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Title: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Rogue Trader on January 24, 2009, 07:59:56 pm
i recieved one of these today and i have got to say it is the best brush i have ever used bar none. (i have tried a load of brushes) up to now i have been using the non flocked version which was good but this new one has all the bristles you would want and cuts through everything - dogs muddy paw prints on doors, dried on plant matter (that usually needs scraping) and it literally glides over leads , thank you Mr and Mrs Gardiner you have made me very happy with this perfect brush ....... ps im not on commision ;D 8)
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: NWH on January 24, 2009, 08:02:45 pm
You should be saying thankyou to me really lol. ;D
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Rogue Trader on January 24, 2009, 08:03:59 pm
Thank you NWH ;D
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Dean Taberner on January 24, 2009, 08:16:03 pm
Hi,

Have you got a link to this brush?

Thanks mate,

Dean
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Rogue Trader on January 24, 2009, 08:26:14 pm
on the gardiner web site .... buy one you wont be disappointed believe me!!
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: jaykie on January 24, 2009, 10:05:10 pm
Ill be getting one soon, the main reason i use the dual is because i now like rinsing on the glass.
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: trevor perry on January 25, 2009, 09:35:12 am
i always said the flocked version would be a lot better than the mono fillament, it is deffimately the best brush available bar non.
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 25, 2009, 09:43:37 am
You should be saying thankyou to me really lol. ;D

To be fair to NWH, it was his constant nagging that led us to bring out a flocked version of the Super-Lite.  Without his incessant whining and whinging we wouldn't have bothered  :P.  I still prefer the mono-filament dual trim but a lot of my subcontractors reckon the flocked is their all time favourite.
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: elite mike on January 25, 2009, 09:44:33 am
i always said the flocked version would be a lot better than the mono fillament, it is deffimately the best brush available bar non.

hi trevor

is the brush any good for rinsing on
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: STEVE-UK on January 25, 2009, 10:03:53 am
ive had mine for a while and will be ordering a couple more soon,best brush IMO,
the non flocked is good but doesnt seem to have as much scrubbing power but does cut in to the corners butter

also when you bring out a longer version i will have a couple of those also  ;)
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: trevor perry on January 25, 2009, 10:47:58 am
i always said the flocked version would be a lot better than the mono fillament, it is deffimately the best brush available bar non.

hi trevor

is the brush any good for rinsing on

 i find it really good for rinsing on the only job it struggled on was a one of clean that hadnt been done for five years and was full of cobwebs and i think any brush woud of got clogged in these circumstances so would of needed rinsing brush off.
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: trevor perry on January 25, 2009, 10:49:53 am
You should be saying thankyou to me really lol. ;D

To be fair to NWH, it was his constant nagging that led us to bring out a flocked version of the Super-Lite.  Without his incessant whining and whinging we wouldn't have bothered  :P.  I still prefer the mono-filament dual trim but a lot of my subcontractors reckon the flocked is their all time favourite.

 i think you will find i did my share of whinning and whinging too i did the same about the price but you havnt acted on that yet ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 25, 2009, 11:32:59 am
You should be saying thankyou to me really lol. ;D

To be fair to NWH, it was his constant nagging that led us to bring out a flocked version of the Super-Lite.  Without his incessant whining and whinging we wouldn't have bothered  :P.  I still prefer the mono-filament dual trim but a lot of my subcontractors reckon the flocked is their all time favourite.

 i think you will find i did my share of whinning and whinging too i did the same about the price but you havnt acted on that yet ;D ;D

Yes you're right, I should put it up as it's become so popular  ;D
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Kevin R on January 25, 2009, 12:50:55 pm
Now Alex is selling so many - maybe they will get cheaper?
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: davids3511 on January 25, 2009, 01:00:26 pm
I have a superlight mono dual trim and I think it is the best brush I have ever used.

However, it is only two weeks old and bristles are already falling out. Also, the jets are two different sizes. Is that normal? I think one is a 2mm and the other is a 1.5mm. Not certain on the sizes but they are certainly different.
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 25, 2009, 01:07:26 pm
I have a superlight mono dual trim and I think it is the best brush I have ever used.

However, it is only two weeks old and bristles are already falling out. Also, the jets are two different sizes. Is that normal? I think one is a 2mm and the other is a 1.5mm. Not certain on the sizes but they are certainly different.

Sounds bizarre!  Can you email me your actual name so that I can look your records up on Monday and sort this out?  We don't actually do a 1.5mm jet so I'm quite puzzled.
Now Alex is selling so many - maybe they will get cheaper?

