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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ftp on February 09, 2009, 07:33:37 pm
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This seems to be a common complaint with this job so i was wondering if anyone has tried a simple brace or strap - do they work?
I was talking to my physio this morning and she suggested getting one but some look nothing more than a velcro strap. The pain is out of my elbow and down the forearm now. ???
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I had tennis elbow and had to have the injection which lasted 2 month
The tennis elbow has now come back and i use a strap and i do find it helps a little
but my elbow hurts more when it hasnt been used (ie first thing in morning)
I have also been told to take anti inflamitory medicines such as ibuprofen which does help and i can reccommend the VOLTAROL PAIN-EZE creme its pricy for the amount you get but it does ease the pain a little.
if there are any witch-doctors with a cure id be interested to find out as long as i dont have to have that kniting needle size needle jammed in my elbow joint again ;D
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I had it a while ago and the pain was awful, even at night I'd keep waking up in agony and obviously lack of sleep made things worse.
Went to docs and he told me it lasted 9 months and would go (never heard that before or since) , I'd suffered it about 6 months then so started taking anti-inflamitary tablets to ease things and after 9 months strange as it seems, it totally cleared up and hasn't come back.....yet.
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i had two sessions of acupuncture... £25 each...ten years ago...
it vanished in two days.... and i had it bad ...sometimes i would be given a cup of tea , and drop it all over the floor as the pain whilst lifting the cup , sometimes was unbearable.
now i have a sore right shoulder with my arm going in and out, and up and down all day. ???
cant win.
ps. i was in sales ten years ago...so nothing caused it.
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I used to get it when I used the backflip, I did find that the elasticated support eased it.
Had no problem since switching to WFP.
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Using the poles has strained both my forarms so I have been almost 12 months getting over it. Also agravated old squash injury to my elbow, oh and my backs dodgy too!
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Using the poles has strained both my forarms so I have been almost 12 months getting over it. Also agravated old squash injury to my elbow, oh and my backs dodgy too!
if you where an horse you would have to be put down ;D
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I had tennis elbow a few years ago. Real painfull it was. I used something called dog oil from the health shop. Worked a treat. Never had it since.
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tried all of those
nothing helps still lots of pain
live with it
still less pain than living with the wife
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Ill have a look for some of that dog oil and give it a try
failing that will 15W 40 be any good ;D
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I had 'tennis elbow' for a couple of months and I read somewhere that it can take from 6-9 months to completely heal.
It was so painful I mentioned it when I went for my MOT with my osteopath. 'No problem' he said, 'We'll treat that with acupuncture.'
Within a week I noticed a significant improvement, and within a month it had cleared up.
Whether it was the acupuncture that begun the healing process I don't know but I can't dismiss it.
I still get a little elbow ache and muscle pain in the forearms but it clears fairly quickly after I finish work for the week.
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http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=23248.0 Put this into google
daily mail cider vinegar and honey. Its Taken by explorers ! and works for my shoulder RSI shoulder probs. ;)
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tried all of those
nothing helps still lots of pain
live with it
still less pain than living with the wife
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true words of wisdom
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well ive been to holland and barretts tonight and bought some "dog oil" ill keep you posted
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Don't suppose it's anything" like man oil"? :-X
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all it has in it is petrolium jelly and rape oil......
cant see how it is going to work but i will try anything once.......... apart from Man oil :-X
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When I started WFP I got a lot of pain in my right wrist. I bought a velcro wrist support (just a thermal wrap to put round it secured with a bit of velcro) It worked fine. After a couple of weeks I didn't need it any more.
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Had Tennis elbow 4 years ago, had cortorzone injections 6 times, told that i had 3 more than i should, went to see Doc booked me in for a 20 min Opp no more trouble since
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Had Tennis elbow 4 years ago, had cortorzone injections 6 times, told that i had 3 more than i should, went to see Doc booked me in for a 20 min Opp no more trouble since
how long did u av to av off from work after opp,,,,,,
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Two weeks then back to work but took it steady, gradualy bult up full strenth withing six weeks.
