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Title: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: johns window kleen on January 16, 2009, 04:03:56 pm
I have thought for a while that old people in particular seem to object to WFP methods. Why I dont know, cos it drys spotless. I had one old lady ask me to do her fronts only from know on as her cat brings in mud from my water in the garden. Does she not let it out in the rain?
Also 2day I did 3 storey maisonettes, above 1 bed flats. So knowing it would spill down I knock and tell the 2 ladies what I am doing, as therye both looking out the window as Im setting up. One even says thats much better than ladders, much safer. So i carry on and the one who says its a good idea comes out all upset and moaning that she's just had her windows cleaned yesterday and what a bloody waste of time that was. I tell her its pure water and will dry without a trace (I hope as i dont rinse hers) I also offer to dry her windows. She declines, but clearly with the right hump showing all over her face tells me not to bother and she trusts what I say.
I speak to the bloke upstairs whoose place ive just cleans, fearing theres gonna be a fall out between these neighbours, and he just laughs and says she is loosing her marbles.
What can you do to please some people. It makes me think nothing, so sod em.
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: chrisyg on January 16, 2009, 04:08:52 pm
you cant teach old dogs new tricks..

wfp is new technology to them, they no nothing about it, and want it done the old way they have known pretty much all their lives, on a ladder with some rag.. aka, when you go its dry - smeary or not :P

I have a few oldies that seem ok with it, but thats cos they have got used to it now.. nice people and understand id rather not fall off their extension roof just to clean their windows when i can do them on the ground when a proven product that produces longer lasting cleans.

Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: p.walker on January 16, 2009, 04:54:49 pm
i do sum retirement flats, 2 storey, and there is 1 woman that pays the bill each time, and i explained the wfp to her and she was fine, then did it and she was fumin bcos of water about, most of the ground is grass under the windows so i dont see what her problem was. anyway, i have to do it on ladders now as she wont pay if i dont. i hate doing the job now as its perfect for wfp.
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: trike on January 16, 2009, 04:58:15 pm
i used to do a old lady,she was 90,i used to do out side and in with newspaper for her,the results were exelent,she wouildnt have it anyother way
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: johns window kleen on January 16, 2009, 05:00:39 pm
Never tried newspaper,and never will, but out of interest how does that work?
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: geefree on January 16, 2009, 05:01:17 pm
Monim, i would simply drop that one.

Oap's moan at everything, every blooming thing...

they think the world owes them a favour.

i like to think i was brought up with good manners, and taught to be polite...the old fashioned way, by my mother.

go into town, hold a few doors open for people behind me.... and its always always pensioners who walk straight through without a thank you....

and its the same pensioners who let the door slam in your face if you are behind them..

moaning whingers, thats not putting them down.

thats being totally honest.

Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: MJH on January 16, 2009, 05:04:09 pm
Quote from: Gazzasp8 on January 16, 2009, 05:01:17 pm
Monim, i would simply drop that one.

Oap's moan at everything, every blooming thing...

they think the world owes them a favour.

i like to think i was brought up with good manners, and taught to be polite...the old fashioned way, by my mother.

go into town, hold a few doors open for people behind me.... and its always always pensioners who walk straight through without a thank you....

and its the same pensioners who let the door slam in your face if you are behind them..

moaning whingers, thats not putting them down.

thats being totally honest.



I will second that alot of old's can be a pain in the ass!!
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: chrisyg on January 16, 2009, 05:11:35 pm
Quote from: MJH on January 16, 2009, 05:04:09 pm
Quote from: Gazzasp8 on January 16, 2009, 05:01:17 pm
Monim, i would simply drop that one.

Oap's moan at everything, every blooming thing...

they think the world owes them a favour.

i like to think i was brought up with good manners, and taught to be polite...the old fashioned way, by my mother.

go into town, hold a few doors open for people behind me.... and its always always pensioners who walk straight through without a thank you....

and its the same pensioners who let the door slam in your face if you are behind them..

moaning whingers, thats not putting them down.

thats being totally honest.



I will second that alot of old's can be a pain in the ass!!

During the war....
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: p.walker on January 16, 2009, 05:12:39 pm
haha yeh i know what you mean, i was thinking of dropping the job as soon as ive got another job 2 replace it. for now ill jus hate doing it, but do it anyway,  >:(
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: geefree on January 16, 2009, 05:43:35 pm
Quote from: MJH on January 16, 2009, 05:04:09 pm
Quote from: Gazzasp8 on January 16, 2009, 05:01:17 pm

I will second that alot of old's can be a pain in the ass!!

