes i seen the self cleaning glass ::)
told him no thanks ;D
brett
the company was called tio2 it wasnt actually self cleaning glass but a application
that you put on any glass to make it self cleaning its supposed to last 3 years per application .
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Alex
Do you intend to go to the Fed show in October
No plans to.
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Can't see why Alex would need to attend any shows when his poles sell out within the first hour of stock arriving. ???
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Brett
There might not have been any ladders there but why was a company selling self cleaning glass there ??? didn't get their name as i didn't bother looking at the product ;D
yes i seen the self cleaning glass ::)
told him no thanks ;D
brett
the company was called tio2 it wasnt actually self cleaning glass but a application
that you put on any glass to make it self cleaning its supposed to last 3 years per application .
Blimey. They took a chance going there didn't they? :)
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Brett
There might not have been any ladders there but why was a company selling self cleaning glass there ??? didn't get their name as i didn't bother looking at the product ;D
yes i seen the self cleaning glass ::)
told him no thanks ;D
brett
the company was called tio2 it wasnt actually self cleaning glass but a application
that you put on any glass to make it self cleaning its supposed to last 3 years per application .
Blimey. They took a chance going there didn't they? :)
I listened to the guy, sounded interesting but asked questions that could not be answered, think they rushed into being in the show without the homework
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Can't see why Alex would need to attend any shows when his poles sell out within the first hour of stock arriving. ???
I just think its bad stock ordering!! which is his lost as he is losing business!!
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Can't see why Alex would need to attend any shows when his poles sell out within the first hour of stock arriving. ???
I just think its bad stock ordering!! which is his lost as he is losing business!!
That'll be it - why didn't we think of that? ;D
Mrs A
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Can't see why Alex would need to attend any shows when his poles sell out within the first hour of stock arriving. ???
I just think its bad stock ordering!! which is his lost as he is losing business!!
I personally think it was not Alex's fault more he relied on others and got let down making him look bad. I will do a show for you Alex ;)
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To be honest why should Alex go to the show,the real reason i would bet is that he dosen`t feel the need to get business.Why load all that kit in a van when it`s not needed,if your selling a product before it`s on show your doing something right.
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Can't see why Alex would need to attend any shows when his poles sell out within the first hour of stock arriving. ???
I just think its bad stock ordering!! which is his lost as he is losing business!!
I personally think it was not Alex's fault more he relied on others and got let down making him look bad. I will do a show for you Alex ;)
Thanks Ian ;). Part of the delay was being let down by others but also we're not made of money! We ordered a large first batch, it pre-sold and we had to wait for the next batch. We're nearly there though.
To be honest why should Alex go to the show,the real reason i would bet is that he dosen`t feel the need to get business.Why load all that kit in a van when it`s not needed,if your selling a product before it`s on show your doing something right.
Kind of sums up our philosophy :). We're not out to sell more stuff than anyone else just sell enough to keep the firm going.
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i dont blame alex for not going, a lot might disagree with me but i feel its better to grow a business slowly using your own capital and not borrowing to fund it also if you grow slowly you can make sure you have the right staff and good customer backup so avoiding getting a bad name.
i have seen lots of firms grow very fast and you wonder how they are doing it next thing you know they are bust, im sure alex has a good business plan by what he has achieved so far.
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Anyone is more than welcome to see our products first hand - it's a great excuse for a trip to sunny Cornwall 8)
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Would that be an all expenses paid trip Alex, ;D then count me in I love Devon & Cornwall
Decided to pop down to the show tomorrow just to have a look at the Gutter Vac and the Glider Pole
(Just in case I miss out on the next batch of SLX) Nah! dont worry Alex I think my next pole is in the bag.