They now do the opp key hole so recovery may be shorter, left a nice 4 inch scar but it was worth it.
If you want to now more about tennis elbow look in google type tennis elbow opps or just tennis elbow
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small course of deca will do the job it has good healing properties in it,
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that was a good topic to look back on jeff, i have been wfp long time now and i have some of my deep neck tissues have been damaged, with on going muscle spasms, and early signs arthritis
sleeping is difficult, finding right position, working is painful confined myself to domestic now, thankful i have two staff.
tried the anti inflammatory for a year not much relief.
best thing i was advised to try is acupuncture, every three weeks now and have taken up palates thought it was a bit girly at first but brings great relief and helps to inculcate better posture which works trys to undo
but i was surprised how in sports or in work- we continually stress muscles one sided with out being in balance with our spines. i think when were young we dont pay much attention just bash it out
learning to simply De-stress the muscles before and after work is useful habit to get into. also seeking help to get better posture whilst working was good advice foe me as its surprising how quickly our bodies can be reeducated, and how we can be reeducated to listen to them as well .
most of the problems we suffer with,either tennis elbow and the sciatica and neck problems all emanate from the same area of the back dependant on our own inherit strengths and weaknesses and window cleaning puts great stress on these areas either traditional or wfp
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I have big probs here. Last August I got a cortosone injection in my left elbow. It was a toss up if it was to left or right. Cortosone sorted my left and the right got better too. About a month ago the left started to go again and got much worse, including stiffness on the outside of the joint. Another injection = no change. I have now changed from right handed pole work to left handed to see If this will help. Too early to say. I was surprised by the guy who had an op (was it Ladder no more?). Tennis elbow is inflammation of the tendons. How do you op? I am also doing more trad, both left and right handed, to try to reduce the repetitive nature of my work. (wagtail flipper is the biz)
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The worst thing for it i've found is cleaning conservatory roofs - i think it's the extra pressure and repetetive action that does it.
I can be cleaning fine for hours then a slight change in the angle of my wrist or arm and i get an incredible shooting pain in the forearm. Once it's there it goes on for weeks. I cant straighten my elbow these days.
Ruined my sex life - i'm going to have to sleep with the wife instead. ::)
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Yep, same here. got tennis elbow in october, never had it before, caused by pole work. Had my first session at physio last week & it's been a lot worse since ???
It's a nightmare but I have found if you relax your right (for right handed people) hand more & don't grip the pole as tight it helps while working. As someone else mentioned, the worst thing is picking a mug of coffee up!!! I cant go left handed either as I have no left front or rear deltiods- snapped nerve & they wasted away. I do however, still have my good looks. ;)
Tony
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I have big probs here. Last August I got a cortosone injection in my left elbow. It was a toss up if it was to left or right. Cortosone sorted my left and the right got better too. About a month ago the left started to go again and got much worse, including stiffness on the outside of the joint. Another injection = no change. I have now changed from right handed pole work to left handed to see If this will help. Too early to say. I was surprised by the guy who had an op (was it Ladder no more?). Tennis elbow is inflammation of the tendons. How do you op? I am also doing more trad, both left and right handed, to try to reduce the repetitive nature of my work. (wagtail flipper is the biz)
When they opperated they moved the tendon off the bone so that it is not rubbing causeing pain I was in agony for 2 years but as i said after 6 injections and a lot of antinflamatery tablets there was only the opp left but you have to ask the Doc about an opperation
Type in Google Tennis elbow opperation and all will be explaned
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I've fortunately had no such problems yet,.. and I hope to avoid them.
In your opinions as sufferers of these conditions, what are the major causes, and what are the best ways of avoiding it?
Is it simply from using heavy poles and repetitive motions?
Could using lightweight poles and switching arms for each job help?
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I've fortunately had no such problems yet,.. and I hope to avoid them.
In your opinions as sufferers of these conditions, what are the major causes, and what are the best ways of avoiding it?
Is it simply from using heavy poles and repetitive motions?
