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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: DASERVICES on February 13, 2009, 06:02:57 pm
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Anyone seen the C&M magazine yet. Ionics to launch the 72ft Pole at the Cleaning Show. Looks impressive but probably big bucks.
As there is a contract advertise by Wandsworth Council for window cleaning.
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Better late than never. Got a link ?
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Better late than never. Got a link ?
haha jeff the record breaker is up for one :P
the only way is up!
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How heavy is it???
Ionics poles are ok,.. but even the latest offerings are too heavy for me to look twice at above 45'. I honestly thing that there is only one pole on the market at the moment I would consider for high work and that's the SL2.
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is it modular or tele?
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If its an Exel it will be tele, Cannot understand why its not higher than the Tucker3 man though, so its going to be very interesting at the show - something to look forward to. :D
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Here is the link to the page with the advert, hunt around and you will a bit on what Ionics are going to launch. Also Cleaningspot have copied Ionics whtih an internal wfp.
http://viewer.zmags.com/htmlCat/index.php?mid=wpqfpq&pageid=27
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"its the longest water fed pole of its type ever manufactured"....mmm a bit careful with their words there. Its not as long as the biggest Tucker, which is also a telescopic is it!!!!
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But it is at the moment the longest 'WFP made of Carbon Fibre in telescoping sections', so the type must be 'of composite construction with quick release clamps' all of which the Tucker does not have. It's amazing how you can phrase things.
Despite clever wording, I know I would rather work with it than the Tucker, those things bend. It sounds like it is made of similar High-Modulus carbon the same as the Facelift One that was introduced a while back. The Facelift only goes to 65ft though.
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Looks like 8 clamps so thats 9 sections-like the ergo 1&2, if its 72ft pole reach then that is 9x8ft=72ft less an overlap of say 9" per section =6ft"
so thats 66ft" plus 5ft body reach, hmm that dont add up but its fun to conjecture.
It may be a thinner lighter version of the E2
I am betting it willl be a well researched pole, Is That Ruben in his shirt in the Pic ? ???
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But it is at the moment the longest 'WFP made of Carbon Fibre in telescoping sections', so the type must be 'of composite construction with quick release clamps' all of which the Tucker does not have. It's amazing how you can phrase things.
Despite clever wording, I know I would rather work with it than the Tucker, those things bend. It sounds like it is made of similar High-Modulus carbon the same as the Facelift One that was introduced a while back. The Facelift only goes to 65ft though.
Alex when you going to do a 60ft + tele pole in carbon ? you must be thinking about it, you cracked the modular pole and your winning hands down, time for the tele pole, give us a hint ;D
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But it is at the moment the longest 'WFP made of Carbon Fibre in telescoping sections', so the type must be 'of composite construction with quick release clamps' all of which the Tucker does not have. It's amazing how you can phrase things.
Despite clever wording, I know I would rather work with it than the Tucker, those things bend. It sounds like it is made of similar High-Modulus carbon the same as the Facelift One that was introduced a while back. The Facelift only goes to 65ft though.
Alex when you going to do a 60ft + tele pole in carbon ? you must be thinking about it, you cracked the modular pole and your winning hands down, time for the tele pole, give us a hint ;D
Yer come on Alex, when.. I would love a full collection 17ft, 30ft,45ft and then eventually a 65ft slx
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But it is at the moment the longest 'WFP made of Carbon Fibre in telescoping sections', so the type must be 'of composite construction with quick release clamps' all of which the Tucker does not have. It's amazing how you can phrase things.
Despite clever wording, I know I would rather work with it than the Tucker, those things bend. It sounds like it is made of similar High-Modulus carbon the same as the Facelift One that was introduced a while back. The Facelift only goes to 65ft though.
Alex when you going to do a 60ft + tele pole in carbon ? you must be thinking about it, you cracked the modular pole and your winning hands down, time for the tele pole, give us a hint ;D
Interesting thought. We do have the technology in development right now to give us a 10 section telescopic pole. This should be ready by late April, but I still cannot see the benefit of a telescopic pole at these heights. A Super-Lite at these heights is sooooo much lighter. And has the benefit of being able to be easily used at any height below this as well. We do have clients who regularly work at 70ft, in fact in Russia the Super-Lite is sold as a 70ft package.
I do understand that there are those who will never want to work with a Modular pole and for these the new Ionics' 72ft Pole (I think that must be reach so actual will be about 68ft) will be the choice pole.
RWC - :)
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spot on alex, i couldnt imagine using anything other than modular at that height, i have 80 ft of modular pole but rarely if ever do i use it to heights over 60 feet, it could cope very well at 72 feet if i had that type of work. however to even contemplate a telescopic pole at that height is sheer madness as the weight simply cannot match the lightness of the modulars. 8)
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Alex a mate of mine has tried the sl2 says its nice and light but he prefers all his ionics as he likes a bit of weight as he says its easier to control in higher winds and he gets better scrubbing with a bit of weight behind it, so i dont think you should just stick to modular at that height, a lot of people would buy it, also people take your opinions on items and i think it wouldnt be on the shelf if you didnt rate it. This is why i like to deal with yourself, Andrew McCann, gaps etc as these people know what there talking about and not just trying to make extra cash, Oh and I love the new brush ;D
Chris (jaykie shh)
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The pole that interests me is the one they are launching for residential window cleaners a 28ft carbon pole, does anyone know any more on that new pole from ionics?
