Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jacko on March 05, 2009, 10:01:49 pm
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I have never used them. What are your current views on them??
Make the job easier?
Improved drying times.......or not.....
Best supplier.....
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glides are for girls, ;D
derek
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Improved drying times mmmm not sure but ease YES I used to get back ache after pushing the wand for 15 years or so but I've been using a glide for 5-6 years and it's too easy I won't go back to hard work!
Did I ever mention I was the first person in the UK to get a glide?
Shaun
PS Pick them up from US even with a dodgy £ still cheaper.
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Where is the best place to pick em up from Shaun?
Mark
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ebay.com US, the white teflon ones are best I believe but you can get the banana glides (believe it or not they are yellow!) not tried them though.
HM sell them £100 plus vat, I think Solutions and I think Woodbridge but not too sure on the last one.
Shaun
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Woodbridge sell "lips", Solutions sell a glide but it's nothing like the greenglides type.
I'm of exactly the same opinion as Shaun, not convinced on the drying times but I use a slotted version and the holed ones are supposed to be best for drying. I'm sure there's a trade-off there so I'll stick to slots until I witness otherwise!
first thing to do is identify the type of wand you have. If you know the manufacturer and model it's simple. If not, it's likely to be a generic PMF-manufactured wand and you can identify it on their website: http://www.pmftools.com/products.html
Once you know your wand model, you can pick the glide to match on the greenglides website http://greenglides.com/index.php?cPath=1&osCsid=cbfd0cc2478c1515c99b954e495bb9aa
If in doubt just email, you should get a pretty prompt reply from Jeff, he's really helpful :)
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ive got one still in its wrapper,
start me off now at £30, do i hear £30 pounds any takers, come on its brand new in the wrapper never been used, come on ladies, its a bargain and remember no more back ache and you don't have to push the wand as hard so you won't break any nails, or work up a sweat that will make your make-up run. come on, who's gonna start the bidding at £30 pounds. ;D
derek
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Derek
Come on where men on here ;D
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They just fit on end of wand, never seen one before but look expensive for what they are, a bit of moulded plastic.
John
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Derek & John...
I guarantee if you use a glide for a few days you'll never want to work without one again. Worth every penny, and then some. Trust me :)
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I use one on the TM and wouldnt be without it as it makes life easier. Not sure about drying as never tested side by side.
When Im using the Portable (ninja) I used a normal glideless wand as I think it cleans and recovers better and is no less difficult. The portable dosent have the power for the glide to be effective IMO.
Over priced for what it is yes but saves your back which is priceless in this game.
Mark
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Where exactly do you fit them and how do they work??
John
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Woodbridge sell "lips", Solutions sell a glide but it's nothing like the greenglides type.
Jim, the glide I got from Solution 10 months ago was a Greenglide.
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Derek £35 if its a Greeny slot glide for 12" twin jet TM wand.
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any advances on £35 do i hear £40 and yes its a genuine greenglide or as i call it, girl guide. think its a hybrid all though i'm not certain. come on girls do i hear £40.
derek
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derek, i know you run a truck mount and with the power that you have there i think that the 'airflow' of a glide suits it better. without a glide your really 'sucking' at the carpet fibres, you will get lock-down which seems great but it doesn't actually lift the moisture out of the carpet as much as having a glide, if you have an inline filter try putting your hand over the vac tube and see the waste water going through it virtually stop, take your hand off and the water in the vac tube moves through the filter, that is what a glide does, it 'lifts' the water out of the carpet easier and is better for your back, it's the airflow, (not so good for your waist though),
colin
ps if the glide is for a hm 2-jet i will buy it off you if your determined not like it!!!
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colin
so are you saying they get carpets dryer or certain carpet types dryer. my drying times are really good but theres always room for improvement.
derek
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in my opinion there is not much between drying times, greenie will fire all sorts of figures at you saying that they dry quicker but for me the point is that it is a LOT easier on your back and the drying times are comparable. but if i clean a carpet without a glide i do notice the stress that it seems to put on the carpet , ie the stretching and pulling on the fibres,
colin
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Derek Colins right, give it a try, also because its so easy I tend to do more dry passes.
I'm out if its a Hybrid (slots and holes)
Mark
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tbh colin, thats why i don't use the glide, i'm guessing the way it goes over the carpet there is ltd agitation and for me, i wouldn't feel like i was cleaning it, when i get a stubborn stain i just give it a scrub and it usually goes.
but i'm new ish so convince me otherwise and i may give it ago. i'm really not bothered about making the job easier so if thats the only reason then i won't use one. for me its about using the best kit to get the best results, if it makes an improvement on cleaning or drying then count me in.
so be honest, will it give me an advantage or is it just to make life easier?
derek
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derek, if it's agitation you want then use a slotted glide, still easier to use than without a glide but 'pulls up' the pile of the carpet more,
colin
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Derek
I don't think a glide gives an improvement in cleaning and as to whether it gives better drying times, the jury is still out.
