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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JandS on February 21, 2009, 02:18:40 pm

Title: Blood
Post by: JandS on February 21, 2009, 02:18:40 pm
Large bloodstain on an as yet unknown carpet type.
Looking at it and hopefully treating it at the same time Monday afternoon.
Been there since Weds.
Will it come out easily or should we just go down the insurance path.
The woman burst a blood vessel.

John
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: markpowell on February 21, 2009, 03:20:23 pm
John,
When dealing with blood make sure you use cold water as you should with most stains, this is the method i would use.
1. Rinse with cold water
2. Apply Stain pro, 10 mins dwell time
3. rinse with cold water
4. If stain visible, repeat steps 2+3
5. If you have any stubborn areas you could try rust remover.
6. Sanitize area.

If the carpet is wool or wool mix, and depending on how long the blood has been there it may be an insurance claim,
Blood stains sometimes wick back so make the customer aware before you start that a 2nd visit is often required.

Good luck Mark
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: clinton on February 21, 2009, 03:24:47 pm
Mark

Good post it said it all :)
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: markpowell on February 21, 2009, 04:03:32 pm
Cheers ;)
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: dave123 on February 21, 2009, 04:12:35 pm
Ashby's number2 spotter is also very good at removing blood stains or even Enzall.As Mark says they do have a tendency to wick back .
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: Paul Simpson on February 21, 2009, 04:46:54 pm
Used salt on a few blood stains, worked everytime  :o
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: markpowell on February 21, 2009, 05:14:38 pm
Yes i have used cold water & salt mixed and applied before and got a result, think it works better on fresh blood.
Mark
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: The Great One on February 21, 2009, 05:21:44 pm
Hi

OK, with blood you have to be very careful. Although HIV only lasts a few days outside the body, there may be other BBP's (Blood bourne Pathogens) present, also a small stain on the surface (size of a coin) can be the size of a dinner plate underneath.

Other factors:

Is she on any medication?
Does she have cancer or any other Infection (Hepatitis)?
Any drug usage?
Has it penetrated the floor boards or sub structure?

You HAVE to know these answers before proceeding.

Clean-up:

Sanitise the area first, either use a Biocide (15 min dwell time) or a biological soap powder.

Always use cold water (protein will congeal under temperature)

A stain may remain even though the area is clean, blood chemically reacts and although sanitized and clean, the stain may remain.

Blood and body fluids will emit pheromones on the air attracting flies which will lay maggots, you must may sure all blood is cleaned up.

Good luck

Martin 8)
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: robert meldrum on February 21, 2009, 08:16:05 pm
Also...............you should wear a mask over your nose and mouth as your machine will leach into the atmosphere, not just from the exhaust, but any hose connection that have a less than perfect seal.
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: The Great One on February 21, 2009, 08:40:16 pm
Hi

You will need to cover eyes, nose and mouth in case of splashes & any cuts, your machine will also have to be decontaminated fully and any contaminated carpet, cloths, clothes, gloves or floorboards will have to be collected and incinerated.

2 consignment notes are required 1 for pick up, 1 for incineration

These must be kept on file for 3 years.

Regards

Martin 8)
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: Len Gribble on February 21, 2009, 08:54:19 pm
Martin

Hope you informed the insurance companies of the rules ;D

Len
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: The Great One on February 21, 2009, 09:28:04 pm
Hi len

Of course!!!

Forgot about insurance  :o

Make sure you are covered by your insurance to work with Blood, don't forget your on site risk assessment and any staff and fully aware of the risks and your Exposure control plan is up to date.

Cheers Len ;)

Regards

Martin 8)
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: Neil Williams on February 21, 2009, 09:54:18 pm
2 consignment notes are required 1 for pick up, 1 for incineration
These must be kept on file for 3 years.

Are we talking major blood cleanups or does this include any small amounts which could form part of just a regular carpet clean, because how many times have we asked on inspection what each spot was and been told, bit of gravy there, baby sick there, sliced my toe over there.
Now I understand if someone has bleed to death there's a need for all this, but a 'regular' cut that was stopped by the same person?
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: The Great One on February 21, 2009, 10:02:42 pm
Hi

Only if you are disposing of blood or contaminated items that needs to be incinerated.

To transport say, a blood soaked rug, you would need a Hazardous waste carriers license and if you cannot clean it then a licensed waste carrier would have to transport it for incineration, it cannot just be lobbed away.

If someone had had a nosebleed, then you could sanitise and suck up, but your equipment would need to be decontaminated.

Regards

Martin 8)
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: Neil Williams on February 21, 2009, 11:16:27 pm
Thanks for clearering that matter up (could have used better words!)
So it's all about disposal of items/contents.
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: The Great One on February 21, 2009, 11:25:18 pm
Hi

Yep

These are the penalties:

Penalties (Regulation 69)
27. Notification, consignment and related offences can only be tried in the
Magistrates’ Court (summary only offences) The maximum penalty that
can be imposed on anyone convicted of these offences is the statutory
maximum (currently £5,000) or six months in prison.

28. Those offences which are potentially more serious can be tried either in
the Magistrates’ Court or the Crown Court (triable either way). The
maximum sentence that can be imposed in a Crown Court for offences
that are triable either way under the Regulations is an unlimited fine or
two years imprisonment or both.

Regards

Martin 8)
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: daysdeepclean on February 22, 2009, 12:04:53 am
You'd be better off sub contracting the job to a "Splash and dash" C/C ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: JandS on February 22, 2009, 07:26:44 pm
Thanks for all the replies.
Am going there tomorrow afternoon so will see exactly how large the stain is before deciding on a plan of action.
Once again thank you.

John
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: The Great One on February 22, 2009, 08:58:14 pm
Hi

John, take a picture, lets have a look.

Regards

Martin 8)
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: JandS on February 23, 2009, 10:05:36 am
Will do if I remember and if I work out how to post it.

John
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: JandS on February 23, 2009, 11:09:16 am
If it has to be removed is it a council job or environment agency or a specialist firm??

John
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: clinton on February 23, 2009, 12:17:07 pm
John

Is it that bad ???
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: JandS on February 23, 2009, 12:30:05 pm
Going to it now.

John
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: The Great One on February 23, 2009, 02:16:39 pm
If it has to be removed is it a council job or environment agency or a specialist firm??

John

You can do it, but you will need full PPE.

Basically you cut the carpet up into squares and put them into yellow bio-hazard bin bags and call a company in to pick up and incinerate them, I can give you the company who can give you the bags and pick up/incinerate when you are ready.

Regards

Martin 8)
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: JandS on February 23, 2009, 08:24:06 pm
Blood spatters all over the carpet, guy just wanted me to say they wouldn't come out for insurance.
Didn't think for long, it would have taken ages to do them individually.
Had a quick go with Stain Pro but it didn't change much although my heart wasn't in it when I knew he just wanted new.
He got a note for insurance and I got paid.
Handsome.

Thanks for all your advice especially the specialist advice from Martin, will keep you in mind for future reference.

John
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: The Great One on February 24, 2009, 07:44:59 am
Hi

Absolute pleasure John.

Regards

Martin 8)
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: masterclean87 on February 24, 2009, 09:59:22 am
www.housecleaningtips.co.uk

 :o
Title: Re: Blood
Post by: Mark Lane-Matthews on February 24, 2009, 02:09:33 pm
WD 40 ;)

                         Mark