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Title: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: Window Washers on February 20, 2009, 07:09:37 pm
One of my vans wfp systems went dead today, nothing no power at all on one pump and ecoflow.

I checked fuses nothing wrong :-\, changed them just incase nothing still, anyone had this or know any fault finding methods that will save me time tomorrow ? one pump died 2 weeks ago and this pump is new

Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: easycleaner on February 20, 2009, 08:14:44 pm
Hi, is the battery charged? If so, wire the pump direct to the battery if it runs its the controller at fault.
Mart.
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: tomy jackson on February 20, 2009, 09:17:46 pm
the uther may well be ok to try it blak to neg on bat red to pos on bat
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: Andrew McCann on February 20, 2009, 09:19:14 pm
Ian.

1... battery.  Is it charged?   Answer = yes try:

1..  check connections. Sometimes those "snap close" connectors can work loose. Try squeezing them with pliers.

2.. Try DIRECTLY wiring pump to battery. If it works it's the controller at fault.

3 If it doesn't work it's the pump.


Just thought I would help the PF tech help above along  ;D   ;D


Andrew

Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: tomy jackson on February 20, 2009, 09:31:08 pm
most conters are us as not many peps use qolity crimpers and im torking electrisons and mercanics they use  the chepo ones mine are richit typ not like the pliyers tipe that rely on just sqeging em mine cost £75 20 years a go
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: Window Washers on February 20, 2009, 10:39:47 pm
Just need to add, I stripped wires positive/ neg so was bare, and still no joy, I will test pump direct in morning, but can there be anything else ?

Battery is fine
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: Rob.Hall on February 21, 2009, 01:20:41 am
I had a problem with no power.

Turned out to be a lose wire that had worked free. This was inside the controler. You would have never seen it. I was just fiddling with all the wires and zoom away it went. The clip connector had opened up slightly causing the problem.
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: elite mike on February 21, 2009, 09:39:16 am
I had a problem with no power.

Turned out to be a lose wire that had worked free. This was inside the controler. You would have never seen it. I was just fiddling with all the wires and zoom away it went. The clip connector had opened up slightly causing the problem.

had that with my t-35 ,took ages to find it ::)
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on February 21, 2009, 11:00:16 am
Is the pressure switch wired in. When they go they give exactly the same symptoms.

Simon.
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: Window Washers on February 21, 2009, 05:01:57 pm
ok, found out where the proble is now how to fix it  :-\

tested pump working fine, took pump off eco flow light comes on, as some as I put the pump back on power goes off, if i connect with power off the light does not come on. Any ideas ?
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: wightsurf on February 21, 2009, 06:54:55 pm
I don't under stand this bit> if i connect with power off the light does not come on.
Because if the power is Off the light cant come on  ???
Have you got a multimeter ? If so try using it on the Eco Flow ,to see if it sends a reading when turned on and off. It should show what the power is doing.

Regards

Wightsurf *****  ;D
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: Window Washers on February 21, 2009, 07:18:07 pm
I don't under stand this bit> if i connect with power off the light does not come on.
Because if the power is Off the light cant come on  ???
Have you got a multimeter ? If so try using it on the Eco Flow ,to see if it sends a reading when turned on and off. It should show what the power is doing.

Regards

Wightsurf *****  ;D
I mean when I take the pump off it works, and if I add the pump when the poswer is on in eco flow it stops working,
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: wightsurf on February 21, 2009, 07:20:02 pm
Have you got a multi meter to see what it's up to ?
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: Window Washers on February 21, 2009, 11:00:52 pm
Have you got a multi meter to see what it's up to ?
Nope
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: STEVE-UK on February 22, 2009, 08:28:10 pm
if the pump works ok when directly connected to battery and the light comes on the eco flow when pump is disconnected,

sounds like the eco flow is faulty(have you got it wet?) or a wire is shorting out somewhere, maybe worn and touching metal between battery and eco flow
Title: Re: WFP SYSTEM POWER PROBLEM ?
Post by: Window Washers on February 22, 2009, 09:14:00 pm
if the pump works ok when directly connected to battery and the light comes on the eco flow when pump is disconnected,

sounds like the eco flow is faulty(have you got it wet?) or a wire is shorting out somewhere, maybe worn and touching metal between battery and eco flow
I have looked at there is brown mark on ecoflo case been there for over a year, so maybe water got in as the tank lid from when i got the system has leaked.

Thats for the reply, Will get another one ordered