What's relevant in your post is: "I'm new ish!". You drag a t/m wand across your carpets day in day out for a few more years and your back will no longer be so 'newish'. Trouble with that is that you often can't turn the clock back once the old spine starts to play up
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I've actually built my back strength up again since not having anymore pull push on it I'm like a new man again!
Penny for an ex lepper?
Shaun
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And he knows :) No one in this country has used a glide longer than him (as far as someone keeps telling us) ;)
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Derek if you are going on the CCDO then you could have the oppurtunity to try a glided wand then you would be in a better positon to say which if best for you. My oppinion is a holed glide all the time. I would love to see your views in 3 years time.
David Ware
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::)
Shaun
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Did anyone know that Shaun had the first teflon glide in the UK?
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Didnt know that Jim. ;)
Pretty boring news though. ;D
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Facts are boring, did I ever tell you that I was the first to get the Rotary Dry Master from Hydramaster in the UK?
Shaun
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Noe I didnt know that Shaun. That was interesting, ::) ;D
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Did you also know that the 'ooahh bird' is so called because it lays square eggs?
Shaun ;D
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bet there a perfect fit for fried egg on toast. ;D
unless you have that circle bread they did in the 80's ;D
what was it called?
derek
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Milk roll ???
Or nimble ??? ;D
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Derek
Bet you had one of them manly butties with a full fry up on it ;D
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Was it slimcea?
Shaun
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Milk roll ???
Or nimble ??? ;D
there them, wasn't there a manly one advertised as a western movie? or was that milk roll?
wasn't it T roll or something wagonny?
derek
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BIG T ROLL.
that was it.
proper manly bread, fit a whole fried egg and sliced luncheon meat on it. ;D
derek
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Derek
Think it was big t roll :)
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shaun "slimcea" ashmore and clinton"nimble" neylan
bet you guys have special K for breakfast and ryvita and cottage cheese for dinner.
derek "big t roll" west
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Grape fruit with a cherry in the middle, have to watch my figure now I'm nearly 40!
Shaun
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;D
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Shaun
Your only slim arnt you ??? ;D
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What do you mean only slim? I could take offence at that!
I like to call it trim!
Shaun
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Shaun
Tonned ;D
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My wallet is well toned from the exercise the Missus gives it!
Shaun
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I bought a Green slotted Glide just after Christmas.
Exactly this time last year I had a back operation and was out for a month or so. I thought about a Glide but didnt get around to it. Wow, I wish I had bought it earlier than last Christmas. It takes 98% of all the pulling away from the bottom of my back. I was in agony most nights and almost dreaded having big jobs to do, as I knew I would be in even more pain.
The TM are too strong when it comes to the suction, so with th Glide, it does just that...Glides. Almost effortlessly.
The truth is that the Glides DO leave the carpets a bit damper than without it on, but it's either that or I would have permenantly disabled myself without it, and probably couldnt do this type of work again. :(
I *think* I got mine from Hydramaster, or whoever sells the Green Glides over here. It was £ 126.-- inc postage for the slotted version. It's the best £126-00 I have spent on an assessory for cleaning. I dont care if anyone says you can get it for less here, or there. If something happens to it, I will buy the same one again!
If you have a TM, and it hurts your back, it's worth it weight in Platinum ;)
Ben
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A believer!
Good job I brought the 1st one over then, did I mention I was the first?
Shaun the first Glided wand user in the UK.
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Hi Guys
I'm of the Glides are for cissies scholl but have had a stiff neck for a few months so might try them .
Shaun, were you the first cissie in the U.K
Cheers
Doug
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Cissie nobackache - get it? Sissy Spacek
I bet you've missed me!
Shaun
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glides are for wips i dont like them ive found the to leave carpets wetter and dirtyer ive bin mine and would never go back
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i rest my case ;D
derek
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Wand glides do suppress the vacuum, however on the right wand with the right TM theres no problem of leaving the carpet wetter.
It is absolutely essential to have a glide on the Ti wand, with a 5 series blower even set to lowest vacuum power, the wand is unmovable without one. The Ti wands manifold is so efficient there is no flow back or airflow turbulance, the extracted water shoots straight up through the wand and hoses to the waste tank.
Dave.
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I got a single jet wand from Restormate and it cleans superbly but my Ti wand gets carpets dry in no time at all but like Dave Lee says you need a glide or it locks down onto the carpet.
Derek which wand have you got? I'm guessing it's the 2 jet 1.5" tube, wait till you get a 2" as the air flow is enormous.
Shaun
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If your experiences of using a glide leaves a carpet wetter and dirtier, it isn't the glide's fault, it's the operator not using it properly.
It's either the wrong glide for the wand or it hasn't been fitted correctly. There's absolutely no way on earth that a wand can perform worse with a properly fitted glide than without.