Could using lightweight poles and switching arms for each job help?
In my experance of this problem not rearly, its not just window cleaning that causes the problem, doing diy at home eg useing hammers, screwdrivers, Etc if your going to get it its just one of those things.
Any sport eg Darts, Snooker, Cricket ,etc and the most common Tennis lol.
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i had all the cortorzone injections after i had a opp, they cut the area and now elbow is fine.
newclean :) :) :) :)
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Yep, same here. got tennis elbow in october, never had it before, caused by pole work. Had my first session at physio last week & it's been a lot worse since ???
It's a nightmare but I have found if you relax your right (for right handed people) hand more & don't grip the pole as tight it helps while working. As someone else mentioned, the worst thing is picking a mug of coffee up!!! I cant go left handed either as I have no left front or rear deltiods- snapped nerve & they wasted away. I do however, still have my good looks. ;)
Tony
I've met you, you're lying about your good looks ;D ;D
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Inflamation ? Look at this, its simple and works ;)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1053045/Sir-Ranulph-Fiennes-I-beat-arthritis-vinegar-cure-passed-mother.html
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Do you know it works from personal experience or from reading the article?
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A £4 bottle lasts you quite some time, it tastes like really cheap vino, rinse your mouth afterwards or your teeth will start to decay as the vinegar reacts with the Calcium.
Course I have tried it I dont reccomend anything much including wfp unless I have used it for 6 weeks or so.
I dont need it three times a day, its only a spoonful with water and swallow in one go. if you like vinegar on your chips you will be ok.Remeber the name honey and vinegar or "honeygar" try it for 2 weeks and see.
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Yep, same here. got tennis elbow in october, never had it before, caused by pole work. Had my first session at physio last week & it's been a lot worse since ???
It's a nightmare but I have found if you relax your right (for right handed people) hand more & don't grip the pole as tight it helps while working. As someone else mentioned, the worst thing is picking a mug of coffee up!!! I cant go left handed either as I have no left front or rear deltiods- snapped nerve & they wasted away. I do however, still have my good looks. ;)
Tony
I've met you, you're lying about your good looks ;D ;D
That was a bad day, you should see me now I've had cortozone in my lips!! ;D ;D
Tony
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Yep, same here. got tennis elbow in october, never had it before, caused by pole work. Had my first session at physio last week & it's been a lot worse since ???
It's a nightmare but I have found if you relax your right (for right handed people) hand more & don't grip the pole as tight it helps while working. As someone else mentioned, the worst thing is picking a mug of coffee up!!! I cant go left handed either as I have no left front or rear deltiods- snapped nerve & they wasted away. I do however, still have my good looks. ;)
Tony
I've met you, you're lying about your good looks ;D ;D
That was a bad day, you should see me now I've had cortozone in my lips!! ;D ;D
Tony
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Yep, same here. got tennis elbow in october, never had it before, caused by pole work. Had my first session at physio last week & it's been a lot worse since ???
It's a nightmare but I have found if you relax your right (for right handed people) hand more & don't grip the pole as tight it helps while working. As someone else mentioned, the worst thing is picking a mug of coffee up!!! I cant go left handed either as I have no left front or rear deltiods- snapped nerve & they wasted away. I do however, still have my good looks. ;)
Tony
I've met you, you're lying about your good looks ;D ;D
That was a bad day, you should see me now I've had cortozone in my lips!! ;D ;D
Tony
I can't wait/ I'm scared (delete as appropriate) :o
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A £4 bottle lasts you quite some time, it tastes like really cheap vino, rinse your mouth afterwards or your teeth will start to decay as the vinegar reacts with the Calcium.
Course I have tried it I dont reccomend anything much including wfp unless I have used it for 6 weeks or so.
I dont need it three times a day, its only a spoonful with water and swallow in one go. if you like vinegar on your chips you will be ok.Remeber the name honey and vinegar or "honeygar" try it for 2 weeks and see.
Having a bad day were we? Or had you drunk too much of that cheap vino?