Maybe they will............. maybe they will get lighter as well.
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: trevor perry on January 25, 2009, 01:12:25 pm
Now Alex is selling so many - maybe they will get cheaper?
 i dont think they will and in all honesty if a product is selling well and there is a demand for it then it is good business to get a high price for the goods, if i thought they where a total rip of i wouldnt buy them but they are priced at a level in line with other wfp brushes and although expensive they are a really good product.
  the only time prices come down is when a product gets coppied we have seen this with wfp systems now they are a fraction of what they cost years ago.
  
  besides if alex starts lowering his prices he will ruin his reputation of being a tight arse, rumour has it that he squeeks when he walks  and mrs G has to lubricate him regularly with their PTFE spray to stop him seizing up totally.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: East coast window cleaning Services on January 25, 2009, 01:12:38 pm
The flocked superlight is the best brush ive used by a countrymile.

The only moan i would have is come on alex bring a bigger version out so i dont have to stick that monster vikan on the end of me pole when i need a bigger brush.
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: davids3511 on January 25, 2009, 01:26:25 pm

Sounds bizarre!  Can you email me your actual name so that I can look your records up on Monday and sort this out?  We don't actually do a 1.5mm jet so I'm quite puzzled


Hi Alex

I am not certain on the sizes but you can tell when you turn the brush to point skywards. One jet pushed the water up to about 3 foot while the other is only about 1.5 foot. When I saw that I looked down the jet and could see it was a different diameter. I didn't notice it myself, it was a guy working with me for a few days that actually pointed it out. It's not that big a deal, I am more concerned with the bristles falling out.

Will email you the details.
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Gordon_Taylor on January 25, 2009, 02:10:14 pm
Hi there,

I know this has probbly been asked before but could some one tell me what the difference between these three brushes is as I thought that the mono filiment was the one to rinse on the glass with and the flocked you had to rinse off with :-\

Manythanks

Gordon
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Oakley Windows on January 25, 2009, 03:27:45 pm
I have a superlight mono dual trim and I think it is the best brush I have ever used.

However, it is only two weeks old and bristles are already falling out. Also, the jets are two different sizes. Is that normal? I think one is a 2mm and the other is a 1.5mm. Not certain on the sizes but they are certainly different.

Sounds bizarre!  Can you email me your actual name so that I can look your records up on Monday and sort this out?  We don't actually do a 1.5mm jet so I'm quite puzzled.
Now Alex is selling so many - maybe they will get cheaper?

Maybe they will............. maybe they will get lighter as well.

I have also found that Alex, with the 24' xtel I got about 2 months ago, I also got a mono s/l brushead, you fitted fans in it. Im not worried about it to be honest, but the 2 fans of water produced are definately not the same; although the 2 fans are both the same colour (which I assume means they are both the same bore).
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 25, 2009, 04:04:04 pm
Hi there,

I know this has probbly been asked before but could some one tell me what the difference between these three brushes is as I thought that the mono filiment was the one to rinse on the glass with and the flocked you had to rinse off with :-\

Manythanks

Gordon

Mono-Filament Dual-Trim are the best brushes for rinsing with bristles on the glass and if you put in a little extra pressure will scrub harder than the flocked.

Flocked Dual-Trim scrubs the glass the most easily with the least pressure and will do so most quickly. When under pressure though will not scrub quite as hard as the mono-filaments.

Mono-filament Single-Trim are good for rinsing bristles on the glass and given the right pressure will scrub the glass most efficiently of all three brushes. Will work the glass slightly slower than the dual-trim version.

All three brushes are great to use and it can be difficult deciding between them all at times. I am going to make the decision even harder soon by bringing out another variant  ;D


Sounds bizarre!  Can you email me your actual name so that I can look your records up on Monday and sort this out?  We don't actually do a 1.5mm jet so I'm quite puzzled


Hi Alex

I am not certain on the sizes but you can tell when you turn the brush to point skywards. One jet pushed the water up to about 3 foot while the other is only about 1.5 foot. When I saw that I looked down the jet and could see it was a different diameter. I didn't notice it myself, it was a guy working with me for a few days that actually pointed it out. It's not that big a deal, I am more concerned with the bristles falling out.

Will email you the details.

I have got your email. I will sort this for you.

I have a superlight mono dual trim and I think it is the best brush I have ever used.

However, it is only two weeks old and bristles are already falling out. Also, the jets are two different sizes. Is that normal? I think one is a 2mm and the other is a 1.5mm. Not certain on the sizes but they are certainly different.

Sounds bizarre!  Can you email me your actual name so that I can look your records up on Monday and sort this out?  We don't actually do a 1.5mm jet so I'm quite puzzled.
Now Alex is selling so many - maybe they will get cheaper?

Maybe they will............. maybe they will get lighter as well.

I have also found that Alex, with the 24' xtel I got about 2 months ago, I also got a mono s/l brushead, you fitted fans in it. Im not worried about it to be honest, but the 2 fans of water produced are definately not the same; although the 2 fans are both the same colour (which I assume means they are both the same bore).