The 65ft pole looks interesting if you can reach the clamps to put it up, must make it easier to work at that height range.
What do you think of the orange clamps? :o
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The pole that interests me is the one they are launching for residential window cleaners a 28ft carbon pole, does anyone know any more on that new pole from ionics?
The 65ft pole looks interesting if you can reach the clamps to put it up, must make it easier to work at that height range.
What do you think of the orange clamps? :o
Orange clamps, I like it ;D
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clamps made from orange peel?....mmm....maybe not strong enough to hold the sections together.....banana skins maybe, there again too slippy......back to the drawing board.....your remit is to make a workable clamp from fruit. :D
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The pole that interests me is the one they are launching for residential window cleaners a 28ft carbon pole.
What do you think of the orange clamps? :o
You been here since 2003 Pure,42 posts and the only one thats heard of the new 28fter, what else do you know about it ?
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not any more than what I read on page 27 in C&M, if i had a scanner i would load the article 60ft is no longer the limit
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http://www.jracenstein.com/store/items.asp?Cc=00037&iTpStatus=0&Tp=&Bc=
72' Pole is $3700.00 USD
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not any more than what I read on page 27 in C&M, if i had a scanner i would load the article 60ft is no longer the limit
Thanks, DA services posted the link but my screen resolutions to small to read the fine print and I must have missed the 27ft http://viewer.zmags.com/htmlCat/index.php?mid=wpqfpq&pageid=27
Ionics used to be the only Uk 60fter till modulars came along and as Alex said they are better for working at height than a telescopic, but I guess we will have to see this new Ionics, it will suit employers.
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it will suit employers.
you've hit the nail on the head there Jeff. modulars are to prone to breakages when employing.
If the SL2 was a telescopic it would be problem solved to me, even if you compromise slightly on the weight
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The pole that interests me is the one they are launching for residential window cleaners a 28ft carbon pole.
What do you think of the orange clamps? :o
You been here since 2003 Pure,42 posts and the only one thats heard of the new 28fter, what else do you know about it ?
28 ft reach weight 2.9kg theres nothing else about the pole jeff .
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Ionic’s CEO, Reuben Reynolds said, “J Racenstein is, of course, a very well known window cleaning supplier and we are delighted to have them as our distributor. When it comes to water-fed poles, we understand that the easiest, most productive poles need to be light in weight, rigid in use, and robust. In order to achieve the best possible performance at height, we have only ever used the highest quality carbon fiber components. Due to Ionic’s ongoing commitment to quality in the area of water-fed pole development we are pleased to announce that we shall be launching the world’s first High Modulus Carbon Fiber water-fed poles to reach 72ft. In addition there will be a new 28ft carbon fiber WFP for residential window cleaners and a new compact 65ft Carbon pole made from 6ft sections so that it can be raised and lowered by one operator, and can be more securely stored inside a vehicle. We are expecting these poles to be very popular, and are pleased to be able to offer them to American and Canadian window cleaners through our new distributor.”
The advantages that these new poles will bring to window cleaners are clear. Compared to the cost of a window cleaning contractor owning or hiring a hydraulic platform to reach 72ft, a window cleaner who is able to reach 80ft from the safety of the ground will be more efficient and therefore more competitive. At a time when building owners may be more cost conscious, the ability to quickly and safely reach as high as 72ft will give any business-minded window cleaner an immediate advantage over his competitors.
Window cleaners will be able to purchase these new poles from J. Racenstein following the official product launch in March
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But it is at the moment the longest 'WFP made of Carbon Fibre in telescoping sections', so the type must be 'of composite construction with quick release clamps' all of which the Tucker does not have. It's amazing how you can phrase things.
Despite clever wording, I know I would rather work with it than the Tucker, those things bend. It sounds like it is made of similar High-Modulus carbon the same as the Facelift One that was introduced a while back. The Facelift only goes to 65ft though.
Alex when you going to do a 60ft + tele pole in carbon ? you must be thinking about it, you cracked the modular pole and your winning hands down, time for the tele pole, give us a hint ;D
Interesting thought. We do have the technology in development right now to give us a 10 section telescopic pole. This should be ready by late April, but I still cannot see the benefit of a telescopic pole at these heights. A Super-Lite at these heights is sooooo much lighter. And has the benefit of being able to be easily used at any height below this as well. We do have clients who regularly work at 70ft, in fact in Russia the Super-Lite is sold as a 70ft package.
I do understand that there are those who will never want to work with a Modular pole and for these the new Ionics' 72ft Pole (I think that must be reach so actual will be about 68ft) will be the choice pole.
RWC - :)
Alex right.
99% of the SL2 we sale as 70ft in Russia. Its absolutly normal for our customers.
regards,
Vadim / MoemGorod™
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The finish you will get at 72ft is going to be pretty poor, I cant really see the point?
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One guy, very energetic SalesRep Andrea from Lewi (PuraQleen) asserted me that his customers work with PuraQleen at 98ft in Berlin. It should be the great show. No doubt, I am ready to buy a ticket.
I have funny pictures. When we used Unger Carbontec 1 year ago 3 strong guys could not manage with 31ft pole!!
One of them is general manager of Unger distributing company.
That is why I purchased my first 2 of SL2 from Alex.
Vadim
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strange, we have a carbontec 10 section kit, and I regularly use it using 8 sections which is about 39 foot, and I have no problems with it, suggest either you have it measured wrong 31ft) or you need to eat your wheatabix in the morning. ;D