Wayne
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Anyone is more than welcome to see our products first hand - it's a great excuse for a trip to sunny Cornwall 8)
forget your products can i order a few tubs of that sun for rainy lancashire ;D ;D
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Anyone is more than welcome to see our products first hand - it's a great excuse for a trip to sunny Cornwall 8)
forget your products can i order a few tubs of that sun for rainy lancashire ;D ;D
its not been too bad latly Trevor,im up to date now,have only been rained off 2 half days in last 4 weeks and sun was out again today ;D ;D
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Anyone is more than welcome to see our products first hand - it's a great excuse for a trip to sunny Cornwall 8)
forget your products can i order a few tubs of that sun for rainy lancashire ;D ;D
its not been too bad latly Trevor,im up to date now,have only been rained off 2 half days in last 4 weeks and sun was out again today ;D ;D
got to admit Stan we have had a good run my webbed feet are beginning to turn normal again ;D
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Anyone is more than welcome to see our products first hand - it's a great excuse for a trip to sunny Cornwall 8)
is free b &b thrown in ;D ;D ;D
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Anyone is more than welcome to see our products first hand - it's a great excuse for a trip to sunny Cornwall 8)
why didn't I think of that ?? !!!!!! Aaarrggh !!
I wanted to go to the show to try out the SL2. Glad I didn't go now because I wouldn't have seen one !! . . But I still bought one yesterday. Reason . . 1stly, I've heard a lot of good things about gardiners poles. 2nd, Alex is always ready to help with replies and 3rd, one of my friends has one and he loves it.
It's ok to go to shows and try everything out, but sometimes it's nice when someone has used it in the real world.
I wish all the best for Alex and his business.
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Anyone is more than welcome to see our products first hand - it's a great excuse for a trip to sunny Cornwall 8)
forget your products can i order a few tubs of that sun for rainy lancashire ;D ;D
its not been too bad latly Trevor,im up to date now,have only been rained off 2 half days in last 4 weeks and sun was out again today ;D ;D
15 degrees in manchester today,first time in broke into a sweat for ages :)
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I wish all the best for Alex and his business.
Thank you. Kirsty, my little sister is Managing Director - I'm just product designer and general dogsbody ;D
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;D
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;D ;D from NEC
Vadim
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I think, it should be right to set up The Cleaning Show at sunny Cornwall then.
Vadim
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by keeping costs low, and an almost non existent marketing budget, well i suppose time spent on here is expensive really, it gives an unbeatable cost operating base.
At the mo he has a two year technology lead over the other guy's although they are starting to catch up and catch on (glider pole etc). but should it ever come to a price war he can chop it by half and still have a smile on his face.
In fairness though setting a price must be hard- the stuff on web is probably double up, so self procured might be three times and this sounds like money for old rope, but a lot can go wrong or need reengineering and i suppose that some customers just like us actually cost money.
All the same, as we are all mates, and don't want to pay over the odds at some show you'd think he would do them a bit cheaper.
;D ;D
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i liked the blonde with short skirt :P
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i liked the blonde with short skirt :P
me2... better than glyder, indeed.
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did anyone see the new poles by exel,i think they were called n-tec
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did anyone see the new poles by exel,i think they were called n-tec
.. even Riina from Exel have not mentioned me. Will ask her tomorrow and inform you then.
Vadim
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Anyone is more than welcome to see our products first hand - it's a great excuse for a trip to sunny Cornwall 8)
can we stop at your digs a few days ;D
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So whos there tomorrow? Ill be there
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Anyone is more than welcome to see our products first hand - it's a great excuse for a trip to sunny Cornwall 8)
why didn't I think of that ?? !!!!!! Aaarrggh !!
I wanted to go to the show to try out the SL2. Glad I didn't go now because I wouldn't have seen one !! . . But I still bought one yesterday. Reason . . 1stly, I've heard a lot of good things about gardiners poles. 2nd, Alex is always ready to help with replies and 3rd, one of my friends has one and he loves it.
It's ok to go to shows and try everything out, but sometimes it's nice when someone has used it in the real world.
I wish all the best for Alex and his business.
I bought one yesterday too, business is booming, no need to attend the show. I didn't even bother looking at another pole, Alex's response to questions, and any issues raised on this forum was good enough for me, 60ft here I come.
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So whos there tomorrow? Ill be there
Ill be there 2.
Vadim
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Really? cool. Im in a suit, 6ft 3, black hair
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Really? cool. Im in a suit
Cool. Im in Marlboro Classics + shoes, pair of course.
Vadim
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marlboro classics? perhaps im too young???
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like a cowboy jacket?
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like a cowboy jacket?
smth like this, but not absolutly. MCs business line range is interested me more... but less than WFP technology.
