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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: LWC on January 13, 2009, 06:58:01 pm

Title: Hot and what Temp?
Post by: LWC on January 13, 2009, 06:58:01 pm
I have just fitted a Morco gas boiler in van, works a treat

It is HOT, should i be worried about cracking glass, ive been old about the local Ionics guys hes crackeed about 6 with it

What temp should i be working at?
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: chrisyg on January 13, 2009, 07:00:14 pm
I have just fitted a Morco gas boiler in van, works a treat

It is HOT, should i be worried about cracking glass, ive been old about the local Ionics guys hes crackeed about 6 with it

What temp should i be working at?

Have you got insurance for it? Was it any extra to have it included?
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: LWC on January 13, 2009, 07:03:49 pm
I have just fitted a Morco gas boiler in van, works a treat

It is HOT, should i be worried about cracking glass, ive been old about the local Ionics guys hes crackeed about 6 with it

What temp should i be working at?

Have you got insurance for it? Was it any extra to have it included?

Hi Chris, was not asking about insurance if you read it properly mate
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: Clive McDonald on January 13, 2009, 07:51:01 pm
Hi Matt
tried to email you but couldn't.

With hot topics there tends to be lots of negative comments. Some of these are passed onto to custies and become urban legends.

Can i ask you not to post about this as it gets us all a bad name.

Cheers Clive
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: LWC on January 13, 2009, 07:54:31 pm
Just wondering buddy, what temp do you work with?
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: chrisyg on January 13, 2009, 07:58:56 pm
I have just fitted a Morco gas boiler in van, works a treat

It is HOT, should i be worried about cracking glass, ive been old about the local Ionics guys hes crackeed about 6 with it

What temp should i be working at?

Have you got insurance for it? Was it any extra to have it included?

Hi Chris, was not asking about insurance if you read it properly mate

No i was asking you  ::)

Sorry, I'll create a seperate thread directed to you asking shall i? whoops, again you didn't ask did you, I did  ;)
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: edd on January 13, 2009, 08:07:27 pm
25 degs max imo ok
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: windowswashed on January 13, 2009, 08:10:52 pm
Double glazed sealed units are the ones to watch out for and any old glass held tightly in with no room to expand. Had 3 units damaged. 2 shattered and one cracked. I use 60C btw
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: ftp on January 13, 2009, 08:12:01 pm
Blimey 25? thats just above room temperature - can't be far off swimming pool water - is it worth it?
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: Clive McDonald on January 13, 2009, 08:12:54 pm
I don't measure the temp. You want it on the very lowest setting you can get.


This is going to sound like i'm making it up, but you need a new technique. The flow will be much highter, you will use more water so you need to work faster. This is called advanced technique.

Put simply wash all windows like uptstairs windows. Use a longer lever on the pole and let it and the flow and the hot do the work. Rinse on.

Concentrate on what you are doing and you will fly and never have a complaint.
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: LWC on January 13, 2009, 08:13:35 pm
I have just fitted a Morco gas boiler in van, works a treat

It is HOT, should i be worried about cracking glass, ive been old about the local Ionics guys hes crackeed about 6 with it

What temp should i be working at?

Have you got insurance for it? Was it any extra to have it included?

Hi Chris, was not asking about insurance if you read it properly mate

No i was asking you  ::)

Sorry, I'll create a seperate thread directed to you asking shall i? whoops, again you didn't ask did you, I did  ;)

Apologies Chris thought you were being funny.  ;D
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: chrisyg on January 13, 2009, 08:18:43 pm
I have just fitted a Morco gas boiler in van, works a treat

It is HOT, should i be worried about cracking glass, ive been old about the local Ionics guys hes crackeed about 6 with it

What temp should i be working at?

Have you got insurance for it? Was it any extra to have it included?

Hi Chris, was not asking about insurance if you read it properly mate

No i was asking you  ::)

Sorry, I'll create a seperate thread directed to you asking shall i? whoops, again you didn't ask did you, I did  ;)

Apologies Chris thought you were being arsey.

No not originally... I honestly wanted to know..

I read from NWH that about 40 degrees C is about the max head temp, he does.. (least i think it was NWH)

Im off down the gym, i got free membership, not used it yet.. get my bum into gear for the new year
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: LWC on January 13, 2009, 08:19:31 pm
Apologies again bud, things read wrong on forums.
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: Clive McDonald on January 13, 2009, 08:23:43 pm
okay while you're in a good mood sub edit the threas title to hot and cracking.
Title: Re: Hot and cracking glass?
Post by: LWC on January 13, 2009, 08:25:01 pm
okay while you're in a good mood sub edit the threas title to hot and cracking.

Hows this?
Title: Re: Hot and what Temp?
Post by: Clive McDonald on January 13, 2009, 08:27:02 pm
Brilliant.
Thankyou.

Ask questions by all means, but don't give people an excuse to slag us off.
Title: Re: Hot and what Temp?
Post by: LWC on January 13, 2009, 08:30:07 pm
Sorry just worries me thats all.

All about being careful i suppose init.

Be nice on the caravan cleans i do sometimes, whack it up to full temp!!
Title: Re: Hot and what Temp?
Post by: NWH on January 13, 2009, 08:55:39 pm
I use it at 40 degrees and have had no problems just a couple of creakers but nothing to worry about,25 degrees is not hot water window cleaning you might aswell work with cold water.If your cracking windows with water at that temp i reckon your rubbing a hole in the glass or spending far to long on the glass.The glass will only creak-sound like it`s going to crack if it`s that really really thin glass the sort that you feel if you pushed to hard with the brush you`d smash it all other windows unless the temp is silly cold 40 is fine,i havn`t used cold since going hot.
Title: Re: Hot and what Temp?
Post by: kevin James on January 13, 2009, 10:12:33 pm
has anybody tried circulating water from the tank thru the heater? Then taking another feed from the tank to the pump. If the tank is well insulated, there shouldn't be too much loss. You should get more control of temp on the glass. Thoughts?

Kevin.
Title: Re: Hot and what Temp?
Post by: LWC on January 13, 2009, 10:23:00 pm
Well kevin, my one pump is running the heater and the hosereel whilst also circulating back into tank which will in turn heat the tank which is feeding my other seperate hosereel and pump.
Title: Re: Hot and what Temp?
Post by: NWH on January 13, 2009, 10:27:24 pm
Well kevin, my one pump is running the heater and the hosereel whilst also circulating back into tank which will in turn heat the tank which is feeding my other seperate hosereel and pump.
With a proper heater designed for window cleaning with 2 reels working from 1 heater you`ll only get about 30 degrees at the brush,circulating the water won`t give you hot water to work with it would take ages to heat unless you work with a 100ltr tank.I will be using Thermobore soon to retain more heat,although my minibore still keeps the water hot.
Title: Re: Hot and what Temp?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on January 14, 2009, 10:38:43 am
On frosty mornings I turn mine right down,. its 20 - 25 degs Celsius at the brush head depending on how much hose is out,.. lukewarm to the touch, but defo below body temp. Still much better than using cold.
Once its not frosty, I'd go 40 degrees, up to 60 degrees or so on a nice warm day. I haven't cracked a single window yet and I've been hot almost a year.