That's like someone saying Ford Escorts are rubbish because they crash into walls.
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no idea what wand ive got, okay, i have got an idea, its got 2 jets and its from hydramaster and it does the job. 1 an alf inch, 2 inch, what does it matter, they all suck the water up.
we are talking carpet cleaning wands aren't we?
cos if we're not it must be bloody cold where you guys are ;D
derek
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Derek,
It doesn't sound a lot, the difference between 1.5" and 2".... until you do a little bit of maths ;)
Imagine you chopped a slice out of each size of wand, to look at the cross-section:
The area of a 1.5" diameter circle is 56% of the area of a 2" diameter circle.
However, the circumference of the smaller circle is 75% of the circumference of the bigger one.
In plain English, what this means is that bigger you go, the lower the ratio of tube wall to air. This causes less drag on the air moving through the bigger tube, thus making it perform more efficiently in the airflow department.
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OK lets look at another plain English example.
Imagine you buy a car and drive it for the first 100 miles with the handbrake slightly on. As soon as you realise and take the handbrake off, what's going to happen? "Wow it goes so much quicker".
When used with a high performance machine (i.e. not most portables), increasing your wand bore size does exactly the same as taking the handbrake off, it reduces a restriction in performance.
Once you get your head out from up your bum and fit that glide to your wand ( :) ), you'll also realise that before the glide, 50% of the time you weren't recovering much up the wand and back to the truck ;)
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jim
you lost me at derek ;D
derek ???
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2 things you must have when wanding
1) a green glide( i have the hybrid and it works perfectly)
2) a 2" wand, connected directly to 2" vac hose.
nuff said.
Martin.
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Derek,
I'll explain in words of one syllable ....
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well why didn't ya say that the first time instead of all that hand brake bo11ocks.
count me in for a girl guide (green glide) and a tai bride, (ti wand) with a 2 inch girth ;D
sod it i'll have 2.
wild man.
derek
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Glad we got that sorted at last!
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The truth is that the Glides DO leave the carpets a bit damper than without it on,
Forgot to comment on this. Someone made an interesting post a while ago about how they cleaned one half of a carpet with a wand and the other with a rotary extractor (rx-20 i think)
What they said was that the carpet felt wetter on the rotary extracted part immediately after cleaning... BUT it dried quicker. The reasoning was that more water was being pulled to the top of the carpet, away from the base, which meant it actually left less water in there and what was left evaporated quicker.
Might be the same thing.
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Jim
I failed miserably at O level physics, so please bare with me.
My experiences are that 2 " hose and my 1.75" tubed wand outperforms a 1.5" tubed wand and ditto hose by miles, so the theory and figures you've outlined above works in practice. A 2" wand would therefore be even better.
But, on the theory side, surely the air velocity through the smaller bore wand is, or has the potential to be, greater than in a 2" set up. So, would this contribute towards a more positive benefit for the 1.5" wand?
Derek
You can go back to sleep now, if your little one will allow it :'(
Safe and happy wanding :)
Ken
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If your experiences of using a glide leaves a carpet wetter and dirtier, it isn't the glide's fault, it's the operator not using it properly.
It's either the wrong glide for the wand or it hasn't been fitted correctly. There's absolutely no way on earth that a wand can perform worse with a properly fitted glide than without.
That's like someone saying Ford Escorts are rubbish because they crash into walls.
sorry to say i think your wrong im not the only one to move away from glides i can name at least four others that have also done the same so over 100 years of cleaning between us cant be so wrong can we ?
as for poor fitting and wrong glide that just not so going to be moveing back to single jet wands next mounth as i think there better !
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I can't move my Ti wand back and forth all day without a wand, I have recently purchased a 1.5" wand from Restormate and it leaves the carpet wetter and doesn't grab so much, it's brilliant for rugs and runners as I don't need anyone to stand at the other side anymore.
Shaun
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Is that your single jet wand Shaun?
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Yes Joe, with an 06 jet, clean fast and very well as the force of the water knocks out stains but the drying is far less than a 2", ideally a 2" single jet would be perfect.
Shaun
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There is more to glides than sticking the right one on the end of your wand.
A couple of years ago, a local competitor was intrigued by the glide I was using. A couple of months ago I came across him again & he was keen to show me that he had now acquired a glide.
When I asked him to him to hook it up, turn it upside down & spray, I could see that he hadn't adjusted the angle of his jets. So instead of injecting hot water into the carpet under pressure, he was hitting the back of the glide & just misting the carpet.
Not only that but he hadn't bothered to add extenders to his jets. Due to the increased height of the jets off the carpet, he was overspraying at both edges by a quarter of an inch.
Neither of these things were enhancing his cleaning ability one bit
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Informative post Paul.
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paul
you don't actually say whether you pointed these things out to him ;)
derek