Vadim
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see you tomorrow then!!!
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Ionics 65ft pole is quite nice and lighter than the Ergolites but still a bit whippy....... Section lengths are more manageable though.
The 75ft is total naff in my view..... The sections are still 8ft long so you have to walk it up a building or use a step ladder which to me defeats the idea.
The fancy paint job on their new poles reminded me of a bad custom car spray job from the 70's....... (Flames over the wheel arches)
Interesting how Ionics claim to have no business connection with the Acadamy but they were next door to each other and actually shared some space...... Hmm..
The crash testing video they showed was intersting but in my view it looked misleading when showing crash tests of "competitors" systems.
Nice to meet the guys from Cleanitup even though it seamed all of them had strong foreign accents I will not hold that against them.....lol
Very good price at their stand for a trolley system......
The Baudin inside window cleaning system was very good until they told you the price..... £950+ vat......... Its not worth even half that price in my view...... PLUS parts were starting to fall off it which does make you think about how reliable the thing is. I did like their modular pole as it was teardrop shaped rather than just round which made it more ergonomic in your hand. It also has a connector to hold the modular sections together which would prevent the sections from rotating when in use.
Not impressed with the new Brodex gutter cleaning system but I will say that it was there as more of a showcase to show what they were developing next. Shame they didn't have their hot water system there. The new Hydra poles are pretty good and I got confirmation that they are stopping production of the Prolong but they will still be makeing aluminium poles but in the new Hydra range. Brodex have also reduced many of the collapsed lengths to enable them to fit inside more vans.
Went over to say "Hi" to the guys at Xline and WCR but they were always really busy. Xline had some good deals on for the show (100m microbore for £50) and were also 1 of the few stands that had guys in company uniform which did make them look professional and friendly rather than pushy salesmen.
Regards
Mr H
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I've just got back from show. Had a beer with Jeff Brimble and his wife and also a lad from Peters Forum. Was good to see all different variations of trollys etc though most can be made a lot cheaper if you go down the diy road. Was very impressed with the Baudin site promoting carbon fibre poles that clean inside windows. Though the price was a bit of a choker. Had some free sandwiches and cake on the Kaucher stand. Saved wasting silly money on NEC prices etc.
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I've just got back from show. Had a beer with Jeff Brimble and his wife and also a lad from Peters Forum. Was good to see all different variations of trollys etc though most can be made a lot cheaper if you go down the diy road. Was very impressed with the Baudin site promoting carbon fibre poles that clean inside windows. Though the price was a bit of a choker. Had some free sandwiches and cake on the Kaucher stand. Saved wasting silly money on NEC prices etc.
i have just got back too was going to hang around for window clean competition but was bored by 12 o clock so came home, the baudin poles where very good but a 14m one was about £2000 there brush that did sills at same time looked great too but as said too expensive.
in all i think the show this year was a bit disapointing, i was looking to see if any where showing any hot water add ons but only brodex was advertising theres and didnt have one at show to look at but at £3800 i dont think i would be buying one anyway.
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Really? cool. Im in a suit
Cool. Im in Marlboro Classics + shoes, pair of course.
Vadim
like a cowboy jacket?
like a cowboy jacket?
smth like this, but not absolutly. MCs business line range is interested me more... but less than WFP technology.
Vadim
And there was me thinking you were wearing a fAg packet ;D ;D ;D
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Oh yeah I forgot you cant say f.a.g I meant cigerette ::)
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Baudin fibre poles that clean inside windows looked great but seem a bit expensive at 800 euros. Hopefully someone will come up with a DIY version as the pads them selves are only £3.50.
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Central
I saw your name across the back of your shirt, as I sat in a meeting, in the cafe with another forum member.
I took their leaflet/brochure so I could replicate what they have done!!. Watch this space!!
Rob ;D
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had a look at ionics new 25 ft pole the clamps where awfull, it was new and the pole was slipping i looked at the clamp and there was no adjustment left to make, the salesman said it was one of the first batch and the issue was being dealt with, has anyone bought one of these poles and if so have they had the clamp issue fixed by ionics.
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Trevor!
