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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: shaun_pearson on March 15, 2005, 01:52:12 pm
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hi guys, im sure someone has mentioned it before but does anybody know when prochem are going to start selling ms. I am now using ms for nearly all my jobs and nick at solutions does an excellent product. The only thing i dont like is the cost. Not that solutions are more expensive than anybody else just that there is only two suppliers that i know of. Hopefully when prochem start selling it will lower the cost.
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Hi Shaun
Solution purchased in the right size is around half the price of the other suppliers
Best regards Nick
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I'm confused ??? Shaun.
Microsplitters are not expensive. Even if you use the most expensive brand out there. You're typically working at about 1:16 You are spraying down less product than with most detergent based products. You don't have to purchase a detergent rinse agent. You rarely use an acidic rinse. You don't have money wrapped up in stocks of lots of different products. Are you saying that your Microsplitters are giving you excellent results but you want to pay less money than you would for an inferior product :o What do you want from your supplier? Jam on it?
And as Nick quite rightly pointed out, his products can be almost half the price of some others :D
Even if the overall cost in use was much higher, I would still use them.
Work to a standard, not a price.
Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
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i have to agree with Ken there, i earnt a small fortune from my sample bottle,
there are not expensive, as Ken says, work to a standard not a cost
Dave
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What makes you think Prochem would be cheaper?
All their other chemicals are incredibly dear, and no better than other makes.
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Get a grip man.
It costs peanuts to clean a carpet (chemical costs).
Maybe you need to put your prices up.
Mark
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whoa
hi nick i know for sure that you are a lot cheaper than one-step and like i said an excellent product which i am happy with. Even if prochem do enter the ms market it would have to be a considerable saving for me to switch, but hey competition is good for the consumer, in this case cc's.
Ken, Mark please dont tell me im using it wrong i just dont think i could take it, look my chemical cost has jumped 100% with ms thats a big jump no matter how much your using, not that i use a lot but im still double.
an example of this is: 4x5l solutions is £72 including vat and delivery, 1:13
4x5l prochem extraction pro £32 including vat local pick up 1:10
obviously the fact that im prepared to pay double speaks for ityself and a tribute to the product that nick sells and the service provided.
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Hi Mark
Just to add to this string...
Being a cc trained by Prochem and who has a shelf of Prochem products, I also use M/S for a majority of my work.
I haven't used the Extraction Pro so have looked into it, and as I thought, you should still use a pre-spray! This will increase your costs of detergents. Whether this will make detergents more or less than detergents, I don't know.
Of course there is the issue of re-soiling as Extaction Pro is pH 8.5, not acidic.... but I guess others have voiced loud enough, other than to say I also work to a standard.
Regards
Chris
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Shaun
MS are designed to be used as a prespray then you agitate. You then rinse with water only. Prochem Extraction Pro goes in the machine's solution tank, but you still need to pre-spray most carpets to get the desired result. When using Extraction Pro do you also prespray with it at 1:10?
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em, so do any of you guys know when prochem are bringing ms out?
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There is another supplier World of Clean, last time I looked you could buy £30 worth carriage paid.
How much is Solutions carriage charge these days as I thought it was a bit high compared with others suppliers.
Did I read that Craftex stock Solutions
Are prices now on Solutions Web Site,
Can you order from Web Site
Regards
Ian
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With reference to the above I hear that Craftex will be stocking their own MS, it won't be the solutions product.
Nobby
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Just spoken to Craftex, they will be stocking their own formulation of Microsplitters at less than £12 per 5 litres.
Nobby
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Nobby,
Have you been given any to try?
Cheers,
Doug
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Just spoken to David in Craft tex,Their M/S are still a few weeks away from launch
Paul
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Doug,
I'm going to Craftex tomorrow and I'll see if I can get hold of some to try, I'll let you know.
Nobby
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Ian
Solution actually offer Free Delivery we don not hide any delivery charge in the chemical cost, you do however have to spend a reasonable amount to get free delivery, apart from the fact that the chemical is around half the price of any other comparible micro splitter.
Our webiste is currently being updated with new products being added,
Best regards Nick
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Nick,
You always say that but what is a reasonable amount?
In value.?
£50 £100.
Also what is this Allergy Control Product
Regards
Ian
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Free delivery applies on orders paid for prior to dispatch of £150net
The AllergSTOP range is a totally unique world patented product range for cleaning carpets textiles and hard surfaces utilising Micro splitting technology and includes a full allergy control element that eliminates all allergens specifically those concerned with Dust mite and the Faeces, house mould, pet dander, and pollen, the product has been extensively tested including dermatological, it is the only product in the world that actually eliminates all air allergens.
The product is used as is Solution No2 micro splitter, ( although it must be given a 10 minute dwell time, to allow the allergen additive to work), during use it cleans, disinfects, including MRSA, removes all air allergens and inhibits new soil, as recently proven during tests by Cleaning Research International for Woolsafe approval which it also gained.
The product is SAFE and is balanced to the human body so there is no requirement to leave a room or home either during or following treatment.
The range includes Carpet and upholstery (standard and WOOLsafe approved) cleaner, room spray mattress spray, surface cleaner, and dry powder granules.
Best regards Nick
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i dont see what all the fuss about delivery charges is about, i dont, and my customers, dont mind paying for good service, i allways get next day delivery,no matter what i order, and i accept that a small order, will incur a delivery charge, as c/c dont we all have a min charge??
lets face it we all go to work to make a profit ::)
Dave
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Nick
Does this product kill the bugs during cleaning or continue to work after the carpet is cleaned?
Also how much is it and whats the dilution ratios.
thanks
Mark
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Hi Mark
Both, cost depend on whether you are AllergSTOP® Authorised or not
Best regards Nick
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Nick ,
Not sure what you mean authorised.
Do you mean only certain customers can buy it.?
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Ian
I would have thought it made sense, if you are authorised yes you can buy at a lower price you can also use the registered name and logo, amongst other things The authorisation incorporates training, test equipment, website and national advertising and technical support. Those not Athorised can still purchase the product but at a higher charge, they cannot use the name or registered logo. And before you ask yes this is deliberate, only 60-70 will be licences this year. We feel the trianing and correct advertising / promotion is a very important issue as many misleading claims are made regarding products currently sold.
Best regards Nick
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Nick
I knew what you meant but setting it out in laymen’s term is helpful ;D ;D
Food for thought NCCA has had problems with miss use of their logo or trained by! This loophole needs to be covered.
Len
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like I was saying, does anybody know when prochem are going to start selling microsplitters ???
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Hi Len
I know what you mean, but I don't have a committee to process before taking action for illegal use of the name and/or the logo. Having inveted very heavily in world patent, licence and registered logo. I will protect it, and the Authorised companies. As I am sure you would expect.
Best regards Nick