As they are the same colour they should be the same  ??? The first possibility is that there is a bit of muck inside the barb on one of the jets. This often happens on my standard jets and I have to remove the jet hose to flush it out. With the deeper barb on the back of the fan-jet you might not notice it up there. The second possibility is that one of the fans has turned slightly meaning that the bristles are getting in the way of the fan.
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: NWH on January 25, 2009, 05:08:57 pm
Flocked superlite is the best flocked brush you`ll ever buy IMO. ;)
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Oakley Windows on January 25, 2009, 06:05:22 pm
Hi there,

I know this has probbly been asked before but could some one tell me what the difference between these three brushes is as I thought that the mono filiment was the one to rinse on the glass with and the flocked you had to rinse off with :-\

Manythanks

Gordon

Mono-Filament Dual-Trim are the best brushes for rinsing with bristles on the glass and if you put in a little extra pressure will scrub harder than the flocked.

Flocked Dual-Trim scrubs the glass the most easily with the least pressure and will do so most quickly. When under pressure though will not scrub quite as hard as the mono-filaments.

Mono-filament Single-Trim are good for rinsing bristles on the glass and given the right pressure will scrub the glass most efficiently of all three brushes. Will work the glass slightly slower than the dual-trim version.

All three brushes are great to use and it can be difficult deciding between them all at times. I am going to make the decision even harder soon by bringing out another variant  ;D


Sounds bizarre!  Can you email me your actual name so that I can look your records up on Monday and sort this out?  We don't actually do a 1.5mm jet so I'm quite puzzled


Hi Alex

I am not certain on the sizes but you can tell when you turn the brush to point skywards. One jet pushed the water up to about 3 foot while the other is only about 1.5 foot. When I saw that I looked down the jet and could see it was a different diameter. I didn't notice it myself, it was a guy working with me for a few days that actually pointed it out. It's not that big a deal, I am more concerned with the bristles falling out.

Will email you the details.

I have got your email. I will sort this for you.

I have a superlight mono dual trim and I think it is the best brush I have ever used.

However, it is only two weeks old and bristles are already falling out. Also, the jets are two different sizes. Is that normal? I think one is a 2mm and the other is a 1.5mm. Not certain on the sizes but they are certainly different.

Sounds bizarre!  Can you email me your actual name so that I can look your records up on Monday and sort this out?  We don't actually do a 1.5mm jet so I'm quite puzzled.
Now Alex is selling so many - maybe they will get cheaper?

Maybe they will............. maybe they will get lighter as well.

I have also found that Alex, with the 24' xtel I got about 2 months ago, I also got a mono s/l brushead, you fitted fans in it. Im not worried about it to be honest, but the 2 fans of water produced are definately not the same; although the 2 fans are both the same colour (which I assume means they are both the same bore).

As they are the same colour they should be the same  ??? The first possibility is that there is a bit of muck inside the barb on one of the jets. This often happens on my standard jets and I have to remove the jet hose to flush it out. With the deeper barb on the back of the fan-jet you might not notice it up there. The second possibility is that one of the fans has turned slightly meaning that the bristles are getting in the way of the fan.

Its always been like it Alex,  Im not worried, Ive got enough of those bloomin' fan jets at home here now ::) one day I'll swap them about so theyre even spread from both nozzles.
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Rogue Trader on January 25, 2009, 06:32:04 pm
This thread was to champion the flocked brush not general tit for tat for the odd blocked jet , my point is to all new wfp users or those that have not yet invested in the supalite range DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY on any other brushes (like i have) all you need is a flocked brush for short poles and a mono brush for long poles - brushes sorted - job done ;)
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: NWH on January 25, 2009, 06:53:47 pm
This thread was to champion the flocked brush not general tit for tat for the odd blocked jet , my point is to all new wfp users or those that have not yet invested in the supalite range DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY on any other brushes (like i have) all you need is a flocked brush for short poles and a mono brush for long poles - brushes sorted - job done ;)
Correct a mono for all the high stuff and rinsing on the glass,i use the flocked for bottoms first cleans and some lead work.
Title: Re: Gardiners flocked brush
Post by: Gordon_Taylor on January 25, 2009, 09:44:42 pm


Mono-Filament Dual-Trim are the best brushes for rinsing with bristles on the glass and if you put in a little extra pressure will scrub harder than the flocked.

Flocked Dual-Trim scrubs the glass the most easily with the least pressure and will do so most quickly. When under pressure though will not scrub quite as hard as the mono-filaments.

Mono-filament Single-Trim are good for rinsing bristles on the glass and given the right pressure will scrub the glass most efficiently of all three brushes. Will work the glass slightly slower than the dual-trim version.

All three brushes are great to use and it can be difficult deciding between them all at times. I am going to make the decision even harder soon by bringing out another variant

Thanks Alex, so they can rinse with the bristles on but have a different scrubing power.

Gordon