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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Captain Scarlet on March 05, 2009, 05:23:23 pm

Title: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on March 05, 2009, 05:23:23 pm
Quote from Ionic, see highlighted text:

Quote
"We're Launching New Products!
Here at Ionic Systems, we're all about innovation.

We've developed a host of new products that we'll be launching at
The Cleaning Show this year, including 3 new poles and a very special
add-on to water-fed machines that we're expecting to be extremely
popular.


We'll also be ebarking on another round of Reach
& Wash Roadshows, so you can see our new
products at a venue near you"

any ideas?
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on March 05, 2009, 05:26:17 pm
well most likely, but it will probably be able to be diy-ed
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Post by: Window Washers on March 05, 2009, 05:35:58 pm
inside reach and wash but better than before maybe, will be interesting to find out
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Post by: Oakley Windows on March 05, 2009, 05:42:57 pm
A bucket ?



 ;D
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Post by: Jeff Brimble on March 05, 2009, 05:59:06 pm
Is that from their website Luke ?
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Post by: matt on March 05, 2009, 06:06:51 pm
its a different colour change resin container

now it changes to YELLOW when depleted, easier for the users to spot when its time to change it

Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: newpy on March 05, 2009, 07:00:06 pm
i believe one product is a brush that fits between railings - i'm saying no more though it's probably top secret till the big reveal :-X
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on March 05, 2009, 07:04:43 pm
Quote
Is that from their website Luke ?

yes
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: alanwilson on March 05, 2009, 07:09:29 pm
this is sooooo exciting!!

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Post by: tomy jackson on March 05, 2009, 07:10:43 pm
so the resin is to look like yelow snow
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Post by: poleman on March 05, 2009, 08:21:15 pm
SLX move over..........http://www.ionicsystems.com/english/news.html
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: poleman on March 05, 2009, 08:26:09 pm
New Poles!
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Post by: Jeff Brimble on March 05, 2009, 08:43:06 pm
Its one reason why I am off to the show, sadly you cannot usually use them as they are fixed into a stand to protect us  :'(
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Post by: NWH on March 05, 2009, 08:45:24 pm
Glyder i hope that means it slides up and down with ease unlike some poles.
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Post by: CLEANGLASSUK on March 05, 2009, 08:49:16 pm
It looks like they have been designed by a tattoo artist  ;D
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Post by: Alex Gardiner on March 05, 2009, 08:55:44 pm
SLX move over..........http://www.ionicsystems.com/english/news.html

The GLYDER pole:
Weighing just 2.61Kg and made using only 5ft sections, this new pole will appeal to the window cleaner who does a lot of work under 30ft. Perfect for those who need a pole light and narrow enough (35mm) to comfortably use all day.

I think the SL-X is still safe as it's 5ft longer and weighs 0.8kg less.  :)
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Post by: Window Washers on March 05, 2009, 09:01:13 pm
It looks like they have been designed by a tattoo artist  ;D
Designed in my company colours, I'm liking the look.
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Clive McDonald on March 05, 2009, 09:27:25 pm
There is still room for new trad products.

When doing insides that mucky water that drips off the end of a squeege stains carpets and sills, find a way of collecting it cleanly off the bottom of a squeege as it's drawn across and you'll have a winner.
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Captain Scarlet on March 05, 2009, 09:27:36 pm
I still want to check this one out! looks nice!
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Post by: Alex Gardiner on March 05, 2009, 09:31:45 pm
I still want to check this one out! looks nice!

You traitor - how dare you!!  ;D
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Clive McDonald on March 05, 2009, 09:41:56 pm
There is still room for new trad products.

When doing insides that mucky water that drips off the end of a squeege stains carpets and sills, find a way of collecting it cleanly off the bottom of a squeege as it's drawn across and you'll have a winner.

There is a way, just hold your applicator under it!
I'm just not very good at it. I also do straight pulls(sorry i know you all look up to me as a sort of leader), but this is a massive market. I dread people asking me because i haven't got my machine.. advantages inside, but they always do. If i could just get faster i would be minted- well more minted-. I got a wagtail but i haven't been able to figure out how to use that either.
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Post by: Captain Scarlet on March 05, 2009, 09:51:55 pm
I still want to check this one out! looks nice!

You traitor - how dare you!!  ;D

hhahaa, keeping you on your toes!!
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: windowswashed on March 06, 2009, 02:36:42 am
SLX move over..........http://www.ionicsystems.com/english/news.html

The GLYDER pole:
Weighing just 2.61Kg and made using only 5ft sections, this new pole will appeal to the window cleaner who does a lot of work under 30ft. Perfect for those who need a pole light and narrow enough (35mm) to comfortably use all day.

I think the SL-X is still safe as it's 5ft longer and weighs 0.8kg less.  :)

Ionics domestic poles are no comparison to the 30ft SL-X by gardinerpole systems. I know which poles I'll stick with. No competition. Ionics have a lousy after sales customer care. I'm still waiting for something from them from at least 4months ago. I think their after sales service sucks.
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Dave Turley on March 06, 2009, 08:33:20 am
that may be, but at least they'll probably have some stock!

alex, can I take this opportunity to ask why you don't take pre-orders? (if I wanted another sl-x i'd be willing to pre-pay to secure one)

once one batch was pre-sold you'd  already have the dosh to place an order for the next barch.

