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Title: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 10:11:20 am
hi guys, will be getting my poles soon as i have the vac etc allready.  just wondering how busy you are and where you advertise.  Is there a big demand for gutter cleaning?  i will give all my customers a leaflet when i get them done after i get my poles.  Just waiting for more money as pressure washinf is very quiet at mo.  :(
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: jeff1 on March 04, 2009, 10:25:53 am
All the extra rain brings in extra customers as this is the time most people take notice of their guttering.
Then you get the ones who like to keep it looking clean and in good condition, we at the moment have loads of guttering to do, so get those leaflets out.
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 10:29:49 am
cheers mate, do you just do the sludge inside the gutter or the fascia and outer gutters?
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: jeff1 on March 04, 2009, 10:35:32 am
No I do the lot or nothing, if there insistant on Just the internal clean then I charge for a full clean but I'm in a position were I can choose what I do.

It still takes time to set everything up and clear away so  I charge good prices.
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: Blue Sky 2 on March 04, 2009, 01:07:42 pm
Dont worry to much it will be money well spent and it is another source of income. Get a web site up and running and it will bring in a few extra customers at very little cost. i clean inside and out both easy to do.


Sean
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 01:10:41 pm
do you use traffic film remover and pressure washing extendable lance to clean the outer gutter and fascia? do you run the trf through your pressure washer?
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: Blue Sky 2 on March 04, 2009, 01:15:30 pm
I do both I also use a pole and brush run off an outside tap whatever it takes. Black stains do not always come out, always advise customer before that some black marks may not be completly removed. Its trial and error.

Sean
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 01:21:58 pm
how do you apply the tfr?  i just ordered my gutter cleaning poles so im made up.  can start getting organised and promoting soon.  ;D
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: Blue Sky 2 on March 04, 2009, 01:44:46 pm
Who you getting the poles from. I use a pump up with long reach lance. I cant find the web site for the lance at the moment but when I do Iwill send you address.
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: Blue Sky 2 on March 04, 2009, 01:51:59 pm
Here it is www.interiorlandscaping.co.uk  click on sprayers at bottom of page 5mtr lance.
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 01:55:54 pm
getting the poles from alex.  do you go up the ladder to spray the gutters with tfr? wouldnt a pole from the ground be better to apply tfr. ???
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 01:59:30 pm
just seen a 3 metre extandable pump sprayer lance on that website? i suppose i could use a step ladder and a 3 metre lance with pump spray to apply tfr? ???
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 02:26:53 pm
is it ok to use custies electric or should i use a generator? i might have to use custies elecrtic at first till i can afford a gernerator.  what gene would be suitable or can you recommend a type or model?
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 02:36:18 pm
hi guys just looked at this from screw fix to power my 3000w wet n dry vac for gutter vacuuming. will this be ok?
my vac is the following rating *POWER:TRIPLE 1000W BYPASS MOTORS. 220 – 240 V
*VACUUM SUCTION: 3000mm H²0
*TANK: STAINLESS STEEL - 80 LITRES
*AIR FLOW: 100 Ltr/Sec
*CABLE LENGTH: 7 METRE

the generator is below im looking at.

SDMO HX2700 2500W Generator  Powerful, heavy duty Generator with a reliable engine that's easy to start. Robust construction with 110V output.
Honda GX160 Petrol Engine
Recoil Start
3hrs Max. Run Time at 3/4 Load
Low Oil Cut-off
Thermal Circuit Overload Breakers
IP23
HX2700, 1Ltr oil.

               
£371.91 
 
 
 
 
the generator is only rated at 2500 w but my vac is 3000 w so is this no good?  i might just use custies socket to save money. ??? ::)
 
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: Blue Sky 2 on March 04, 2009, 02:41:04 pm
There is a 5 mtr lance on that site, you need about 5kva gennie. We always try to use customers electric supply residential and commerical where poss easer for us. You will need an extension lead, go to an electrical suppliers tell them what you are using it for plus the power rating for the hoover they will make you one up or supply you the bits. We use the gutter vac from omnipole with alloy poles, Are your poles carbon? and if you dont mind me asking how much do they cost.

Sean
 
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 02:47:54 pm
poles carbon yeah, 59 quid each.  i got my extension cable from screw fix, 50 metres.
would this generator be enough for vac?

GX 160 Honda 5.5 petrol generator


it has two power out puts 110v and 240v
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 02:52:59 pm
blue sky (sean) looked at your website and i like it man! very nice. do you get much work from it? where do you advertise it? on google.?
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: Blue Sky 2 on March 04, 2009, 03:11:12 pm
Thanks, I get a far bit of work from the web site yes on google. A 5.5 kva should be enough, have a look on the side of you vac it should tell you the max peek of power required. A 5.5 kva = 5500 watts ( i think ). What legth and width are the poles from Alex.
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 03:14:35 pm
well the 5.5 gene gives 240v which is a normal electric socket supply so it must be enough. its only the same as plugging it into a custies socket surely? 

the poles are 5ft long. i got 4 of them. :)
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 03:23:56 pm
poles are 51mm wide .
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 04:04:41 pm
i just phoned a guy up who supplys hot washers and generators. he said its not as strraight forward as i think just saying the wet n dry will run off 240v generator. he said you need to get a generator with double the wattage to supply the vac, somewhere around 7kva he said. its to do with the current.  and here is me trying to buy a small gx160 generator.  it would have prob blew up trying to run my vacuum?  its getting complicated. will the vac affect the custys electric if i use theres.?
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: Blue Sky 2 on March 04, 2009, 04:17:14 pm
Make sure you plug into a proper supply point in the property ie wall socket, be aware of extensions to garages etc.

Omnipole sell generators or do a search on google.
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 04:23:34 pm
i think im going to stick with custies electric to save money.  ftp said i would need a generator around 80 kilos in weight around 5kva or more.  also i would be using to juice to run it.  why pay more just use custies.
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: Blue Sky 2 on March 04, 2009, 04:54:00 pm
Ftp is right, if you can get away without a gennie its a bonus. A petrol driven vac would be best but  a good one has not been developed yet. Its early days for gutter vac development but I am sure equipment will get better. One bid of advise do not under estimate the time to do a job, time to set up, clean and clear away at least an hour on small job. We have min charge of £80 - £ 120 two/three bedroom semi. £120 - £180 4/5 bed. Commerical watch out for the box gutters can be diffcult to clear out shrubs etc.
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 04:59:09 pm
cheers shaun, thanks for the good advise.so how long does your average 2/3 bed semi take and how do you price it?, by the lenght of gutter per metre or just a standard charge per house?
Title: Re: gutter cleaning guys
Post by: drive surgeon on March 04, 2009, 05:10:52 pm
i suppose industrial estates and commercial premises with not too high gutters will all need doing hey? i will have to get my leaflets done asap.   i think here in the north west my minimum charge will be £50 for work as the prices are not as high as down your way.   i would rather just suck all the gutters than pressure wash all the fascia etc unless im short of work.