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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: slrobo on February 03, 2009, 05:21:14 pm
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Hi guys,
I am in need of some help please.
I have recently invested in a wfp system 650 litre 2 man opperational equipment.
I am just in the process of going around to 7 hotel to provide quotes for the window cleaning.
Trouble is I have been cleaning carpets for the last 10 years and it seems to me that the earning potential with the windows is less than the carpets.
I know that everyone has an amount that they are happy to earn in a day, but is there a rough guide as to how much a commercial window cleaner should be charging for a days work.
Most of the work is in and around Surrey.
Please some helpful advice would be good. Thank you
PS I am looking for an ifor williams trailer to switch from my van- does anyone know of one. bv84 if possible
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Didn't you do any research before investing? You obviously know how much you want to earn per day so go in with your price. If you can't get any work then your too high most likely. I have picked up some commercial work by being substantially cheaper than other quotes - maybe because i'm too cheap but it's at a price i'm happy with. I've also quoted and never heard another word.
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you get what you can from commercial jobs one day you could earn 150 the next you could earn more or less depending on logistics,pricing etc
for example I have a residential complex for the elderley the jobs worth £120 if I had to do this job by myself I wouldn,t want to be doing anything else that day,due to not having nothing else close by and secondly I would be cream crackered
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thanks for your input, not much help though.
before investing i already had quite a few clients who wanted to use me as i clean their offices but i was just wondering what other guys charge.
If it is wrong of me to ask that then just say. dont beat around the bush...
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Put in a price that you are happy with. If you are happy with £100 a day then thats what you need to base your prices on.
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thanks for your input, not much help though.
before investing i already had quite a few clients who wanted to use me as i clean their offices but i was just wondering what other guys charge.
If it is wrong of me to ask that then just say. dont beat around the bush...
the reason your not getting much reply is cause only you know the answer charge what you want to earn work out how long it will take and times by hourly rate. it takes time to get your pricing right.
can i ask how can a comany want to use you to clean windows with no exerience?
they could get rid of there old window cleaner and get a worse end product
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Stay online, give it an hour or so & you'll be up 600 quid a day ;)
Tony
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well ronnie they know me...end of. when people trust you they are happy to use you, even if it is a new service you are providing.
has everybody on here got the hump?...
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slrobo, Seems like you have the hump! ;D . As people on here have said it all depends on what you want to earn. Why does that sound like we all have the hump? People have given their advice , what more do you want?
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I am simply asking what FIGURE other people are charging...
What is the going rate...
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How much does yr window cleaner charge you at home??
Work out your price from this and put a little bit on top
This should make you competitive,if u not happy with this figure tweek it the nxt time you quote a job its basically all down to experience and we,ve all gone in high and low ;)
ps, while you are interogating us please tell us all how to price commercial carpet cleaning up as were all going to be getting into that when we get the next artic blast ;)
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How much does yr window cleaner charge you at home??
Work out your price from this and put a little bit on top
This should make you competitive,if u not happy with this figure tweek it the nxt time you quote a job its basically all down to experience and we,ve all gone in high and low ;)
ps, while you are interogating us please tell us all how to price commercial carpet cleaning up as were all going to be getting into that when we get the next artic blast ;)
Come on slobo how much to price commercial carpet cleaning :-*
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Sirobo
I think that you may be asking too broad a question.
I am based near to Alton Towers - Staffordshire and have been fortunate to have had a reasonable amount of success in both window cleaning and commercial cleaning (external - hard cleaning) and this is ongoing.
I have had contract work - window cleaning that has paid me more than I could have earned in a month (in my previous job), for one days work. I would see this as very much not the norm.
I also had McDonalds on three weekly cleans @ £18.00 per clean. I had pubs between £20.00 to £40.00, nursing homes between £40.00 and £60.00 but I had lots and lots and lots plus lots and lots of domestics on a very tight round.
How did I price, I tried to find out what they were charging, I would ask them outright!!!. I would try and work out how long it would take me to clean at my domestic hourly rate.
I would then charge an hourly rate plus travelling and or adding £10.00, £20.00, 30.00 to the price.
When you have a full work schedule it is easier to charge what you want because if you don't get it it doesnt affect you.
It isn't as easy as to ask for a price because the variables are many and you may have more need than me to get the job so you will price it cheaply to get it.
I have had 9 years of pricing and can gauge quite quickly how long it will take and what I shouuld be charging but I can still get it wrong.
Rob ;D
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AH at last, someone with a helpful asnwer. thank you very much.
Cheers
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Sirobo
Where are you based
Rob ;D
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Berkshire.
may I ask why?
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You are not a direct threat to me. I am currently building another window cleaning business, local to me and would not like to offer immediate competition a helping hand. You are far enough away to offer help.
I am a strong believer in networking and forming working relationships around the country. I can see their being mutual benefits to assisting others.
We offer many services that others in the window cleaning, carpet cleaning and general cleaning do not but they have a customer base that might be interested in our services. I help you - you help me we both benefit.
I also have a Ninja and a CFR perfect heat 500 in the back of our unit that will be marketed in the near future and I mmay need advice and help in the future.
Rob ;D
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You bought a system, and you dont even know how to price jobs!!!!
Hotels have asked you to quote, I smell some bull here, bet you told them you were expanding into window cleaning, and know theyve already got a W/C service. Am I right?
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Lots of places nowadays will tell you what they want to pay then its upto you if you want the work. I looked at a shop the other day they wanted 3 cleans a week outside plus inside and all signs once a week for £ 15.00 I was very happy to walk away but someone will do it that is a certainty.
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How much does a carpet cleaner earn a day?
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Boy...how much to charge? How long's a piece of string?
If you were a window cleaner with a few years experience then I would suggest you would could expect to earn considerably in access of £200 per day, there are some that are doing £200 plus on residential work...but it takes years to build and hone a round to that kind of level.
It is no use thinking, "Oh, I want £250 a day, this job will take me all day, so I'll charge £250."
As a window cleaning newbie it may well take you all day, but to someone with years of experience, such as myself it might only take two or three hours, your price would then appear well over the top.
If you are WFP then an average size window should only take you about 30 seconds, and that should be to a good standard too.
The trouble with WFP is that any newbie could flash the brush over the glass and claim he can clean a window in 30 seconds!!
With commercial work there is also the type of work to consider.
Small medium and large, the larger the job the less pro-rata per hour you would earn, though that would still equate to very good day rates.
If this guy knows and trusts you, perhaps he would tell you how much he has paid in the past and you can work it out from there, at least on one job!
You could then get a feel for what is being charged, but of course how much you earn then depends on how long it takes you to do the work.
Ian
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Im having similar problems i have been cleaning windows for over ten years, dad used to price up for us but he has since retired , now i price everything but 99 % is residential,
tried advertising for commercial last year with bt but a waste of money then all of the sudden i get a phone call asking to do 15 large properties for one company [ one of my existing customers friends].
I know people charge more for commercial and i know some people charge a bl...y fortune so hence my problem, i dont need the work but potentially there is more i can get from it, so whats is it done too i know what i can earn daily but thats the same we all have crap work and good work so all i can say is price it as good work and hope you get it.
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i asked a simle question, i mean its like my post man saying im getting into joinery never done it but hes giving it a go, so i say ok you can fit my kitchen cause you are a good post man ???
pricing is difficult and its trail and error, i would also concentrate on getting use to the syayem and doing a quality job
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i asked a simle question, i mean its like my post man saying im getting into joinery never done it but hes giving it a go, so i say ok you can fit my kitchen cause you are a good post man ???
pricing is difficult and its trail and error, i would also concentrate on getting use to the syayem and doing a quality job
Some good answers , helpful to us all,
but i do agree with you Ronnie,
it does come across as, hey just answer my question ok???
I think the guys have answered a very open ended question brilliantly.
There aint nothing they cant do !! ;D ;D
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Slrobo
you should be looking at charging out at approx £250.00 a day for commercial work. If you are good and fast you can get £200.00 a day subbing with your own van.
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So double that for the pair of you.
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Stay online, give it an hour or so & you'll be up 600 quid a day ;)
Tony
yeah aren't you all on this?? Pull ya fingers out boys!
slrobo this is minimal take home..
;)
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seems slrobo has got the hump now ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Slrobo
you should be looking at charging out at approx £250.00 a day for commercial work. If you are good and fast you can get £200.00 a day subbing with your own van.
Iwould be thinking similar to this but allow some room for movement, if you can get more get it and if you cant then take less.
Good luck, theres not a lot to it really, I would be interested in the carpet cleaning question regarding price as well.