I dread to think how many people are going elsewhere due to unavailability!
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 06, 2009, 09:05:17 am
that may be, but at least they'll probably have some stock!

alex, can I take this opportunity to ask why you don't take pre-orders? (if I wanted another sl-x i'd be willing to pre-pay to secure one)

once one batch was pre-sold you'd  already have the dosh to place an order for the next barch.

I dread to think how many people are going elsewhere due to unavailability!

Seconded ...
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on March 06, 2009, 09:14:57 am
that may be, but at least they'll probably have some stock!

alex, can I take this opportunity to ask why you don't take pre-orders? (if I wanted another sl-x i'd be willing to pre-pay to secure one)

once one batch was pre-sold you'd  already have the dosh to place an order for the next barch.

I dread to think how many people are going elsewhere due to unavailability!

It's not a question of dosh (I wish it was that simple).

The problem with this product is that there should have been a seamless supply of the first SL-X which we sold throughout the Spring and Summer of 2008. We had to switch manufacturers and this created a delay and a group of clients and overseas distributors who were then waiting for the product ahead of release.

This then gives us the next situation with ordering items like this is that generally you have to place an order to book a production slot about 2 months ahead of time. Once you have booked a production slot you cannot increase it, but have to book a separate order for another production slot which naturally will be behind the first one. The trouble with this is that if your demand suddenly goes up you still have to patiently wait for the next batch to roll off the production line. Couple this with the fact that these poles are enormously complicated to hand assemble and finish, leads to the situation where it has taken about 4 weeks to deal with the back log.

They will be going back on general sale again in about 3-4 weeks time.

The trouble with taking pre-orders is that it puts even more pressure on us to deliver what is to some degree out of our control. We have also found that getting hold of clients who have pre-ordered takes so long that it ties up valuable staff resources that should be answering the phone/packing orders etc.

Ideally no one would have known about the product until we had several hundred un-reserved poles on the shelf waiting for clients. Because this was a follow on product this was not possible. We do have several more new products in the production line which we are keeping very quite about until we have full stock levels in the warehouse.

We are getting there though thanks to the patience of our customers!! :)

Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Pj on March 06, 2009, 09:20:34 am
that may be, but at least they'll probably have some stock!

alex, can I take this opportunity to ask why you don't take pre-orders? (if I wanted another sl-x i'd be willing to pre-pay to secure one)

once one batch was pre-sold you'd  already have the dosh to place an order for the next barch.

I dread to think how many people are going elsewhere due to unavailability!

Seconded ...

Try not to worry about it! ;D

I should think it's a fine line for Gardiners to tread, being suppliers of expensive stock, if you don't read the market right you could end up with £thousands & £thousands in dead stock, this market is changing fast and clients are very fickle.  Better to let demand outstrip supply and lose a few sales.

Alternatively be a big time supplier and have inflated prices, poor customer care & impersonal after sales service.  
Everyone praises Gardiners for their fair prices good after care and  Alex makes himself very accessible.

You can't please all the people all the time.

Anyway, I buy from both! ;D
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Oakley Windows on March 06, 2009, 09:21:31 am
There is still room for new trad products.

When doing insides that mucky water that drips off the end of a squeege stains carpets and sills, find a way of collecting it cleanly off the bottom of a squeege as it's drawn across and you'll have a winner.

Glue a bucket onto the end of your squeegee :)
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Alex Gardiner on March 06, 2009, 09:27:22 am
We have lost sales. We've actually out-lined the other poles available (X-Tel, Facelift, Brodex) for clients who have rung wanting an SL-X.  At the end of the day, it's only a pole - not a kidney!
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Oakley Windows on March 06, 2009, 09:37:40 am
Im sure theres a joke there somewhere :0)
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: Dave Turley on March 06, 2009, 10:22:39 am
We have lost sales. We've actually out-lined the other poles available (X-Tel, Facelift, Brodex) for clients who have rung wanting an SL-X.  At the end of the day, it's only a pole - not a kidney!

alex! why would you say that?

I could live without one of my kidneys!  lmao   :D
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: rhys11 on March 07, 2009, 10:18:26 pm
its a different colour change resin container

now it changes to YELLOW when depleted, easier for the users to spot when its time to change it




YEllOW god i cant waite
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: jouk45 on March 07, 2009, 10:49:16 pm
There is still room for new trad products.

When doing insides that mucky water that drips off the end of a squeege stains carpets and sills, find a way of collecting it cleanly off the bottom of a squeege as it's drawn across and you'll have a winner.
its here already the karcher wv 50 google it
Title: Re: IONIC - TRICK UP THERE SLEEVE?
Post by: williamx on March 07, 2009, 10:52:12 pm
SLX move over..........http://www.ionicsystems.com/english/news.html

The GLYDER pole:
Weighing just 2.61Kg and made using only 5ft sections, this new pole will appeal to the window cleaner who does a lot of work under 30ft. Perfect for those who need a pole light and narrow enough (35mm) to comfortably use all day.

I think the SL-X is still safe as it's 5ft longer and weighs 0.8kg less.  :)

So if you use the SLX you only need 1 weetabix for breakfast while the GLYDER means you need to have 2 ;D