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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: darrenlee on April 03, 2005, 11:34:26 pm

Title: building a machine
Post by: darrenlee on April 03, 2005, 11:34:26 pm

just purchased a  second hand machine.
old fibreglass shell, aluminium base. 
about 40 litres waste & clean tank.
got 2 1000 watt motors in & 2 gotec pumps very small 
not seen before. all elictrics seem okay also heater elment in clean tank. paid £50 for it.
now the big question, boys and there toys thought i would have ago at re building it.
what motors & pump could i get away with putting in.
would two 3 stage vacs be two strong for casing ect.
any help or advisevwould be much apprietiated.
thanks darren

Title: Re: building a machine
Post by: Dynafoam on April 03, 2005, 11:49:40 pm

Hi Darren,

What you propose is feasible.

The problem that often occurs with GRP vacuum tanks is that the resin coat embrittles and cracks with age, leading to splitting.

If the vac tank is sound, however, it should be OK to fit a pair of three-stage vacs.

The Gotec pumps (oscillating piston type) have low flow-rates and pressure, so the addition of a 135psi Surflow pump and replacement of the internal plumbing would convert it to a usable machine.

Title: Re: building a machine
Post by: darrenlee on April 03, 2005, 11:57:23 pm

thanks for your quick response.
forgot to mention no lid on waste tank.
about 8 inch x 12 inch
anyone know where could get one
what sort of water lift could i expect if fitted 2 / 3 stage vacs.
close to my prochem powermax ?

Title: Re: building a machine
Post by: Dynafoam on April 04, 2005, 12:05:27 am

Darren,

The lid should be very easy to fabricate - I'd go for stainless steel plate, probably with longitudinal reinforcement to combat stress-flexing. The rubber seal could be cut from an old inner-tube.

Title: Re: building a machine
Post by: Ian Rochester on April 04, 2005, 06:20:32 am

Why not stick a photo of it on the site, someone will surely recognise it and be able to offer more advise

Title: Re: building a machine
Post by: Mike Halliday on April 04, 2005, 07:07:02 am

you're only limited by 3 things really,  the amount of space ( a big pump 300psi+ needs lots room for the motor and vac motors also need room to be plumbed in.

the amount of switches on the machine, when I 've built machines the hardest thing was wiring in new switches for the extra electrics.

and lastly how many suction tubes run into the waste tank, if you have only you will be limited to using 2x3 van motors in series. If you have 2 the you could fit  2x3 in series and a single 3 stage

Mike

Title: Re: building a machine
Post by: darrenlee on April 04, 2005, 08:24:14 pm

theres two vacun inlets on machine
will post picture tomorrow
thanks for all your replys

Title: Re: building a machine
Post by: darrenlee on April 05, 2005, 09:07:19 pm

heres the pictures
thanks

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Title: Re: building a machine
Post by: brucie on April 05, 2005, 10:19:28 pm

Not much help,but for information,Mr Misty's were I believe made by a firm called Janotex based in Sheffield. stopped trading about 5 years ago.

Title: Re: building a machine
Post by: darrenlee on April 13, 2005, 06:11:35 pm

hi ordered 2 x 3 stage vacs
anyone know what sort of water lift i could expect
the vacs are not in series

Title: Re: building a machine
Post by: paul@ctcs on April 13, 2005, 06:19:56 pm

I would think between 100 to 130" of lift running them in parrallel, I bet JB can give a more exact figure :)

Paul

Title: Re: building a machine
Post by: Ken Wainwright on April 13, 2005, 07:59:59 pm

Darren

I can't remember the specs for 2x3 stage in parrallel, but i would imagine they would be quite close to the Alltec machines.  www.alltec.co.uk (http://www.alltec.co.uk)  The manufacturers usually quote the figures for the components rather than their machine (looks better on paper).

Looking at your pictures, you appear to have only one power cable. If you want to use your heater as well, this MUST be run off a seperate cable/circuit as 2x3stage vacs and a pump are teetering on your 13 amp plug limit.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken