Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: chrisdean on February 09, 2009, 01:17:33 am
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So - Can a portable be used for tile & grout cleaning?
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Yes, there are portables around now that are specifically designed for tile and grout cleaning. They normally have pumps which produce 1200 psi pressure and have auto dump / auto fill capabilities.
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Can anyone suggest machine model/manufacturer?
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do you want to rinse a floor or pressure clean it??
If you're using chems & agitation, you need to rinse it, a 100psi porty will do the job. If you want to blast it from dry, to clean it in one process, then you might need 1000psi plus.
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do you want to rinse a floor or pressure clean it??
If you're using chems & agitation, you need to rinse it, a 100psi porty will do the job. If you want to blast it from dry, to clean it in one process, then you might need 1000psi plus.
Yes - I want to blast it from dry, to clean it in one process!
Are there many portables around that operate at 1000 PSI ?
& also are they adjustable so you can turn down pressure when cleaning carpets?
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Masterforce 1200 follow the link
http://www.worldofclean.co.uk/index.php?categoryID=140
maybe others.
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Masterforce 1200 follow the link
http://www.worldofclean.co.uk/index.php?categoryID=140
maybe others.
Thanks Joe!
Found the 'Mytee M12' http://www.steam-brite.com/store/mytee-tile-grout-extractor-p-4649.html
- Anyone have one?
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I just use a rotary scrubber and a very good wet vac, as you need the cleaner to dwell on the tiles, just using water doesn't work, trust me as my main buisness is stone and tile cleaning.
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Can't be sure, but I think Alltec do something suitable too, or they certainly did when I was there a couple of years ago.
Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
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If you are going to clean internal tiles & grout, you will still need to apply a cleaning solution and or dwell time and aggitation, especially for the grout. Cleaning from dry will probably not give you the desired result even when using high psi.
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I found this site http://www.cleantileandgrout.co.uk/
They appear to be using truckmount system with what looks like a 'Turbo Hybrid Hard-Surface Cleaning Tool'
From the pics it look like they are 'cleaning from dry'
Let me know what you think!
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If you go on You Tube and type in tile and grout you should get more then a few video clips
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Just went on that clean and grout website and read about their business opportunity.
£ 49500 !!! for a turnkey business - that's a lot of bloody hard flooring you need to clean to see a return on your investment. :o
Steve
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Just went on that clean and grout website and read about their business opportunity.
£ 49500 !!! for a turnkey business - that's a lot of bloody hard flooring you need to clean to see a return on your investment. :o
Steve
Yes i agree. Why not just buy the kit and set it up yourself for a lot less money?
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All I can see yjjay is different is that they have added alot of heat with a burner, turbo tools and a TM ot hp porti.
Shaun
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Just found this on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2dDJJSkPlU&feature=related
says in the comments-
"Anything Alkaline (between 7.1 - 11) is safe. High Pressure = 1200 - 1500 psi. and you want to extract the chemical, and water mixture completely or you will have a chalky residue in the grout lines."
So i guess that a 1200PSI porty with inline heater would do the job!
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Chris, the inline heaters will not be able to cope with the amount of water flow coming from the machine, you would need a burner to do the job.
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I can see a problem using a porty , not that it cant be done /isnt been done ,
but at the pressures you are talking about to clean these tiles/ flooring , if indeed a porty will reach a true pressure reading at the tool end .
Y ou are will be constantly filling and empty your tanks , What amount of water is going to be used at a pressure of 1200 psi, quite alot i would have though !!! as the nozzles arnt exatly on the small side.
can any body work out ? ;D
Geoff
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Chris, the inline heaters will not be able to cope with the amount of water flow coming from the machine, you would need a burner to do the job.
What do you mean by a burner?
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Chris,
A kerosene / diesel type burner, these will keep up with the pressures used. You do not need to rely on heat as chemical and agitation will do the job, plus dwell time. There are some tiles that you will not want to use high pressure on as it will cause damage. Your best bet would be to go on a good hard floor cleaning course. Acid type cleaners will etch calcium based tiles etc.
Geoff,
Normally you would connect up to the customers tap, auto fill / auto dump so should not be a problem.
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what about using Rotovac 360 for tile and grout like this site says http://www.worldofclean.co.uk/index.php?productID=577
Quote "The Rotovac 360 does not require a special high pressure portable extractor to clean tile and grout. The Rotovac 360 Tile and Grout head uses a combination of rotary nylon cleaning brush bristles, spray jets and vacuum slots to thoroughly clean tile and grout. The Rotovac 360 works with any portable extractor - from a standard 100 psi portable, to the Scorpion XPS, Masterforce 1200 or the largest truck mount."
I wonder what the results are like.
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Chris
There is a Tile & Grout course being held on 24th March in Leicester.
I am booked on it.
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As a carpet cleaning attachement the Rotovac 360 is getting good reviews.
Not heared of how the tile cleaning attachement is going on.
however You Tube has some clips of Rotovac 360.
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I had a look on youtube and cant find one video of rotovac 360 doing tile and grout ???
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Chris, try this for information.
http://dirtygrout.com/index
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I too cant see a t&g video with the RV360,must have been the other spinner that I had seen.
However, using the right cleaning fluid, agitation, and heat from water, plus the suction, I cant see why the RV360 should not be able to do what it says it will do.
If you notice on the websit eyou showed the link to, the t&g attachement had nylon brushes to do the agitation.
There is a vid on You Tube of a carpet being cleaned in a Chineese or Indian restaurant using the RV360 and it was eating thro it.
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Chris, try this for information.
http://dirtygrout.com/index
Thanks Derek I have just registered at their forum http://www.dirtygrout.com/forums/
There is loads of info on there!
What about the Mytee M12 http://www.mytee.com/products/product.php?id=M-12
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on the dirty grout home page, can someone tell me what the hand held stone cleaner is in the video and whats powering it please?
very impressive
derek
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on the dirty grout home page, can someone tell me what the hand held stone cleaner is in the video and whats powering it please?
very impressive
derek
Derek do you mean one of these?
http://www.worldofclean.co.uk/index.php?productID=603
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http://www.mytee.com/products/product.php?id=8903
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Chris
There is a Tile & Grout course being held on 24th March in Leicester.
I am booked on it.
Joe - Where do i get more info about this course?
OK Found it http://www.worldofclean.co.uk/index.php?productID=608
Tile & Grout Floor Cleaning Workshop.
Venue: Leicester Racecourse
Date and time: 24th March 2009 8:30am-4:30pm
This hands-on-cleaning day will offer an insight in to how to prepare and clean tile & grout flooring. We will be using a variety of different floor cleaning equipment including:
* Low Speed Rotaries with Scrubbing Brushes, Floor Cleaning Pads and the XR Super Scrubpad.
* Oscillating Pad Cleaning Equipment with Tile & Grout Brush and the XR Super Scrubpad.
* The Masterforce 1200 with hard floor wand, Turbo Hybrid Tool and the Cobra Hand Held Tool.
* Truckmount with hard floor wand, Turbo Hybrid Tool and the Cobra Hand Held Tool.
Post cleaning we will be demonstrating the use of nano treatments to help protect the floor and grouting from soiling and staining.
Only £45.00 plus VAT per person, PAYABLE IN ADVANCE.
Lunch and refreshment breaks included.
To book please call the office on Tel: 01208 79450 OR book on line, (no carriage will be applied)
Has anyone been on this course?
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Steve Carpenter who is taking the course is a top guy - knows his stuff and knows the products he will be using.
I went on a spot and stain course last summer from Solutions and he was the one taking the course so have heard him first hand.
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Im booked on the course and have booked into a motel the night before, dont fancy driving from 5.30am then concentrating for a full day.
Anyone want to know details of the motel, normally £59 per night but there is a simple way to get it for under £30 inc vat and continental breakfast.
Stayed at this place when I did the NCCA course. - good pub grub for evening meal as well.
There is also a Commercial carpet cleaning course early April as well.
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They are usually hands on courses, so you will get to use rotaries, high end portables and truckmount !!
Steve Carpenter is top guy, really nows his stuff.
Andrew
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Im booked on the course and have booked into a motel the night before, dont fancy driving from 5.30am then concentrating for a full day.
Anyone want to know details of the motel, normally £59 per night but there is a simple way to get it for under £30 inc vat and continental breakfast.
Stayed at this place when I did the NCCA course. - good pub grub for evening meal as well.
There is also a Commercial carpet cleaning course early April as well.
Joe have you got the details?
£30 is a super deal!
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Heres the link Chris
http://www.innkeeperslodge.com/lodgedetail.asp?lid=71
from this page click on availability
enter the date you want to stay ie 23rd March
it will give you the normal rate (£55) and the discounted rate (£29.31).
Note its because you are booking in advance and the fact once booked there is no refund - so make sure you on the course first.
Its a very nice group of motels - I have stayed in the Leicester one before and also one in Chester le Street. Excellant accomodation - good sized rooms and very clean, and a good breakfast (even if it is continental)