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Title: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Pole 2 Pole on January 12, 2009, 04:32:33 pm
Yeh,i knew that'd grab ya attention  ;) OK i bought meters of 1 1/4 inch hose yesterday from a certain nationwide chain of stores. Anyways, to cut a long one....it was cheap cr*p which kept splittin every 2 seconds. I took it back today and they happily refunded me, no problem whatsoever. The dilemma i got is...................they credited my card but gave me the original receipt back to me. I know this is gonna cause a good v's (not so) good debate........but i now have this receipt of goods that i haven't actually bought. Would you...............put the receipt thru ya expenses....or not????????  ::)
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: East coast window cleaning Services on January 12, 2009, 04:34:23 pm
That happened to me a screwfix the otherday.

Put it this way i didnt throw away the receipt ;D
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on January 12, 2009, 04:37:25 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Oakley Windows on January 12, 2009, 04:38:20 pm
If you saw a tenner  in the street would you pick it up?  ;)


Should be able to determine those who're going to burn in hell from this thread  ;D
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Pole 2 Pole on January 12, 2009, 04:41:56 pm
Screwfix P&R? ? ? ? ? ? Really? ? ? ? Funny you should say that  ;)
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: East coast window cleaning Services on January 12, 2009, 04:50:48 pm
If you saw a tenner  in the street would you pick it up?  ;)


Should be able to determine those who're going to burn in hell from this thread  ;D

im defo going down when i snuff it ;D ;D
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Pole 2 Pole on January 12, 2009, 04:55:39 pm
Me too by the looks of it  ::) Do ya think a respected member or our parliament would dare do such a thing???? As far as victimless crime goes.........it's gotta be up there aint it?  ;D I bet some miserable sod comes along and spoils this party  8)
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: luther1 on January 12, 2009, 05:04:51 pm
The credit will come up on your bank statement.As you obviously declare all of your cash,every little helps i suppose!
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 12, 2009, 05:10:45 pm
The problem for you would be when the Tax man asks to see your bank account for the last year whilst doing a possible spot check. As soon as he sees that you have deliberately claimed for something which has been refunded then he will put you through the wringer on everything else.

Is it worth the chance that you will be done for fraud and tax evasion? Obviously from your comments you can live with doing it, but can you live with the chance that it may cause you a major headache in about a years time?
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Pole 2 Pole on January 12, 2009, 05:14:15 pm
Only if ya get inspected tho???????????? You'd have to be unlucky  ;D
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: luther1 on January 12, 2009, 05:14:24 pm
Spot on Alex. While you're on the fiddle,why don't you pay for the diesel in your mates car on your card and get him to give you the cash!!!
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Pole 2 Pole on January 12, 2009, 05:22:23 pm
Ya know what.....I respect alex for the sound fella that he is.................but come on? ? ? ? Are we all really whiter than white? ? ? I know i aint...............Years of feeling like if "they" do it.....it's an oversight......if "we" do it..............it's a crime. I aint a criminal....i aint got a bad mark against my name, but if every tom dick n harry can find themselves in need of incapacity benefit, due to summet like depression(poor lambs) i'm damn sure i'm gonna get one up on them,however small
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: East coast window cleaning Services on January 12, 2009, 05:22:55 pm
The problem for you would be when the Tax man asks to see your bank account for the last year whilst doing a possible spot check. As soon as he sees that you have deliberately claimed for something which has been refunded then he will put you through the wringer on everything else.

Is it worth the chance that you will be done for fraud and tax evasion? Obviously from your comments you can live with doing it, but can you live with the chance that it may cause you a major headache in about a years time?

im talking about 8 quid alex bloody hell mate chill out. I Pay a decent amount of tax each year. I Bet you the sort of fella if he found a tenner you would take it to the police station. ;D
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Pole 2 Pole on January 12, 2009, 05:24:36 pm
Are we singing from the same hymn sheet P&R  ;) See i knew this would cause unrest in the camp  ;D
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: East coast window cleaning Services on January 12, 2009, 05:28:03 pm
Not really i just dont like people who pretend there whiter then white. Everyone must hve done something they shouldnt off in there life time. Jesus with all the spongers illegals, and worthless that we all pay for, Surely the country wont collapse for £8.
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: luther1 on January 12, 2009, 05:33:03 pm
The point of the answer is....you can't fiddle what is on paper.The tax man is entitled to look at your bank statements.If its a big deal,just don't declare the next £8 house you clean.
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Alex Gardiner on January 12, 2009, 05:33:03 pm
Ya know what.....I respect alex for the sound fella that he is.................but come on? ? ? ? Are we all really whiter than white? ? ? I know i aint...............Years of feeling like if "they" do it.....it's an oversight......if "we" do it..............it's a crime. I aint a criminal....i aint got a bad mark against my name, but if every tom dick n harry can find themselves in need of incapacity benefit, due to summet like depression(poor lambs) i'm damn sure i'm gonna get one up on them,however small

I have never been inspected by the Tax man, but I know several that have been and even when they are 'whiter than white', which many are, it is quite a time consuming and stressful experience. When they do find something deliberate though they really go to town and will not even let you off honest mistakes. As you say it is only £8, so is it really worth the extra hassle to save about £2.30 off your tax bill?
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: East coast window cleaning Services on January 12, 2009, 05:34:41 pm
Agree to disagree otherwise this will be a never ending topic
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Helen on January 12, 2009, 05:36:01 pm
im talking about 8 quid alex bloody hell mate chill out.

