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Title: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 24, 2009, 08:10:20 pm
Well this is becoming quite costly, the complete break system ( break cylinder, hoses...etc etc ) has been replaced except the calipers ( on account of 6 mechanics insisting there was NOTHING wrong with them ) and its still binding. Has anybody else had this problem?

Its binding intermittently, and will release after a few minutes..... it's driving me crazy. Ive spoken to loads of garages and experts including 3 peugeot garages. Nobody knows what is wrong.

When the breaks bind they will either release or you can stop the engine, push the break pedal hard to the floor ad that will usually do the trick.

This is driving me nuts!!! There's another possibility, that the abs is causing it, but the abs sensors on the front hubs have been changed!

Well, its certainly a very rare problem ( thats costed me hundreds upon hundreds ) anybody have any experience
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: ftp on February 24, 2009, 08:33:34 pm
why hasn't anyone cleaned the callipers and pistons and fitted new pads?
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: mick hay on February 24, 2009, 08:42:54 pm
My scudo, which has peugeot running gear has a problem at the moment.

When accelerating, it suddenly hits a flat spot, kangaroos and kicks out some smoke. When on a straight run say at 50, it does it loads then gets a diesel rattle after.
Took to an independent, nothing showiing on the comp, so changed the fuel  filter, still the same.

Took to fiat, they ran diagnostics, nothing came up, and when i asked what do you think, they shrugged their shoulders!!!

Going to another independent on friday.   Those main dealers dont know a thing!!!
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 24, 2009, 08:47:04 pm
why hasn't anyone cleaned the callipers and pistons and fitted new pads?

they have
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: ftp on February 24, 2009, 08:48:44 pm
and discs?
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 24, 2009, 08:53:44 pm
yep
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: ftp on February 24, 2009, 08:59:23 pm
did they bind before the work was done or were the discs etc changed because of the binding?
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Window Washers on February 24, 2009, 09:05:23 pm
I had this sort of problem with my relay 2.0hdi, garage said needed new calpiers and want near on a grand with new pads and disks, I had the calipers cleaned and refitted with new pads and disks for about £200, problem solved, some garages will say they cant be fixed, they can. My wheels were getting very hot was the main reason I found out
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 25, 2009, 08:34:12 am
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I had this sort of problem with my relay 2.0hdi, garage said needed new calpiers and want near on a grand with new pads and disks, I had the calipers cleaned and refitted with new pads and disks for about £200, problem solved, some garages will say they cant be fixed, they can. My wheels were getting very hot was the main reason I found out

WindowWashers:

Where your brakes actually binding on in a similar way to miine? on my van, the drivers side is binding worse. Perhaps it really is the calipers, despite 6 mechanics insisting otherwise! Well, hopefully some more people can add their suggestions, thanks for all your help so far!
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 25, 2009, 09:03:07 am
Ive found a site with people with very similar problems ( changed entire, or near enough entire brake system, with no luck ), but a guy suggested the rod from the pedal to servo ( replacing or getting adjusted )

A couple of guys with exactly the same problem as me did this, and solved the problem, this is most likely my next step

CLICK THE LINK ( relevant words are highlighted )

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:GZ7kno6F7xIJ:www.carsurvey.org/viewcomments_review_58686.html+peugeot+expert+brakes+binding&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=safari

I will keep this topic updated as hopefully it will really help a member from spending the amounts I have on the brakes!!
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Window Washers on February 25, 2009, 09:19:29 am
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I had this sort of problem with my relay 2.0hdi, garage said needed new calpiers and want near on a grand with new pads and disks, I had the calipers cleaned and refitted with new pads and disks for about £200, problem solved, some garages will say they cant be fixed, they can. My wheels were getting very hot was the main reason I found out

WindowWashers:

Where your brakes actually binding on in a similar way to miine? on my van, the drivers side is binding worse. Perhaps it really is the calipers, despite 6 mechanics insisting otherwise! Well, hopefully some more people can add their suggestions, thanks for all your help so far!
Yeah mine was on drivers side more and was doing my head in as did not happen all the time, as the van was going slower, and fuel was going down quick yet not getting very far fast. The hot tyre was the worst thing, at leave if you have a look at the calipers if it is not that you can rule it out, one goodvthing is for sure once finished your van will have a great braking system  :D
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 25, 2009, 09:24:35 am
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once finished your van will have a great braking system

mmm, I dont think the Peugeot and words great braking system go hand in hand!!! I used to think this was a great van....im having my doubts. Why cant they get something as simple and as important as the brakes built properly! Its shocking.

Im starting to hate French vehicles
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Window Washers on February 25, 2009, 09:25:40 am
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once finished your van will have a great braking system

mmm, I dont think the Peugeot and words great braking system go hand in hand!!! I used to think this was a great van....im having my doubts. Why cant they get something as simple and as important as the brakes built properly! Its shocking.

Im starting to hate French vehicles
I learnt that by having to replace my engine that had only done 30k lol
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: ok cleaning on February 25, 2009, 03:22:11 pm
how old is your van?
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 25, 2009, 04:55:55 pm
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how old is your van?

late 03, shocking isnt it!!
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Clive McDonald on February 25, 2009, 05:30:23 pm
luke
how high will the sl2 go? how much are they? and does he generaly have them available?
Is it best to have one of his brushes on it?

(to save posting another alex query)
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 25, 2009, 05:38:00 pm
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luke
how high will the sl2 go? how much are they? and does he generaly have them available?
Is it best to have one of his brushes on it?


My sl-x is a 25ft. The new ones are 30ft. I can only vouch for the older one, which is brilliant, but Im sure the new one is close or even better, given Gardiners brilliant track record. Regarding the brush, yes use Gardiners own brush, it:s very very good, but an even better option would be a converted Tucker pole brush ( but will cost around £55 )

www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Gardiner_Pole_Systems_SL-X.html (http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Gardiner_Pole_Systems_SL-X.html)
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: ftp on February 25, 2009, 06:07:54 pm
I thought he said S2  ???
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 25, 2009, 06:26:10 pm
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I thought he said S2 

good point!! haha thanks. My sl2 is 50ft, its a brilliant pole. Heres the link:

www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Super-Lite_Pole_Assemblies.html (http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Super-Lite_Pole_Assemblies.html)

site states "14 day lead time currently on this product."so they seem to be available quickly
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: tonyoliver on February 25, 2009, 09:25:01 pm
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Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: mark coates on February 25, 2009, 09:43:45 pm
got the exact same problem with my 04 scudo brakes binding on. doesnt seem to be the back ones, and seems the drivers side is worst, iv had both calipers changed along with discs and pads and hasnt made any difference. i was advised that the rod into the server might be the problem so thats the next thing im going to try
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: ladders no more on February 25, 2009, 11:03:19 pm
Had a simaler problem on a renault
it was the brake flexes the rubber inside perished and blocked up
Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 26, 2009, 07:56:26 am
ladders no more:

isnt the problem, ive had them replaced, though your problem is a common fault.

m coates cleaning:

did you click the link on the first page, its people with the same p get problem as us, its most likely the rod from pedal to servo, i hope you get yours sorted too!

Title: Re: PEUGEOT EXPERT 2.0 HDI FRONT BREAKS BINDING????
Post by: ladders no more on February 26, 2009, 06:49:59 pm
Thanks riahehttrepuR

Ill have to stop skip reading  ;D