Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Ryan Smyth on January 20, 2009, 07:27:42 pm
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Does anyone here use Joes systems i know this has probably been asked a million times before,but humour me ;D I was thinking of getting the piranha marketing pack (ELF) its all cds though i thought it maybe would have been templates for letters etc.Has anyone bought this and is it worth it.How much is fasttrack?
Ryan
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i heard fasttrack was around 6k a year,
did i hear right?
derek
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I thought it was four, but if they think someone might be a handful they put the price up Derek.
Ryan,
There's tons of generic stuff FREE on the internet. Just put them into action.
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It was about £3000, I think.
Put a request for Joe Polish cd's in the machinery for sale section, chances are you'll pick some up much cheaper.
You will find that much of his stuff has been discussed on here over the years, might be worth doing a search.
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ive got joe polish's book, a neighbour of a clean i was doing was an ex cc and he got chatting with me, gave me the book allthough he did say he wanted it back, that was 4 months ago, can't say ive read it yet, read a bit and got bored. sorry guys, its not for me. but i'm not knocking it, sure it works with the right person behind it.
derek
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thers a few guys on here have been doing it for years :o :o :o FT that is ask mr ashmore :-X
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Ryan
Theres plenty on the net nowadays to help you with some marketing mate.
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Cheers lads,it was just the old laziness kicking in again,although obviously joe and fastrack are useless unless they are implemented.Ah well off to do some leafletting looking forward to that its f**king baltic outside :( :(
Ryan
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Ryan
Just do the basic stuff mate and it will start to come in :)
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Went to Eco Day yesterday
Success Coach is on Special Offer this year.
As has been said before allthough it is about Marketing there is a lot of Skill Training included
Which then equips you for every eventuality
So if you can afford £150 a month and need to learn about leather, Hard Floor Cleaning. Colour Restoration Commercial Carpet Cleaning plus much more in addition to Marketing and being with a Group of like minded individuals who you can network and talk with on a regular basis it might be for you
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Any more info on that Ian?
Ryan
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Ian,
150 a month is only 1,800 is that not full FT programme? which I thought was now 6k
Also do people just do FT one year then thats it, only if theres some of the old FT guys that been there seen it done it would be good to talk with, or would they all be 'newbies'
Like the idea of learning about hardflorrs etc.
Craig
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Ian,
150 a month is only 1,800 is that not full FT programme? which I thought was now 6k
Also do people just do FT one year then thats it, only if theres some of the old FT guys that been there seen it done it would be good to talk with, or would they all be 'newbies'
Like the idea of learning about hardflorrs etc.
Craig
Sorry for my ignorance, FT, is that Fast Track and does it involve Joe Polish and Alltec.
Have not come across this.
Jim G
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Craig
Its now called Success Coach
You can do all the Alltec academey Schools as many as you like send your tec repeat if you want to re learn etc
Plus Newsletter,Phone Ins and Marketing Training Audits etc etc etc
You do have topay £250 for Eco Web Site Set up
All plus VAt
If you want Anthea and a one to one with robert and Paul its £300 a month with £500 set up fee
or you can have EcoSite £250 plus 6 Training units News Letters phone ins etc
But bassicaly what was the Old Fastrrack is now £150 and looks like with hard floors etc many more skill courses than when it first came out.
If you did most of the Skills courses and forgot about the marketing you would bean all round top tradesperson.
Every time I have been there has been a young cleaner who has gone from zero to Mr H turnover in less than a year and Mr As in two years.
However there are loads who donot do the marketing or not believethey can get the prices.
This is why I amsaying this year the value is in the skills training and the marketing is an added bonus.
Not an advert just the way I see it.
Yes it is Alltec with Joe Polish but not so upfront and other ideas aswell.
After the first year youmove to level two the origionalidea wasto build a income outside carpet cleaning and retire in 10years but not sure about this as property and stockmarket has crashed
But If you are interested give Robert a ring
Must repeat I am only repeating what I saw on Thursday did not sign I have no connection with Alltec
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Ian
Do you know whether they say you must have a TM or do they have people with Portys doing the same thing (FT wise I mean)?
Thanks
Mike
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Mike
I could join with my Rug Doctor ;D ;D That is atouch of humour i would soon have my arms twisted if that was alli had.
