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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Pittmonkey on February 08, 2009, 11:29:43 am

Title: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Pittmonkey on February 08, 2009, 11:29:43 am
Need some quick answers here chaps.

29 windows - 5 French doors - 6 Velux WFP

how much for 4 weekly?
how much for one off?
how much for internal?

Easy access, only round the corner from were I live (North West). 28 day terms.

Front only pic:

Thanks Wayne
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Oakley Windows on February 08, 2009, 11:35:20 am
40 odd
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Rob.Hall on February 08, 2009, 11:53:57 am
£40/45 on 4 wkly
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Mr Formby on February 08, 2009, 11:59:32 am
Have you tried pricing itup on Jasons calculator

http://www.fleetwoodwindowcleaning.co.uk/index-2.html
It works out around £42
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Pittmonkey on February 08, 2009, 12:23:21 pm
£40 -£45 is would that be internal & external?

Here's what I was thinking and appreciate any feedback.

£30 4 weekly
£45 one off external clean
£40 8 weekly internal

I reckon around 30mins on a regular clean bit longer for 1st clean.

This is for a Management Company. need to get it to them by morning.
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: barry80 on February 08, 2009, 12:35:54 pm
£20 each time.
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: mikethechamois on February 08, 2009, 12:49:41 pm
no 40 is about right, plus 40 for the insides

if they want ins and outs done as a first clean do them a deal and say it should have been

80 for a first clean doubled up for inside first clean..............160

but you will do the lot for £ 80 thats 50% discount

and it will be £ 40 every 4 weeks thereafter
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Tosh on February 08, 2009, 02:25:19 pm
£50 but tell them that you'll do it every 8 weeks, rather than the usual 4 that the rest of the local window cleaners do.

I find that if you have a too frequent cleaning interval - especially on more expensive accounts - they'll get sick of seeing you; or rather coughing up £40 every four weeks.

Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: poole bay on February 08, 2009, 03:47:47 pm
god are all you limited, thats a lot for thats 40-50 pound i would charge 15-20 10 mins work bournemouth price
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Tosh on February 08, 2009, 03:50:37 pm
god are all you limited, thats a lot for thats 40-50 pound i would charge 15-20 10 mins work bournemouth price

Ten minutes!  I can spend that chatting to a customer!  Would you really charge £15 for that job?
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: glen parva on February 08, 2009, 04:34:16 pm
god are all you limited, thats a lot for thats 40-50 pound i would charge 15-20 10 mins work bournemouth price

Ten minutes! I can spend that chatting to a customer! Would you really charge £15 for that job?

if he can do it for £15- 20 im better off subbing the work out  ;D

40-45 would be about right  in leicester
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Lee Pryor on February 08, 2009, 04:53:31 pm
£15!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what the hell do you charge for a 3 bed semi £2.50???

We would be £40.00 x 6 weekly

We charge inside price at 1.5x the outside = £60.00 so in and out would be £100.00.

Gutters would be £90.00
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: wizclean on February 08, 2009, 05:03:30 pm
30 to 35 for me should take no longer than 30mins total less after the first couple of cleans ,
work out what you want an hour and add a little on top because nothing ever goes to plan.
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Pittmonkey on February 08, 2009, 05:15:41 pm
Ok Guy's the quote has been Faxed off so here's what I went with.

4 Weekly £30
8 Weekly £40
8 Weekly Internal £40

Thanks for all the input. I appreciate there will always be a difference in pricing due to area's and people's own choice on what their own preferred hourly rate should be.

Some interesting replies as always. Not sure if I'm still a little on the slow side with WFP but 10 mins on this external seems a little quick. I usually take 10 -15 mins on a 3- 4 bed semi. So estimated at my usual speed (Old Mans Speed) :) around 30 mins on a regular clean.

The bonus to this work is there are 4 other properties on this plot now occupied, so maybe some rich pickings if all goes well. Dropped a leaflet through the doors but 95% of my work comes from recommendations or through being noticed out and about, so fingers crossed.

Thanks again

Wayne
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Mr Formby on February 08, 2009, 05:22:15 pm
I think you have gone a bit low on your price.
How many window cleaners in your area could clean the windows in the roof, for those you should be charging more
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Pittmonkey on February 08, 2009, 05:32:10 pm
I understand your point but there are now plenty of WFP WC around in this area.

I've tried to keep a balance between being competitive, keeping on track with what I need to earn. I'm comfortable with the price I've given. I took on board everyone's advice before making my final decision.

The thing is if I get the work I'll be thinking I should have charged more, if I dont, then I'll think I was too expensive. It really is a learning curve and after 18 mths I'm still learning.

Pretty much at the stage where I could start to inflate my price a bit and not feel disapointed if I don't get it.

Wayne
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Mr Formby on February 08, 2009, 05:36:39 pm
The thing with forums is you have window cleaners from all areas . Each area can charge a different price for the same size house.
If you are happy with what you have priced it at thats all that matters. You could try and price work at southern prices and not get any . Its knowing what you need to earn per hour and charge accordingly.
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: poole bay on February 08, 2009, 07:39:10 pm
so you guy charge 2-3 pound per window what is there 17 on that house but in bournemouth your looking to clean gutters and soffitts about 150 -200 pound on that house..
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Oakley Windows on February 08, 2009, 07:42:49 pm
No, as I read it, theres 29 windows + the velux + the french doors.
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Mr Formby on February 08, 2009, 07:52:49 pm
Quote
29 windows - 5 French doors - 6 Velux WFP
Or did I read it wrong
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Pittmonkey on February 08, 2009, 08:47:29 pm
This is the problem I have with the online calculator or having a set price for each window:

e.g (average prices taken from online calculators)

6 x Velux @ £2 = £12
12 x Ground Floor @ £1 = £12
13 x 1st Floor @ £1.50 = £19.50       
4 x 2nd Floor @ £2.00 = £8.00           (3 x front 1 x side)
5 x French Doors @ £2.00 = £10       

Total £61.50

Doubt I would get the job at this price.

I normally price on how long it would take to clean, if I'm cleaning other properties near by and how regular the cleans are etc:

There's a large degree of common sense when quoting any kind of job and like I said it's an art form in it's self into getting it right.

The post was interesting and has always, thrown up a wide divide in opinions. I probably used it to consolidate the price I had in mind originally, but always willing to learn.

Thanks again
Wayne
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: poole bay on February 08, 2009, 10:19:00 pm
14 windows and 3 doors lol next your be counting each paine of glass lol
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Pittmonkey on February 08, 2009, 10:39:21 pm
Carl, There is a side and a back to this house m8 ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Mr Formby on February 08, 2009, 10:44:05 pm
Wayne
Which calculator did you use. I got it to £42
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: Pittmonkey on February 08, 2009, 10:56:11 pm
Yep!!! Jasons came to £42 but I've seen a few on the www with the calculator on and again there' a big differance in pricing. So just took an average.

Jason's calculator/prices do seem to be the more realistic for the North West area but I still took into account all the other aspects, time on the job, distance and the prospects of working on the site and gaining more work.

Wayne
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: rscleaningservices on February 08, 2009, 11:17:38 pm
I gotta say that carl foster must be working his little bollox off for peanuts the prices he charges, are you making much money mr foster !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im looking at the whole house if the back is like the front and a few windows to the side should be around £55-£60 outs and the same for inside as you spend time mopping up and maybe moving stuff off window cills. And to do guttering which i rarely do but i think its normally about £15 to font and same to back on a terraced house.
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: ronnie paton on February 08, 2009, 11:25:52 pm
carl your good cleaning 40 windows in 10min which works out at 20sec a window with moving and setting up.

the questions is do you believe you can do it that quick
Title: Re: Suggestions for pricing job
Post by: poole bay on February 09, 2009, 06:27:42 pm
sorry did not no there was more sides, if they have been cleaned with the pole twice then 20 secs a window yeah no problem should clear fine but.... all depends on the windows some windows need loads of rinses