Did you ever get them jobs bud.
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: peter holley on January 16, 2009, 06:19:29 pm
it doesnt matter how many times u explain pure water they cant seem to grasp it, even the ones that like the results....

one phoned the other day to ask me to miss her this month as her outside tap is turned off and bound up coz of the cold weather...... she thought i used her outside tap for water supply :o

 
:D :D :D :D :D :D silly woman
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: Ian Lancaster on January 16, 2009, 06:24:45 pm
"There's nothing new under the sun"

When I first started, I was working for a company doing all the Inner London Education Authority schools.  When we swapped from leather'n'scrim to squeegees, one old schoolkeeper took one look at the 'newfangled contraptions' and declared in a very loud voice: "That won't work!  You can't clean winders wiv sticks!!"
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 16, 2009, 07:59:45 pm
It isn't just the old either - I had one woman in her forties phone me during the cold spell to say not to come because her outside tap had frozen up and split the pipe in the cold. So could I come round in a couple of weeks as it would be fixed by then.  ::)

Another guy about the same age said to me today "would you mind drying the downstairs by hand (trad.) as they dry all streaky?"

I said I'd pop back in an hour and check how they'd dried as the purpose of the system is to obviate the need for wiping and squeegeeing.

I was sweating a bit because I've been using screenwash in the mix - but as I went back he met me half way across the lawn and said "err, I'm a bit embarrassed - I've checked it out and it's on the insides... "   ;D
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: peter holley on January 16, 2009, 08:11:21 pm
screenwash :o :o does it really work? i used isopropyl last week on the coldest day (loads of it) the water still froze on houses in the shade...isopropyl normally works....
so does screenwash work?
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: elite mike on January 16, 2009, 08:13:57 pm
Quote from: p holley on January 16, 2009, 08:11:21 pm
screenwash :o :o does it really work? i used isopropyl last week on the coldest day (loads of it) the water still froze on houses in the shade...isopropyl normally works....
so does screenwash work?

yes i have used it for over 28 years :o
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: peter holley on January 16, 2009, 08:29:36 pm
on wfp?
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: elite mike on January 16, 2009, 08:30:39 pm
Quote from: p holley on January 16, 2009, 08:29:36 pm
on wfp?

no
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: trike on January 19, 2009, 12:51:42 pm
Quote from: johns window kleen on January 16, 2009, 05:00:39 pm
Never tried newspaper,and never will, but out of interest how does that work?
try it on a mirror or glass just srunch it up and rub ;D ;D
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: macmac on January 19, 2009, 02:05:14 pm
Unfortunately this thing with flats is a problem. You can't blame the downstairs for having a go at you, I would do the same, wouldn't you?

By the time your "pure water" has run down the wall & splashed on her dirty sill it ain't gonna dry nowt like clean I'm afraid!
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: tomy jackson on January 19, 2009, 03:27:27 pm
sory stan but i have to dis agre the up stares are intitald to have thers washed as i find them up stears carnt get trad giy go up to that hite , i ofer to wash the ones under for going price so if they dont like its ther prob not mine or them abuth ?????
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: [GQC] Tim on January 19, 2009, 03:40:08 pm
All my Oap's love it.

It's called training your customers people, number one rule when using wfp.
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: Klean07 on January 19, 2009, 05:41:16 pm
I had a oap custie ask me today if I was going to dry the windows off. Thing is I've been doing them wfp for about a year now and no questions asked. Her hubby even asked for a demo before employing me. Strange people about.
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: Paul Coleman on January 19, 2009, 05:53:48 pm
Quote from: macmac™ on January 19, 2009, 02:05:14 pm
Unfortunately this thing with flats is a problem. You can't blame the downstairs for having a go at you, I would do the same, wouldn't you?

By the time your "pure water" has run down the wall & splashed on her dirty sill it ain't gonna dry nowt like clean I'm afraid!

With flats, I will either do them all (preferably for a management company) or I do ground floor only.  I turn down upper flats if the people below want no service.  Even when I clean my own windows (once in a blue moon) I clean the people's window below (for free of course).
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: johns window kleen on January 19, 2009, 07:11:09 pm
This a bit of a quandry then.
The people on the top floors employed me as their old cleaner, sensibly in my opinion wont use ladders to do these flats anymore. These Flats back onto a river, witha steep bank,which no lie is about 10ft from the buildings.

The people downstairs have their own cleaner, so they aren't my custies, and I dont even wont to try and take the other guys business, so what can I do, but offer to blade their windows off for free. This is showing them both consideration and respect. If they refuse this apart from dropping my jobs, which im not gonna do, theres not much I can do to solve the problem.
Title: Re: OAP's hate WFP
Post by: macmac on January 19, 2009, 07:28:08 pm
if this is work you want to keep just give the bottoms a quick blade off or quick wfp.