You do not need a truckmount but when you progress you will want to buy one
The Theory is get more people on right track and they will then be able to sell more equipment etc
No Money back deal but you can get out as long as you stay three months
This is first year they have ever helped to drive sales actively
Ideas in pipe line but not sorted yet
ie EcoNetwork National Conteracts etc but needs Nationwide Coverage personally I think that isa little way away
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The format of the FT has altered over the years, which is not surprising as much of it is based on members feedback and experiences using various marketing techniques and is constantly being fine tuned.To give anyone thats interested an idea of what the Alltec Fast Track can do for CCs.
After more than 20 years in this business, I did the FT. Now I already had a thriving repeat and referral business, but there were certain things I had become confused about. One such thing was how to significantly raise my prices without losing a lot of my regular customers. I wont go into detail, I will just say that through the FT and initially using just a few of its strategies,less than two years later I had almost doubled my turnover and profit.
During the time with the FT I became friends with another member Colin Bright, who occasionally posts on here. He would tell you himself I am sure, but Colin didnt even have a machine when he started the course, and hence no customers iether. That was 8 years ago and he has said on more than one occasion that but for Ft he would be the same as many other cheap CCs in his area, rushing around doing loads of jobs, but getting absolutely nowhere. As it is he is one of the most expensive CCs in the North West if not the UK. Because of this he gets sniped at (rarely directly) by envious CCs who cannot understand how he gets such high prices. Fortunately he finds their interest highly amusing and presses on regardless. He admiitedly had a poor December for him, but while some are quiet now, he is on course for the best January since he started.
Do you think the £4,000 we each paid for our Fast Track was worth the money, Lets put it this way thats less than an average months takings and a lot less than than what I paid for a one off failed Yellow Pages ad last year.
Dave.
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Great information guys.
I guess what puts a lot of people off is not so much the money, but the comitment and scrutiny that comes with it. Yet, this may be the key piece to the whole system.
Mike
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Ian Im not really interested in eco or Athena,
these aside are you saying success coach is 150 a month can get out after 2 if you wish?
thats a good value!
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David
Do you still do all the f track stuff ???
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Went to Eco Day yesterday
Success Coach is on Special Offer this year.
As has been said before allthough it is about Marketing there is a lot of Skill Training included
Which then equips you for every eventuality
So if you can afford £150 a month and need to learn about leather, Hard Floor Cleaning. Colour Restoration Commercial Carpet Cleaning plus much more in addition to Marketing and being with a Group of like minded individuals who you can network and talk with on a regular basis it might be for you
sound like the ccdo with the extra cost ;) ;) :D :D
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Difference being James, that the ECO course is from the Alltec organisation and the ccdo is organised by carpet cleaners, but has Trade involvement.
In theory the latter should continue to be useful and helpful to people at all levels in c/c'ing.
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Craig you can get out after three months but as said no refund
I do not know if you can get out of Eco Web Site and the £250 set up fee.
I think Alltec have commited themselves to it so need to get money back .
From what I heard if there was flexiability on Web Site I think a lot more would give it a go It was what kept my card in my wallet,
Craig as I suggested to you before if you formed a joint identy You Your Dad Your girlfriend mum etc could all get trained for one fee, and fill in all the blanks
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Seriously considering it. Mind if I give you a call next week to chat about it Ian, otherwise will get a bit long winded going into detail here, also have learned something you might be interested to hear.
Why was you up at 1.55am! Are you one of those dont sleep much.
Craig
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Time we had a chat again by all means ring
I had just got in from a party somtimes coming on here sends me to sleep ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Clinton,
No, I only ever used the bits of it that I felt I needed, and I still use those bits, after all its not as though I was a new start up when I did it. To have gone into it more, would have meant changing just about everything that I had been doing for over 20 years, and I didnt need to do that as I have a very good database of customers who will pay a good price for quality work, but probably not as much as what Colin charges. I would say for someone new to this business, or someone struggling to earn a decent wage, but was prepared to risk losing a lot of low paying customers, then doing the FT or whatever its now called could only be a positive move. However if you are such a person, to gain the most benefit, like Colin did, you have to go the whole hogg with it. Its no good being half hearted about it, you have top really go with it. On the other hand if you are like I was, by doing the FT and following the stratergies that you pick out, your business can only benefit, as mine did.
Dave
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Dave
Thanks for that :)
Think if i was a newbie too id have a go for it.
I also have a good base of clients that stay with me and dont hassle over the price as long as they still get the same quality from me.
Still we can never have enugh of good clients that are not just loyal to the pound :)
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has anyone else had the 5 times cash flow generator from robert saunders, is this part of the joe polish plan, some good advertising ideas innit. roll on part 2 tomorrow.
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Yep
But I thinkits the Guru Robert met on saturday