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Title: joining plastic
Post by: matt on February 19, 2009, 10:47:56 pm
does any1 know of any1 or can it be done DIY

i need to cut the top of a 25 L barrel and then the bottom of another barrel, thus creating a taller / bigger barrel

any1 know how it can be done ? ?  ?
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: d s windowcleaning on February 19, 2009, 11:00:54 pm
does any1 know of any1 or can it be done DIY

i need to cut the top of a 25 L barrel and then the bottom of another barrel, thus creating a taller / bigger barrel

any1 know how it can be done ? ?  ?
i would try to fuse together with melted plastic other than that matt you could be onto a no go idea .
but if any 1 can you can matt .
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: wizclean on February 19, 2009, 11:04:45 pm
just buy a bigger barrel,
 there problem solved ;D
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: matt on February 19, 2009, 11:08:46 pm
could try using fibreglass  ;D ;D

cheers, that was my first idea, but i thought welding plastic would be better


does any1 know of any1 or can it be done DIY

i need to cut the top of a 25 L barrel and then the bottom of another barrel, thus creating a taller / bigger barrel

any1 know how it can be done ? ?  ?
i would try to fuse together with melted plastic other than that matt you could be onto a no go idea .
but if any 1 can you can matt .

ive found plastic welders, but they are a bit pricey ( so not really cost effective to buy it for what i want )

i might go back to the fibreglass idea

it seems people repair ABS plastic bumpers with a a solder iron, so i guess it can be done

i keep on coming back to fibreglass though, i have experience in fibreglass, so thats a start
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: matt on February 19, 2009, 11:09:39 pm
just buy a bigger barrel,
 there problem solved ;D


 ;D ;D

it needs to be a taller 25 L barrel, otherwise it will not work for the plan i have ;)
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: wizclean on February 19, 2009, 11:13:54 pm
what if you used a strong adhesive and some silicone to prevent any leaks, overlap about 2 inchs that might work . i dont think its the kind of plastic that would take well to welding
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: d s windowcleaning on February 19, 2009, 11:18:28 pm
i dont thik fibre glass would bond to container plastic .
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: pjulk on February 19, 2009, 11:23:57 pm
I don't think fibreglass will bond either.

I have repaired a water barrel with soldering iron but i don't know if it would be strong enough to fix to barrels together.


I have also fixed my sons scooter panels with soldering iron and joining the broken parts with cable ties melted with the soldering iron into the breaks.
It worked well until he wrote the bike off.
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: matt on February 19, 2009, 11:51:57 pm
the plan with the fibreglass was to make a fibreglass barrel / drum, it could be the size i want

Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: Niall McAllister on February 19, 2009, 11:56:45 pm
double sided tape ???
always worked on blue peter ;D
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: jeff1 on February 20, 2009, 12:06:17 am
Check this site Matt, this stuff sticks like you know what.

http://www.tapes-direct.co.uk/very-hibond-tapes-c-152.html

or Sikaflex like whats used in caravan awning fixings
http://www.worldoftents.co.uk/sikaflex-512-caravan-sealant-p-1059.html
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: BDCS on February 20, 2009, 07:18:38 am
google space saver water butts - I've seen exactly what you want in a customers garden. They are made for going in alley ways
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: tomy jackson on February 20, 2009, 07:42:24 am
to welld it you have to hea both to gthear and push it to gthear pesicel
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: elite mike on February 21, 2009, 09:57:51 am
google space saver water butts - I've seen exactly what you want in a customers garden. They are made for going in alley ways

hi matt

ive got one of these spacesaver butts

i think they exactley what your looking for, the size is the same as the barrels

you can cut them down if its to big for you

price about £20 ish  from your local garden centre

mike

ps the butt will hold 100 ltrs
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: steve a on February 21, 2009, 10:16:32 am
google space saver water butts - I've seen exactly what you want in a customers garden. They are made for going in alley ways

hi matt

ive got one of these spacesaver butts

i think they exactley what your looking for, the size is the same as the barrels

you can cut them down if its to big for you

price about £20 ish  from your local garden centre

mike

ps the butt will hold 100 ltrs


Wish the wife had one of these. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: elite mike on February 21, 2009, 12:48:25 pm
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: Jeff Brimble on February 21, 2009, 02:08:59 pm
Dont think you can do it Matt, hope I am wrong  ;)
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: Pristine Clean on February 21, 2009, 05:20:40 pm
You could mould one.

Tape two barrells together.
Cutting the bottom off of the top one and the top off the bottom one.
One on top - duck tape into position and fibre glass a mould.

Now if you want the top of a barrel just get the top of the barrel at the top and you can also have the lid.

then get fibreglass liquild thus creating a mould of a taller barrel.

Althou long and hard work the space saver barrells are the best idea.

Or what about interlocking barrells

Dave

Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: dai on February 21, 2009, 05:34:19 pm
Matt, if we knew what you were trying to do we may come up with other ideas.
Reading all the above I'm still not sure what you want. Is it a taller 25 ltr container to fit on your trolley?
Or a longer water butt?
Title: Re: joining plastic
Post by: matt on February 24, 2009, 08:59:47 pm
thanks guys

ive been away for a long weekend, fri to monday in butlins ( if any1 wants to hear about it, let me know  ;) ) thus the lack of replies from me



cheers Jeff, ive used Sikaflex and recommended it to others, tbh i didnt think of it in this instance, good call though

cheers elite mike, i didnt think of them, would suit what i need, its allmost he same footspace as a 25 L barrel and i can cut the top off and glue it at the height i need

cheers Pristine Clean, that was the way i was going to go, mould the fibreglass to form a container, as you said, alot of work, but if done right it should last me a few years, then again, the space saver butt idea will do the job

dai, i have ditched my old trolley and im not using a sack truck, the diea is that the sack truck is lighter to lift into the van, i'm just trying to do as little lifting as possible with my hernia op ( its now been allmost 7 weeks and today was my first real day back in work and i really did struggle after a few hours )
i am now sub-pumping from my van tank in the van into my sack truck, i thought on a bigger tank on the sack truck ( something like 35 - 40 L ) the weight of TWO 25 L barrells is too much, as i'm doing up and downstairs with pole now, i wouldnt mind 2 houses out of 1 trip to the van ( thus need to be 35 - 40 L of water )