So the routine tax inspection shows up a £8 error (?) which will be the starting point for a more detailed inspection of the accounts. See where this could lead?

I Pay a decent amount of tax each year.

I must remember that as my defence in court. "Well you see my Honor I already pay enough tax so I can't see what the problem is"

No body is whiter than white but Pole2Pole has now crossed the line between what could be an honest mistake and now knowingly doing a bit of dodgy book keeping. Nothing personal Pole2Pole it just as well be anyone else on here.
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Pole 2 Pole on January 12, 2009, 05:37:38 pm
Ya know what.....I respect alex for the sound fella that he is.................but come on? ? ? ? Are we all really whiter than white? ? ? I know i aint...............Years of feeling like if "they" do it.....it's an oversight......if "we" do it..............it's a crime. I aint a criminal....i aint got a bad mark against my name, but if every tom dick n harry can find themselves in need of incapacity benefit, due to summet like depression(poor lambs) i'm damn sure i'm gonna get one up on them,however small

I have never been inspected by the Tax man, but I know several that have been and even when they are 'whiter than white', which many are, it is quite a time consuming and stressful experience. When they do find something deliberate though they really go to town and will not even let you off honest mistakes. As you say it is only £8, so is it really worth the extra hassle to save about £2.30 off your tax bill?
Oh Alex......it's the thrill of the chase that's the fun bit,but as always...you're right........i'll just do a job tomorrow,cash in hand.............then no one will ever know. And i'll still be able to have a wee grin at the end of it. As was just mentioned................It'd be a bit daft to try puttin the receipt thru if it's in black and white.
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: luther1 on January 12, 2009, 05:38:40 pm
BTW,i'm under inspection for 06/07 which is my second in 10 years. Its not pleasent.Try handing in your last seven years books.They don't have to prove themselves right,you have to prove them wrong.Due a lovely accountants bill too. Basically,don't take the p*** out of them!
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: East coast window cleaning Services on January 12, 2009, 05:42:27 pm
Agreed luther i dont take the p*ss i pay a large some its just some have the balls to say it on here where others dont. Please dont assume im a tax dodger as im far from it. Infact every year the revenue always end up giving me money back which is nice
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Pole 2 Pole on January 12, 2009, 05:44:53 pm
Helen...you're right. It all started off with a returned receipt and a "thought" Since then i've been playin Devils Advocat. But it was interesting and informative to read all the replies........Must dash................Church service at 6  ;)
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: luther1 on January 12, 2009, 05:46:34 pm
I wasn't implying that anyone is a tax dodger,i'm just trying to let you know that if you get an inspection they WILL pick up any errors.As we are in cash rich job(and they know it) it would be foolish not to declare what is on a bank statement.What you declare in cash is up to you.
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: mikethechamois on January 12, 2009, 05:52:59 pm
how do you get a rebate if you havent been stopped tax at source. im not being funny i just want one too

do you get classed as a sub contractor on commercial and get stopped tax at source

and asfor the question ..............put it through and dont worry about it

how many wc in ths country declare everything
dont answer that one in case big brother is watching
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 12, 2009, 05:53:33 pm
Helen...you're right. It all started off with a returned receipt and a "thought" Since then i've been playin Devils Advocat. But it was interesting and informative to read all the replies........Must dash................Church service at 6  ;)

What! covering yourself in eggs, sugar and brandy?  ;D

Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: East coast window cleaning Services on January 12, 2009, 05:54:41 pm
how do you get a rebate if you havent been stopped tax at source. im not being funny i just want one too

do you get classed as a sub contractor on commercial and get stopped tax at source

and asfor the question ..............put it through and dont worry about it

how many wc in ths country declare everything
dont answer that one in case big brother is watching

25% of our work is sub out to us
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Pole 2 Pole on January 12, 2009, 05:56:20 pm
Helen...you're right. It all started off with a returned receipt and a "thought" Since then i've been playin Devils Advocat. But it was interesting and informative to read all the replies........Must dash................Church service at 6  ;)

What! covering yourself in eggs, sugar and brandy?  ;D


Ya know what? ? ? When i was typing that....i knew somwthing wasn't quite right  ;D I still got a bottle in the cupboard from xmas too........might have to start attacking it soon  ;) Ok i'm adding a belated "e" Cheers Malc
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Pole 2 Pole on January 12, 2009, 06:04:37 pm
anyways advocaat has got a double "a" at the end...................so i didn't even spell that right   >:(  ;D
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: scud on January 12, 2009, 07:27:06 pm
  If they come knocking to do an investigation round here, I think I will just give them my house keys and say call it quits.  :o
Title: Re: Income Tax Fiddle
Post by: Helen on January 13, 2009, 05:27:52 pm
  If they come knocking to do an investigation round here, I think I will just give them my house keys and say call it quits.  :o

Classic  ;D ;D ;D ;D