Heard Terry calling your name on the Window Cleaner Comp, stood around waiting so I could say Hi., but you were probably just passing Manchester by then and couldn't hear him;D
Went to look at the Gutter Vac systems and was very impressed with Omni-Vac and had a nice chat with Glyn. Some serious thinking to do now if I'm gonna go down that route.
Overall didn't seem to be as busy as last time and didn't come away with anything to get excited about window cleaning wise, but the Baudin poles were pretty good if you like Modular Poles and have plenty of dosh!!
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How many of you managed to get a free brush from Brodex? Everyone that I spoke to had one though don't know about the Window cleaning Wizard. Spoke to him at Omnipole stand then he disappeared. ;D
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its the waterwizard and no i did not get a free brush
good to meet you though met jeff and his wife as well and left
about 1ish
robin
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I went today to look at the Omnipole gutter vac system - still think it is a bit expensive and was not impressed that the bloke I spoke to smelt like he hadn't cleaned his teeth for a week.
Liked that indoor pole thing, though again a bit pricey, but could see alot of mileage from it.
Surprised there were no low waste RO systems to be seen as that is another thing we were interested in looking at.
On a brighter note, bought a new squeegy for £3 -bargain!
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Trevor!
Heard Terry calling your name on the Window Cleaner Comp, stood around waiting so I could say Hi., but you were probably just passing Manchester by then and couldn't hear him;D
Went to look at the Gutter Vac systems and was very impressed with Omni-Vac and had a nice chat with Glyn. Some serious thinking to do now if I'm gonna go down that route.
Overall didn't seem to be as busy as last time and didn't come away with anything to get excited about window cleaning wise, but the Baudin poles were pretty good if you like Modular Poles and have plenty of dosh!!
if you decide to get a gutter vac let us know how you get on with it, i know a lot are extremely happy with them but i am still skeptical on whether they are practical for all the different types of guttering you come accross, mind you i was skeptical about wfp and didnt commit to it as soon as i should have.
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its the waterwizard and no i did not get a free brush
good to meet you though met jeff and his wife as well and left
about 1ish
robin
Hiya Robin it was a shame you left an hour before us because your van was a landmark to where my car was parked. Took us 20 mins to eventually find it. >:(
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Ionics 65ft pole is quite nice and lighter than the Ergolites but still a bit whippy....... Section lengths are more manageable though.
The 75ft is total naff in my view..... The sections are still 8ft long so you have to walk it up a building or use a step ladder which to me defeats the idea.
The fancy paint job on their new poles reminded me of a bad custom car spray job from the 70's....... (Flames over the wheel arches)
Interesting how Ionics claim to have no business connection with the Acadamy but they were next door to each other and actually shared some space...... Hmm..
The crash testing video they showed was intersting but in my view it looked misleading when showing crash tests of "competitors" systems.
Nice to meet the guys from Cleanitup even though it seamed all of them had strong foreign accents I will not hold that against them.....lol
Very good price at their stand for a trolley system......
The Baudin inside window cleaning system was very good until they told you the price..... £950+ vat......... Its not worth even half that price in my view...... PLUS parts were starting to fall off it which does make you think about how reliable the thing is. I did like their modular pole as it was teardrop shaped rather than just round which made it more ergonomic in your hand. It also has a connector to hold the modular sections together which would prevent the sections from rotating when in use.
Not impressed with the new Brodex gutter cleaning system but I will say that it was there as more of a showcase to show what they were developing next. Shame they didn't have their hot water system there. The new Hydra poles are pretty good and I got confirmation that they are stopping production of the Prolong but they will still be makeing aluminium poles but in the new Hydra range. Brodex have also reduced many of the collapsed lengths to enable them to fit inside more vans.
Went over to say "Hi" to the guys at Xline and WCR but they were always really busy. Xline had some good deals on for the show (100m microbore for £50) and were also 1 of the few stands that had guys in company uniform which did make them look professional and friendly rather than pushy salesmen.
Regards
Mr H
how come they're showing videos of their competitors when they got the info of their poles taken off another competitors site when they compared different poles ??
Doesn't matter to me, I've learnt from others not to go down the ionic route but I don't see why it's ok for one company to compare others but not let others compare them !! . . anyway, I've probably opened up a can of worms so I'm off to work now !! lol
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glad you found your car lol !!
robin